Change Vcore on Prescott MSI 865PE 6728 Neo2 is possible !!!

hello
a vcore change on the MSI 6728 Neo-2 IS possible, you just have to use the bios version 1.9 !!! but you dont have the advance of the bugs fixed in actual version.
it looks like MSI only "HIDE" the vcore settings. the tool "AMIBCP75" dosent work on the new AMI bios. does anyone have a new AMIBCP for 8 series bios ???
i hope that msi change this very very soon, cause without a vcore change for prescott this board is NO hardcore overclocking board ! very bad thing !
looks like epox also stops vcore change on prescott in new bios
(sorrys for bad english :-) )
psycho

psycho303, You might want to read this before you change your V Core
http://www.hardocp.com/article.html?art=NTg5
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I discussed the Vcore change question with the board designer over last weekend. Base on my understanding, the reason we didn't offer that when Prescott is populated was because a new Intel VID design on Prescott: "Dynamic VID" (VID becomes variable on different stages). According to the board designer, if M/B (BIOS) overwrite the Vcore, Dynamic VID will become invalid which might damage the CPU (Prescott Core) when power stage changed.
It is my understanding that bios version 1.9 does not support this VID and you could end up with a "dead" chip.
After updating my bios I can watch the Vcore throttle up and down as the load on the CPU changes . At an idle it is around 1.36 and under a load it can go as high as 1.48. If you bump up the starting point of the Vcore it could throttle up higher than the chip can handle
I am able to get 3.59 out of my chip on the stock vcore and can go much higher but I am using "Air" and have to watch the heat.
Dave

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yes, we have tried. yesterday i bought a new mobo for my friend. he has celleron 1.7, when we start the system it does nothing also the d-bracket colors are
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MSI 865PE-LS Neo2 Help and Info

Hi
I bought a MSI 865PE-LS Neo2
the motherboard is running Intel 2.8 800mhzFSB cpu
I would like to know what would be the best /fastest memory to run on this motherboard
I need to know why the bios performance setting revert to slow wont run the fast,turbo or ultra turbo settings also no sign of PAT/DOT
I would like to know the current/best bios settings to run the memory/cpu Kingston KVR400X64C25/512
Intel P4 2.8ghz 800FSB
Kingston KVR400X64C25/512 512MB 400Mhz PC3200 DDR Non ECC DIM
Albatron 4800SE
WD 120gb
Audigy2

Hi guys
thanks all for the input
still require best config for this
I have just been email bios VS A6728IMS.161 not sure if I should try it ? ?
exact setup specs please
thanks
tony
IntelP4 2.8ghz 800mhzFSB
WinXP Pro - SR-1 + updates
MSI 865PE LS Neo2 Bios Vs 1.52
2x Kingston KVR400X64C25/512
Albatron Ti 4800SE 128
WD 120gb
Thermaltake Xaser3 (blue)case
420w PSU

MSI 865PE LS Neo2 and bios A6728IMS.162

I would like some info on
MSI 865PE LS Neo2 Bios Vs A6728IMS.162 I received by email
still require best config for this bios and motherboard
to run memory for 2 x KVR400X64C25/512 memory
I have just been email bios VS A6728IMS.162 not sure if I should try it ? ?
exact setup specs please
thanks
tony
IntelP4 2.8ghz 800mhzFSB
WinXP Pro - SR-1 + updates
MSI 865PE LS Neo2 Bios Vs 1.52
2x Kingston KVR400X64C25/512
Albatron Ti 4800SE 128
WD 120gb
Thermaltake Xaser3 (blue)case
420w PSU

Hi guys
thanks all for the input
still require best config for this
I have just been email bios VS A6728IMS.161 not sure if I should try it ? ?
exact setup specs please
thanks
tony
IntelP4 2.8ghz 800mhzFSB
WinXP Pro - SR-1 + updates
MSI 865PE LS Neo2 Bios Vs 1.52
2x Kingston KVR400X64C25/512
Albatron Ti 4800SE 128
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Thermaltake Xaser3 (blue)case
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Help With 865Pe 6728 neo2-Platinum

