Collaborative Editing

I want to ask you all if Premiere Pro allows Collaborative Editing. If yes, how does it work on Premiere Pro? Specifically, I have two questions:
- Is it possible to share files on a Central Storage along with several users? It means, an user is editing a project that contains the same files of another user project.
- While an user is editing a project, is it possible to copy and/or see the project content by another user? Even if this project is locked, which is our desire, could another editor copy and/or see its content?

Hi there,
On a basic level, this should work. Editors running Premiere Pro on separate systems can import the same shared media from the network, even across Mac and Win. When the media is imported in Premiere Pro, the first editor to import the clip has write access to that clip, so they wouldn't be restricted from changing the clip, such as overwriting it, changing the timecode, metadata, etc. However, any editor that imports the clip while it has already in use on another system will not have write access, only read access.
In the Preferences > Media, there is an option to "Save Media Cache files next to originals when possible". For best performance, this option is better left off, so that conformed audio will be generated on the editor's system. However, if you want to avoid audio conforming on each system, and just want to do it once, and you don't mind the performance hit, you may try turning that option on.
In my limited testing, it seems that CS4 (4.2.1), on Win only, has a problem with saving projects to network attached storage - Save As works the first time, but thereafter both Save and Save As seem to fail with a file permissions error. In CS5, this is not a problem. The other issue is that Premiere Pro doesn't restrict write access for the project when it is open, so if the project is opened on two systems, there can be contention. If an editor wanted to peek at the current state of the project being edited by another editor, it would be safer to import the project into another one, so that there is no danger of modifying it.
There are a few collaborative editing products out there that advertise support for Premiere Pro:
http://www.studionetworksolutions.com/
http://www.editshare.com
http://www.studionetworksolutions.com
Not sure if anyone in the forums has ever tried these with Premiere Pro, and has some experiences to share...?
Hope this helps,
Zac

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*******Enhancement / FMR*********
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Link Master Clips to media on drives, not to sequences.
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