Business Rules or Form Refresh timeout - SmartView

Hi,
We have users using Smartview which get the following error: "The request timed out. Contact your admistrator ro increase netRetryCount and netRetryInterval." It appear that everytime a user execute a business rule or refresh a form, if the business rule or the form takes more than a minute to complete, the user will get the timeout error. If it is only few seconds to run, then the user will not get the timeout error.
We use Hyperion Planning 9.2.0. Is this something to do with the setting in HBRServer.properties? We have the following settings at this moment:
HBR.maxconn=20
HBR.timeout=30000
HBR.catalog=HYPSVR01
#embedded server timeout in minutes
#HBR.embedded_timeout=10
#HBR.css_refresh=30
HBR_APP_NAME=orclrddb01
PLUGIN_DATA_REFRESH_RATE=30000
====
Could anyone advise the meaning of the above entries or where can I get the information about the entries?
Do we need to use: HBR.embedded_timeout or HBR_DB_CONNECTION_TIMEOUT setting?
Thanks for your help.
Regards,
Lian

Hi John,
Thanks for the reply.
As advised by Hyperion, we add :8300 (port number)
into the smartview connection string, this appear to have solve the problem, e.g.
http://planningserver.servername.com:8300/HyperionPlanning/SmartView

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