In Bios mb the changes of timings for memory not setup manual! All my changes in manual is ignored and take from SPD of memory.
When i wanna overclock CPU, set the memory clock 333, system bus - 240 (result for memory 400), but timings is for 333 state (Cl2.5)
Timings for my mem - 333-2.5-3-3-6, 400-3-3-3-8.
In first run after overclock - is test state of SPD and MEM, and itself choose state.
After change CL2.5 to CL3 mainboard is reset overclock.
PCI/AGP-66/33, MAT is off, DOT is off.
And when i choose manual 3-3-3-8-8 for 400mem without overclock - the mem real work in 3-4-4-8-8.
Sory for my bad English ))
My config now.
Intel Pentium 4
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stepping C0
CPUID Intel(R) Pentium(R) 4 CPU 3.00GHz
CPUID 00000F33h
3374.9 MHz (исходное: 3000 MHz, overclock: 12%)
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225.0 MHz
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MSI 865PE Neo2-PS (MS-6728 v2.0) (5 PCI, 1 AGP, 4 DDR DIMM, Audio)
Intel Springdale i865PE
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DIMM4: Samsung M3 68L6423ETM-CCC 512 Мб PC3200 DDR SDRAM (3.0-3-3-8 @ 200 МГц) (2.5-3-3-7 @ 166 МГц)
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DMI BIOS V3.A
Sapphire Radeon X700
RV410 (AGP 8x 1002 / 5E4D, Rev 00)
398 МГц (исходное: 400 MHz)
250 МГц (исходное: 250 MHz)
mb 31 °C (88 °F)
CPU 43 °C (109 °F)
GPU 50 °C (122 °F)
CPU 1.36 V
+3.3 V 3.31 V
+5 V 4.92 V
+12 V 12.54 V
+5 V res. 5.20 V
VBAT 3.04 V
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Intel NetBurst
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225 МГц (QDR)
900 МГц
Dual DDR SDRAM
128 бит
Intel Hub Interface
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75 Mhz (QDR)
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--------[ SPD ]---------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------
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RAS Precharge (tRP) 4T
RAS Active Time (tRAS) 8T
Refresh Period (tREF) 7.8 us
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When your FSB is at 240Mhz, you have to set your DDR to "333mhz", so that the effective speed on your DDR is 400Mhz. You need to know that at 400MHz actual speed, achieving CL2.5 is not practical anymore. In fact your DDR is not rated CL2.5 at 400Mhz, but 400-3-3-3-8. So you can't set to CL2.5.

MSI 865PE-LS query etc

I received a later bios today not sure if I should try it
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MSI 865PE LS Neo2 Bios Vs 1.52
to make the MB run stable there are OClock settings slow,fast,turbo,ultra turbo if I try to increase any of these the pc wont start not sure why the bios has these options if they dont work
still require best config for this
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tony
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2.4c @ 3.3GHZ / 1081 FSB
KINGSTON HYPERX DDR433 CAS2
OK. i have the 865PE Neo2 LS.
After a long of reseach, i can say that this mobo rocks!!!, but u must know exactly what u r doing....
I strongly suggest to have BIOS V1.5 !! (I flashed from 1.3, in which there was no
support for Hyperthreading..)
Follow this steps exactly (if u have at least DDR433, if not reduce fsb to match your memory specs)
1. Disable Dynamic Overclocking (DOT)
2. Set DDR frequency to 333MHz to obtain the 5/4 CPU/Memory FSB ratio
3. Set DRAM timings to auto (SPD) if u dont know the correct specs. If u do disable SPD and set them.
4. Note : MAT is automaticaly disabled in 4:5 mode (You can set Performance = Slow, but even in Ultra turbo
this is the same-not actually wotking)
5. Increase the Vcore from 1.5225 to 1.600 volts (safe up to 1.8)
6. Set CPU FSB=271MHz (this runs the DDR at 433 (216.5 x 2), go lower if your DDR is less than 433)
7. Set AGP/PCI ratio fixed to 68/34. If you go higher u may have problems with
sound and VGA card.
Save and ReBoot !!!
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DOT is crap (It works if u dont overclock at BIOS and the max FSB increase at General level is 10%)
MAT is also crap compared to a CPU FSB of 271 and DDR @ 433. (MAT offers 5% max improvement in memory bandwidth)
which is nothing compared to the above FSBs.
Note3 : NB temp is invalid..ignore it
Go see for your self my benchmarking results at :
http://stefanos9.topcities.com/Downloads.html
(Download pc1 and pc2 ppt)
IF you reach to 5400 in memory bandwidth, then the bottleneck is eliminated. From 5400 and above is the same.
Check memory bandwidth benchmarks, they are above the 875PE with intel's MAT/PAT !!!!
Stef

MSI 865PE-LS O/C & best Bios settings help

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to the best perfromance
any help would be appreciated
see specs below

(jpscwf) going by all the threads it would be better to use 1.5 or 1.52b and the other bioses I have are unknown
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MSI 865PE NEO2-V showing wrong RAM timings

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I have a MSI 865PE NEO2-V motherboard with Corsair TWINX2048-3200C2 DDR-DIMM 2048MB Kit w/two matched CMX1024-3200C2 DIMMs now and try to put the timings of the RAM to 2-3-3-6 in the bios.
According to http://www.corsairmemory.com/corsair...h_results.html it should work ok...but its not.
When i check the timings with CPU-Z it shows 3-4-4-8 instead.
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I have checked so they are in Dual channel and i have put the RAM voltage to 2.75V after i tried with the default voltage, but to no avail.
To be extra certain i ran Everest Ultimate and it showed the exact timings.
The RAM run fine with StressPrime and Prime95 but i get bad results in SiSoft Sandras RAM benchmarks.
What is going on????

