Can service broker work between SQL Server 2008 and 2012, ssbdiagnose returned an error !

Hello,
We have a setup of three applications that sends and receive messages using Service Broker.
One part is on a server, we'll call 'S' have Microsoft SQL Server 2008 (SP3) - 10.0.5512.0 (X64)
The other part, we'll call 'E' use to have Microsoft SQL Server 2008 (SP3) - 10.0.5512.0 (X64).
But I am migrating these apps to a new server, we'll call 'C' that has: Microsoft SQL Server 2012 (SP1) - 11.0.3339.0 (X64)
I have used this command line tool to test it :
ssbdiagnose -E CONFIGURATION FROM SERVICE "//E/S/CService" -S "ServerC" -d EDatabase TO SERVICE "//S/S/ECService" -S ServerS -d SDatabase ON CONTRACT //E/S/ECContact
It returned:
An internal exception occurred: Cannot read property ServiceBrokerGuid.
This property is not available on SQL Server 7.0.
So, I am wondering, is it supposed to work between these two versions ?
As more info, in the previous setup, it was using certificates but I have changed the Endpoints to use only Windows Authentication.
Thanks for any advice.
Claude

Hello,
Many thanks to you and Fanny for looking at my question.
In fact I was unclear, please let me provide you with more details.
Maybe the use of "always on" plays a role here... I will use different names so it might be clearer...
ServerSoftware2008 server has SoftwareDB database.
ServerEmployees2008 server has EmployeesDB database.
Service broker use to work fine between those two above, with certificates.
The new server comes in, two virtual servers with SQL Server 2012 Enterprise Edition with Always On.
I call it ServerEmployeesC but this is the listener. Behind, there is ServerEmployees2012_A and ServerEmployees2012_B and of course, both have a EmployeesDB database.
So, to use SSBDiagnose, I wonder if I need to use quotes around values and if I can use the listener name with FQDN. Concerning the use of instance name in the syntax, there is only one instance per server, is it best practice to use it on the command
line ?
Here is again, my command :
ssbdiagnose -E CONFIGURATION FROM SERVICE "//E/S/E" -S "ServerEmployeesC.sub.acme.com" -d EmployeesDB TO SERVICE "//S/S/E" -S "ServerSoftware2008.sub.acme.com" -d SoftwareDB ON CONTRACT //E/S/E
Again, many thanks for any help you will be able to provide, the people who configured this application at first are no longer here and I am trying to configure the new server in a task of migrating to SQL Server 2012 for one of the two servers involved
and I am having a lot of problems doing it.
Best regards,
Claude

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The equivalent article for Windows releases, is
http://support.microsoft.com/kb/894199
Or, you can check the MU catalog (which doesn't necessarily mean the update is available via WSUS, but if the update you seek in is the MU catalog, you can usually import it into your WSUS)
http://catalog.update.microsoft.com/
some updates for products are not able to be released via WSUS, for various reasons, and so in those cases, you need a different deployment solution.
Don
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