Calendar timezones

Here's a fun one: I recently moved from the East Coast to the West Coast. I turned on "Time Zone Support" in iCal and made everything PST, where I am. But when I sync to my iPhone, it adds three hours and puts everything in EST. I can't find a way to tell the phone that it's now a Californian and no longer a New Yorker. Any suggestions?

Try reseting the iphone by holding down the power button on top and the home button at the same time until you see an apple logo.

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Hey All,
Really been scratching my head over a date issue I've observed for a while now in relation to TimeZone handling in java.
It first manifested itself as strange behaviour in my Default TimeZone "Europe/Dublin" (ie. GMT with DST)
e.g:
System.setProperty("user.timezone", "Europe/Dublin");
Date epoch=new Date(0);
System.out.println("Epoch:"+epoch);
yields:
Epoch:Thu Jan 01 01:00:00 GMT 1970
1AM (BUG???????)
If I set the TZone above to GMT it outputs correctly as
Epoch:Thu Jan 01 00:00:00 GMT 1970
As there is no offset from GMT I can only think that DST is being handled incorrectly around the epoch. (even though it is not in DST on Jan 1st)
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Which yields the following interestingly inconsistent output (BUG?????)
UTC:Fri Jan 01 00:00:00 UTC 1965 --- EU/Dub:Fri Jan 01 00:00:00 UTC 1965
UTC:Sat Jan 01 00:00:00 UTC 1966 --- EU/Dub:Sat Jan 01 00:00:00 UTC 1966
UTC:Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 UTC 1967 --- EU/Dub:Sun Jan 01 00:00:00 UTC 1967
UTC:Mon Jan 01 00:00:00 UTC 1968 --- EU/Dub:Mon Jan 01 00:00:00 UTC 1968
UTC:Wed Jan 01 00:00:00 UTC 1969 --- EU/Dub:Tue Dec 31 23:00:00 UTC 1968
UTC:Thu Jan 01 00:00:00 UTC 1970 --- EU/Dub:Wed Dec 31 23:00:00 UTC 1969
UTC:Fri Jan 01 00:00:00 UTC 1971 --- EU/Dub:Thu Dec 31 23:00:00 UTC 1970
UTC:Sat Jan 01 00:00:00 UTC 1972 --- EU/Dub:Sat Jan 01 00:00:00 UTC 1972
UTC:Mon Jan 01 00:00:00 UTC 1973 --- EU/Dub:Mon Jan 01 00:00:00 UTC 1973
UTC:Tue Jan 01 00:00:00 UTC 1974 --- EU/Dub:Tue Jan 01 00:00:00 UTC 1974
UTC:Wed Jan 01 00:00:00 UTC 1975 --- EU/Dub:Wed Jan 01 00:00:00 UTC 1975
Strange - ehh? 1969->1971 all have issues with the Jan 1st date!!!!
In fact theres issues for every day that DST is not in operation on these years... (BUG????)
I'm part of a project that will be handling data from all Timezones and as such we have chosen
to use UTC as our server time. We are now quite concerned what other bugs/strange behaviours
lurk beneath the surface of the java implementation.
Note we have tested various JDK's and they seem to be consistently inconsistent!
If anyone can confrim this bug/issue or shed any light it would be most appreciated,
G.

miniman wrote:
As there is no offset from GMT I can only think that DST is being handled incorrectly around the epoch. (even though it is not in DST on Jan 1st)Well, in the UK, DST was in effect on 1970 Jan 01. I wouldn't be surprised to find that the same applied in Ireland.

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I am having an issue with displaying the time on the calendar after the daylight saving apply to the Pacific Timezone.
I have Outlook Version 14.0.7113.5005 (32-bit) installed on the Window 7 32 bit machine.
I tried the Time Zone Daylight Saving Update Tool that Microsoft provided, but it doesn't seem like it works for me.
Anyone have an idea on how to solve this issue?
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Hi,
First please make sure your Windows and Office are both fully patched.
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Could someone tell me why my code is not returning the correct month and day? When I run the program, I got the month as 5 and the day as 3, when it's actually 6 (June) and 11 (day).
Thanks!
import java.util.*;
import java.text.*;
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It's weird I know, but this is how it goes: Months start at 0. So 0 would be January, 1 Feb, etc. Don't ask me why. The reason why you're getting 3 is because it's the third day of the week. Try changing it to this.
int day = cal.get(Calendar.DAY_OF_MONTH);And that should work. Add one to the month, that's just a terrible idea on their part in my opinion, but that's how it goes.

