Citrix engineer report PB app memory issue using XenApp 6.5 and PB 12.5.1

I opened an Incident with SAP as this could be a big issue for our PB 12.5.1 application recently migrated from PB 9.02 deployment. We are in the process of piloting our PB 12.5.1 application. We are using Pcode for a rather large application. Each end user makes a connection to Oracle 10g using the o10 DLL. The PB 9.02 version of the application, which the bulk of our users are still using, is running on an older version of the Citrix software. Our new pilot version is running under Citrix XenApp 6.5, Windows 7 and PB 12.5.1. I noticed another thread in this discussion group in which another PB user noticed a similar issue running a PB 12.5.1 Pcode application running under Windows 7. One of our Citrix Engineers just relayed the following observation to us.
"I have been watching the new NIS servers, and it would appear that the 12.5 version is using 2-3x more memory than the 9 version.
I would expect it to be the opposite. Where this is going to be challenging is, that it will take us from 13 servers to an estimated 40+.
If you are working with vendors, or other technical resources, maybe they have some recommendations.
I have taken our data to the VM team, and they are seeing similar on their side. So it doesnt look like its anything other than the
behavior of the application. A lot of page faults, and memory writes which is common for powerbuilder...almost uses no CPU, but memory.
I have seen 90-105 users on the old systems (prior version of Citrix server and PB 9.02 Pcode). With 25 users on the new (XenApp 6.5 - PB 12.5.1) server, we are at 90% memory use. I thought it was something not configured optimally on the hardware side, but after checking with VM team, it would appear that its just the behavior of the application. There is a significant difference in memory usage."

What kind of database were you connecting to with your PB 10 application running under Citrix?
Oracle. Most likely 10g at the time.
Did you get to compare it with a prior PB version?
Actually, it was likely 9 when we first deployed it. It's been 10 years since they did that deploy and 10 hadn't been released yet. They upgraded to 10 some time later when I did some work for them again.

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FROM [ultiprosqlprod1].[ultipro_crum].dbo.EmpComp WITH (NOLOCK)
join [ultiprosqlprod1].[ultipro_crum].dbo.EmpPers with (NoLock)
on eeceeid = eepeeid)eec2
ON eec.eecSupervisorID = eec2.eecEEID
left outer join #tmp_Contacts con
on eep.eepEEID = con.ConEEID
order by [Client ID],
[Last Name],
[First Name]
drop table #tmp_Contacts
END
Timothy E Caldwell

Memory leak using GWT 1.4 and JDK 1.5

We are running the following:
OS : Solaris 5.10
WebLogic version: 10.0
JDK : Java(TM) 2 Runtime Environment, Standard Edition (build 1.5.0_14-b03)
Java HotSpot(TM) Server VM (build 1.5.0_14-b03, mixed mode)
GWT : 1.4
Oracle : 10g
We have found memory leak with the above configuration.
After running 1 session we are facing memory leak. The used Java heap is 4% higher than the one used after we conduct
our memory tests for 1 user.
Similarly, after running 5 concurrent sessions we are also facing memory leak where Java heap memory is utilised more
by about 4%.
I have used JRockit JDK 1.5 for figuring out memory leak. I have not found a memory leak in any of the modules
developed by us.
The memory leak issue is we think concerned with the version of JDK, Weblogic, Sun OS.
Can somebody please suggest whether we can use the version as mentioned above?
Any help on this front will be appreciated.

gc log:
#log information
JAVA_OPTS="$JAVA_OPTS -verbose:gc "
JAVA_OPTS="$JAVA_OPTS -XX:+PrintGCDetails "
JAVA_OPTS="$JAVA_OPTS -XX:+PrintGCTimeStamps "
JAVA_OPTS="$JAVA_OPTS -XX:+DisableExplicitGC "
JAVA_OPTS="$JAVA_OPTS -Xloggc:/path/to/gclog`date +%Y.%m.%d-%H:%M:%S`.log "Check sun papers for garbage collecting tips.
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Is there any other way we can detect memory leak?
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You have to profile your Application Server like you did with your own code.
regards
slowfly

Is anybody else getting external MIDI clock tempo issues using Logic Pro 9 and OSX Lion 10.7.5?

I am having really serious tempo issues when sending midi clock to any external device - The tempo wavers and alternates around 5 bpm above and below the tempo set, and to be frank is totally unuasable when trying to clock arps from hardware synths.
I have the problem both with Logic and Ableton LE, as well as through both my MOTU Ultralite and Focusrite Liquid Sapphire 56 interfaces. I am therefore presuming this is a MIDI issue with the actual computer (MacBook pro, bought new last september).
I moved to Mac from PC, so I'm not totally up to scratch with the Mac architecture yet - can anybody shed any light on why this is happening? It's driving me mad!

Pancenter,
Yes.. I do see the occasional minor variations much like yourself when I sync up to my Oasys or more usually the Motif... to a fair sized and complicated project,,. Maybe +/- 1.. or on rare occasions +/- 2 bpm... but nothing close to the OP's +/- 5 bpm experiences...
It actually got better for me when I installed 10.8.x... along with the newest Motu drivers.. and in fact I can't remember the last time I had any unworkable issues with syncing though admittedly I haven't done that much syncing recently.
I do have a project coming up in the next 10 days.. that will require me to use the Oasys synced to Logic so I'll make a note of any issues i have and post back if any occur.
As an aside, I have recently been doing a lot of work with iPad Instruments and Arp Apps and Logic... and the sync as been rock solid over USB...

