Change VPRS during billing -( order related Billing )

Hi Guru's,
There is a requirement for changing the VPRS value during Billing - ( Order Related billing ). There is a particular requirement for which this scenario is needed.   I did manage to change the value or XKOMV via a custom requirement but it is not getting reflected in the Invoice.
Can someone advice on how to achieve the same.
The following is the data i get during Analysis.
Condition type      VPRS
Message              216
Description       Condition value has been taken from preceding document
Further Analysis
"Condition types (e.g. VPRS), which have been provided with the condition category 'G', determine your condition amount either from the material evaluation segment or the amount is calculated from the condition value.
Therefore the condition value - possibly a billing document - can be determined from the goods issue or in third-party order processing of a preceding document, for example, from the vendor billing document.
Der Konditionsbetrag wurde hier aus dem übergebenen Konditionswert berechnet."
Regards
G

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