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Perhaps another iCloud bug here...
I travel a lot, and cross a lot of time zones. It'd be nice if my iCloud calendar could keep up with me!
What I appear to have discovered, is that even though I change the timezone on my Mac (Sys Prefs Date/Time), and change the timezone in my iCloud preferences, the iCloud Calendar will not refresh itself to show the proper days or times....doesn't refresh if I hit the refresh-calendar button, either.
In order to get the event to properly refresh, I must first double-click the event, and then close the event.... A bit of a pain if there are a couple dozen events needing changing in each timezone...
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Thoughts? Fixes?
I'm submitting feedback to Apple on this...
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Update...
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Follow Allan's advice. You might just find an "Easy Out" that will fit perfectly. Otherwise you'll have to drill it out a bit to get a grip. There is a liquid that had carborundum grit in it that I've used with success.
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Calendar & TimeZone problem

Im developping a mobile application where the mobile devices and the SAP server are in a different timezone. I have tried a couple of things to do that but nothing seems to work..
We are using:
CrEme J2ME(tm)
CrEme V3.25 (=> Personal Java 3.1)
Mobile Engine version: ME 2.1 SP 03 Patch 00 Build 200403030929
I know this is rather old, but this is only a port of an existing application so I would rather not change the setup.
In the business object we have:
public void setSddat(Calendar sddat);
This was called in the originally application like this:
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Now with different timezones i have tryed to change the timezone of the GregorianCalendar().
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Calendar calendar = new GregorianCalendar();
calendar2.setTimeZone(tz);
zitm004.setSddat(calendar);
This is not working. However following code showed me the right time:
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hi hannes,
can you try using:
Calendar.getInstance(TimeZone.getTimeZone("ECT"));
or try adding
calendar.setTimeZone(tz);
calendar.getTime(); //<<--- added line
zitm004.setSddat(calendar);
i remember there was a bug in the Calendar implementation in the early JDK1.1
which is the base of Personal Java. (something related to the setTimeZone method
that doesn't do the recalculation until the getTime method is invoked.)
not sure if it works but might worth a try.
regards
jo

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I have been tasked with building some new Citrix servers.
One of our test users is in another time zone and was using our old citrix environment.
He had a number of appointments that he had made in his calendar.
For some reason the policy I had set for taking the time zone information from the clients system did not take effect and as he was the only outside tester, he didn't tell me for nearly a week.
Now I have the policy working in Citrix, and the time zone is working for all NEW appointments - however all OLDER appointments made prior, including the ones that were set on the OLD citrix system (which was not having the time zone problem) are all
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It's alright, just before the end of my shift last night I found a "solution"
There is a tool offered by Microsoft to that will allow the user to fix settings for their outlook in relation to time zone. Once installed it has two options - 1) User is permanent moved to a new time zone, and 2) Time zone fix patch. It
was a matter of choosing the first option, selecting the incorrect timezone, selecting the correct time zone, and it completed it in no time.
Its difficult to explain, but it worked - at least it fixed his outlook calendar.
The app is called Microsoft Office Outlook Time Zone Move
64 bit -
http://www.microsoft.com/en-ca/download/details.aspx?id=16271
32 bit -
http://www.microsoft.com/en-ca/download/details.aspx?id=17291
It installs to the start menu.
As I our users connect to server via Citrix, it was necessary for me to do this on the connecting/destination server itself where the application is hosted.
You will also need to be logged in and run this AS THE AFFECTED USER, with administrative rights (right click, run as administrator). Even though it gives you an option to select a user, it didn't work right for me.
Also note, I had tracked down the GPO that was causing a bit of a flip flop with my Citrix settings in regards to time zone redirection - it was located in a GPO that was at a higher level with timezone redirection turned to disabled, I had it enabled
in the GPO governing our terminal servers, and the setting was active in Citrix Delivery Sevices Console. What resulted was the time zone flip flopping between Central Standard Time (where our servers are located) and Eastern Time (where this client was located).
This was happening for a day or two until I figured this out. Really didn't make any sense because order of operations should have had it work or not work, not bounce somewhere in between. Set the time zone redirection to not-configured
in the offending GPO, and blamo. It's been working solid for the client for the past 5 hours now and he says the issue is fixed, so I'm chalking it up to that as its really the only thing I've changed so far.

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I just solved my own issue after reading the following article http://www.google.com/support/forum/p/Google%20Mobile/thread?tid=3b08ce5d9930069 a&hl=en
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Done deal!

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