CiscoWorks LMS 4.0.1 High Memory Utilization on Windows 2K8 R2

Hi,
What causes LMS 4.1 to have high memory utilization?

I made a little batch
https://supportforums.cisco.com/docs/DOC-21031
It show what process in LMS is eating you RAM / Hogging the CPU.
I don't think resources are used very effectivly in LMS
I did have the impression that some virtual machines running LMS 3.2 actually performed better than real machines, as if the VMware saw it load all these java virtual machines and that it was 45 times the same thing only being used for a few % and therefore could be swapped to disk, leaving the resources to what was actually working in LMS.
What worries me more than the resources used is the gui per.formance.
Cheers,
Michel

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