Hi
Yeah, it get slow results.
I have a Intel Prescott 3.2Ghz with FSB800.
I see now that the link uses Java script, its in Corsairs search engine on their site.
Their recomendations for the set of RAM i have is: TWINX2048-3200C2 / DDR-400 (XMS-3200C2) / 2-3-3-6 .
I have tried to set the timings as you said but it still runs at 3-4-4-8 whatever i set it at.
I have it running at 2-3-3-6 on another motherboard so i think it must be some settings in the BIOS that i set wrong on this one, but i cant figure it out.
Could it be that somethings wrong with the Performance Mode (MAT) settings?
I tried it on and off, I have also reseted the BIOS to default and even removed the CMOS battery for a while.
I paste all the info from the Corsair site here:
Facts about the TWINX2048-3200C2
The TWINX2048-3200C2 is a pair of 1024 MByte DDR SDRAM DIMMs designed for extreme speed are some of the fastest 1 GByte modules available. TWINX matched memory pairs are specifically designed for motherboards using chipsets with dual memory channels. This part delivers outstanding performance at high clock speeds. It has been tested extensively in a variety of motherboards commonly used in gaming rigs. This memory has been verified to operate at 200 MHz (DDR400) at aggressive latencies of 2-3-3-6. This module is also available as a single module. This module is available as a single module or a pair of dual-channel tested modules, in both black and platinum heat spreaders.
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The 865PE chipset is a great choice for users who require a complete range of support for the Pentium 4 processor, with high-bandwidth DDR memory and discrete graphics cards. Engineered to optimize Dual-Channel DDR SDRAM memory performance, the 865PE chipset features an 800-MHz system bus, support for the latest AGP8X graphics cards, and high-bandwidth DDR400/333/266 SDRAM memory technology.
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Problem with NIC and Firewire on MSI 865PE NEO2-PFISR

Hi, I have lots of trouble getting the network adapter on the MSI 865PE NEO2-PFISR to work.
The NIC's LED indicators doesnt even light up when I plug in a network cable,
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Cheers!

Quote
Originally posted by Raven
you could try and flash to an older bios
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MSI 865pe neo2 problem with IDE2 slot

My MSI 865pe neo2 motherboard isn't recognizing any devices plugged into the IDE2 slot. I originally thought it may have been the cable (I used an old cable pulled from my P3), but even with a new IDE cable nothing gets recognized. Is there some trick I'm missing, or maybe is the slot broken? Would updating the BIOS do anything? Any help appreciated.
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Thank you very much, that was it. I'm not very familiar with working with BIOS so I wouldn't have even known to look for that until you mentioned it, then I took a look in the bios section of the motherboard's manual, and saw it under the integrated peripherals section under On-Chip IDE Configuration. It was set on P-ATA + S-ATA, so I changed it to P-ATA Only and it worked like a charm.
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ATA HD for MSI 865PE Neo2-PS

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I ordered now a new HD S-ATA and find out, that I have only this 2 ports for S-ATA
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My "MSI 865PE Neo2-PFS Platinum" Is not working

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None of this has made any difference.

Since you already have reformated/made a fresh OS install, here´s some things you can try…….
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http://downloadfinder.intel.com/scripts-df/Product_Filter.asp?ProductID=816
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http://www.microsoft.com/downloads/details.aspx?FamilyId=0A9B6820-BFBB-4799-9908-D418CDEAC197&displaylang=en
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- Try another VGA card
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200 7-3-3-2.5 Ultra Turbo and 212 5-3-3-2.5 Ultra Turbo is a
no boot. Thinks ultra-turbo tries to set mem timings to
2-2-2-5 below 218FSB and my memory can't do that.
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200 2.5-3-3-7 Turbo PAT on 4.6GB/s
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212 2.5-3-3-5 Normal Pat off 4.5GB/s
Also tried 250 1:1, not prime95 stable
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[Other 865 Series] MSI 865PE Neo2-V and Dual Channel Mode Question

Hello, I have a quick question regarding dual channel mode with my current motherboard. I have an MSI 865PE Neo2-V and am wondering if it is possible to enable dual channel mode while having three RAM modules inserted in the motherboard.
For example, I currently have one 512MB PC3200 module in my computer. If I purchase another 512MB module and run them in dual channel mode, will it be possible to buy a 1GB module or another size module, and still have all three slots run in dual channel mode? Or is dual channel only operational on this motherboard if only two of the three slots are occupied?
Thanks.

Dual channel requires an even number of sticks.

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Hi. I've been building a new computer and am seeing some weird stuff.
System Specs:
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The system seems to be running (ie no post beeps) but I'm not getting any signal sent to the monitor. I've tried running it out of the case with only the video card connected to the mobo, cleared cmos via battery and jumper settings, and the same thing still happens.
Anyway, I've been talking with other guys on another forum too, but we haven't gtten it to work.
http://www.techsupportforum.com/showthread.php?t=53044
I'm going to try clearing the cmos again because apparently the battery must be out for several minutes, whereas I roughly did one minute. If the mobo has no ram connected, there should be post beeps, right? If so, I better check the case speaker connection again.
Thanks for the help.

I tried removing my RAM and powering -suprisingly no beeps . So make sure its not a faulty RAM, try another one

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