Color correction with .mts files

Hi,I´m editing .mts files in premiere pro, but I want to do the color correction in a diferent program, but since must of the programs don´t support mts files, what would you recomend? after that, I want to get back to premiere to finish my worflow, but I don´t wan´t any compression, any advice? I would love to correct in Da Vinci..

YOu want to color grade this in DaVinci...which doesn't support .mts...but you don't want to recompress the footage into something that DaVinci will work with? You don't want ANY compression? Not possible...if you want to go to DaVinci. You will need to compress to something it recognizes, and then guess what? You will compress again when you render out of DaVinci...but if you send ProRes or DNxHD the recompress won't really have any degredation.
or use Speedgrade...

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1. Is using the curves to color correct more accurate than using levels?
2. It has me enter for shadows: r=20, g=20, b=20 highlights:r=240, g=240, b=240 and midtones: r=128, g=128. b=128 and to save them as defaults. What are these values based on? Are these values good to use for all digital images?
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Tell us about your computer hardware. Be especially certain to tell us about third-party I/O hardware (e.g., AJA, Matrox, Blackmagic, MOTU).
None.
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