What is the max memory Firefox uses to display pages and how to increase it ?

Hello everyone,
I am using the latest build of Firefox x86 on Windows 8.1 and I want to know what is the maximum memory that firefox uses to display web pages ie. What is the maximum size that a page can be ??
Also how do I increase that limit ?? is there anything in the about:config of Firefox to that ?

I haven't tested this, or researched in the source code, but if you do not need the file to be parsed as HTML in the browser, and instead you have Firefox treat it as a download, I imagine that would work around the limitation you've encountered.

What's a good voice recording app I can use on my laptop and interface with iTunes?

Does anyone have a great recommendation for making home-made voice recordings that I can post on social media using iTunes? Is there a particular app/recorder that makes it sound more professional than a home-made job?
Thanks.

You can't plug a microphone directly into a Mac: you have to go through a mixer or a preamplifier to bring the voltage level up to the Mac's input level. Of course this doesn't apply to USB microphones, which can be plugged into a USB socket and will usually work straight off. The Mac's own microphone may be reasonable sounding - you can try and see what it sounds like - but obviously you musn't touch the Mac while recording and you will get better results with a decent external mic. (USB would probably be best, but they're not cheap.)

What Apps can i use to download music and then listen to it without wifi later?

I want to download music with an app using wifi and then once i have it then i want to listen to it without wifi on my ipod touch.
is there an app like that (preferably a free app that works)?
Thanks

I have tried that before, for some reason it dosent work for me. How about some paying ones? Someone told me about Foxtube, is it worth it?

What apps can I use to both write and illustrate my book.

I am hoping to learn what apps can help me both write and illustrate my book.

I have tried that before, for some reason it dosent work for me. How about some paying ones? Someone told me about Foxtube, is it worth it?

Question for those with memory issues on k8n neo plat

I have been having issues with my memory on the k8n neo platinum board since i built the system last month and i just recently discovered a fact I had overlooked.
I Have discovered that if i test the system while it is cool (having sat turned off overnight for example), then memtest will pass the ram just fine and the system will be stable for a short period of time, generally longer if no intensive applications are used, ie. doom3 vs. websurfing).
This system, once it heats up ( seems mostly to be the nvidia 3 nb that needs to be "hot"- that is, a probe placed in contact with the module reaches about 58+ degrees c) then the system becomes unstable and memtest, if used, fails.
Prime95, if used on it when its cool, will usually take about an hour or so to fail, but if its used on the system when its been running a bit ( temps from nb at 58c+ and memory module hot to the touch) then it fails after about 20-30 seconds.
I have placed an active hs on the nb in an attempt to correct this, but temps still remain high with failures occuring.
I have spent the better part of three days testing the sytem this way and the above facts have held true in all these tests.
I have tested at stock ratings ( not using "auto" in bios, but using "approved ratings" of 10 x 200 for fsb and timings of 2-3-3-7 for my ram at 1:1 (which is recommended as well) since i am testing for base stability at this point;Voltages have been left at auto settings, however.
I was wondering if anyone else with memory issues could try this out and post if this seems to be the case for you as well.
Perhaps the memory issues on these boards are directly related to a problem with the nvidia 3 chipset running too hot?
Does anyone have a memory issue with these boards who is using water cooling on the NB ?
Lack of issues from people using 'problem" memory, but having no failures with water cooled nb's would support my assumption.

Yes i did mean chipset.
I am using a stock hs/fan from amd, which seems to run a tad hot but, considering that I wont overclock until I can get board stable, its not an issue. (runs 35-40 idle and up to 72 intensive). I need the warranty more then the extra mhz at present.
I removed the stock heatsink from the nvidia chipset and bought a generic chipset cooler (green, very little in the way of fins and seems to be aluminum) with a small fan.
I used a generic silver paste from Compusa to adhere both the cpu hs and the chipset.
I didnt lap either hs, just installed each as per instructions on artic silvers website (figured it had to go on the same way even generic).
I also bought a kingwin thermal center which i ran probes from to the cpu, case, and nb chipset.
I am not using it to adjust fans so those arent connected - its just a reference temp I can see at a glance, esp considering the funky bios reading this boards been known to give.
I assume from these responces that even a nvidia 3 250 chipset shouldnt get as hot as mine?
I asked about that from the retailer i bought this from but he seemed to think it was "ok" at 50ish celcius, but then again he didnt look too confident when he said it, lol.
Idle right now reads on Corecenter at 28 celcius for cpu and 33 celcius for the chipset, although, I have readings of 37 c and 43 c from the kingwin thermal center, which i believe to be more accurate.
My voltage reads at 11.67 for the 12v line at idle right now.
The psu i got is stick from the xblade case i bought in store. (http://www.xoxide.com/xblade2.html)
I have a dvd burner, cd drive, and two maxtor ide hd's attached to the system;The only card is the agp.
Is there a way to check and see if the cpu ispower starved? software monitor or even an external probe perhaps?
I havent put a probe on it, but the ram came in its own heatspreader, which gets very hot to the touch as well.
What temps should I be looking for on these items?

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