Color shifting of a complex object

I have a bitmap image of a flower that I would like to fade
from one base color to another (i.e. red, orange, yellow, white,
pink, etc). The image is moderately complex with two or three dozen
shades in the image. Is there an easy way to do this?
I feel like I should know the answer...maybe staring at the
screen the last 18 hours has rotted my brain...

This kind of thing can be a little tricky. But I have a
solution for you, you will need to determine your pallet colors and
put them in the array, in the object format as indicated. And
because it's a prototype construction, you call call the method
anywhere, on any mc instance.
Try this:

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How do I prevent the Darker Shade Box (color shift) around Vector Objects when Printing

Sorry in advance for the novelette. I am absolutely mystified and frustrated and would love some help! I've been working on this problem for about 30 hours over the last 4 days to figure out what the heck is happening and cannot find an answer through various forms of research.
Basically, when I print a JPEG, I am getting this area (a box) of darker shaded coloring around my heart and love text. I've tested it a million different ways and am at a loss as to what the problem is ... is it an application problem, a color profile problem between my applications and printer, an improper way that I saved my file, etc.
Here is a photo I took of the image printed out (so it is slightly skewed from camera distortion):
The details:
(1) I create graphic art and sell it online. I save all of my printable art as JPEG files because of my customer base (diy hobbyists that print on their home printers without much knowledge base nor graphic design software).
(2) I use both Adobe Illustrator (AI) and Photoshop Elements 11 (PSE11) to design and save my artwork.
(3) I insert JPEG images into Microsoft Word 2003 documents to "test print" since most of my customers use home printers to print. Since most people have this basic software, it is a good gauge of the kind of print out they might get using the same or similar software.
(4) My PSE11 color profile setting is the default sRGB. I have test printed many times and I get the truest colors with this color profile.
(5) My AI color settings are normally also an sRGB color mode, but on occasion, I use a CMYK color mode if I am creating a larger document that I know the customer will need to take to a professional printer to print out.
(6) I do my home printing (for proofs) on an Epson Stylus Photo 1400 (which has the 6 color ink cartridges).
(7) Until this printing problem occurred on this test print out, I always used the "photo enhance" option when I designate settings for my printer via the Microsoft Word documents.
IMPORTANT: This is when I have the color shift?? or color rendering issues?? and it is the only time. If I use the regular ICM/ICC color profile of sRGB, the printing issue doesn't occur. Instead, I have a solid color background instead of this one with the strips of lighter color on the top and bottom. However, I can't control how the customer prints, so I need to feel confident that whatever color profile setting they use, they will not run into this problem. I even test printed the documents over at FedEx and the darker box/color shift did not occur.
(8) The document in question only has 3 sets of objects: the heart, the solid colored rectangle colored background and the text. All 3 objects are vectors, they are at 100% opacity and there are no "special effects" applied.
(9) The image was entirely created in AI this time and exported as a maximum quality JPEG file, although you will see below that I tried many ways to create and save the file so that I didn't have the color band borders on top/bottom.
(10) I regularly use AI for part of my art, then I drag it to my PSE11 open document and it becomes a Vector Object (it cannot by copying/pasting into a PSE11 document). I also regularly export AI images as PNG files, then insert them into an open PSE11 document. This printing issue has not occurred until recently. Here is an example of a very complex AI image I created, then inserted into PSE11 just to add the background (the Teddy Bear and books are AI vector objects) that were exported as PNG files then inserted into PSE11 to integrate with the background image - I test printed with Photo Enhance and had no printing issues:
So, from the research I have done, it looks like it is a color rendering or color space issue with conflicting color profiles in the same document. I checked my color profile settings and both sRGB and CMYK were set to embed ICC color profiles.
I tried changing AI settings to Preserve Numbers (ignore linked profiles) for CMYK, but that didn't work.
I also checked and made sure that not only the document setup showed the sRGB color profile, but that all the objects within the document also were converted to sRGB as well for consistency. That didn't work.
I tried converting the document to CMYK along with the vector objects. That didn't work.
I tried saving the heart image as a PNG file alone, the "love" text as a PNG file alone, both the heart and text together as a PNG files alone. Once saved as PNG files, I inserted them into an open empty PSE11 document - as I normally do. I then added the background color I wanted. That didn't work - the print still showed the color changes.
I tried dragging each vector object separately and even as a group and got the same color change issue when printing.
I tried "expanding" and "outlining" the text before exporting as JPEG, before exporting as a PNG and before dragging as a vector object into PSE11. Expanding the text did not help the situation.
I tried exporting as Adobe PDF, then opening in PSE11, then resaving as JPEG. That didn't work.
I tried flattening transparency (even though there is no transparency in the AI file). That didn't work.
I tried rasterizing the image. That didn't work.
Thinking that the file might be corrupt, I started from scratch and redesigned the same heart and love text. Unfortunately, I had the same problem as before. At this point, my AI started becoming buggy and would not open new files. It happened repeatedly and I decided it was best to uninstall and reinstall AI (and maybe that would fix the problem).
I created just the heart in AI, then inserted it into an open PSE11 document (both after exporting as PNG and also by dragging as Vector Object from AI). It seemed to work. I could both drag the vector into PSE11 from AI and export from AI as a PNG, then insert into open PSE11 document with a background color - and it printed a solid background.
So, I thought that reinstalling and setting back to defaults worked. But, then I added the love text around the heart and tried exporting as JPEG files and the same problem continued to recur. Whether I dragged as a Vector object into PSE11 (the heart object and love text separately and also another time with the vector objects dragged as a group) or saved them as PNG files and inserted into PSE11 - I got the different shades of color on what should be a solid background. I even tried saving the PSE11 as a PSD file first, then resaving as JPEG and I tried saving as PNG and printing and this didn't help solve the problem.
I really think it is some color conflict issue but I can't figure it out. I am definitely not very knowledgeable about color profiles and how to sync all my devices, however, as I mentioned, this was not an issue until recently (and I think??? I recall changing the CMYK setting from Preserve Numbers to embed color profile a month or so ago - however, it should have been solved when AI went back to its defaults upon reinstall).
The reason I believe it is a color rendering/color space issue is because I could see the color output when I saved the JPEG with CMYK color profile versus sRGB color profile and the sRGB colors were much richer, not surprisingly. The top and bottom colors matched the sRGB printout and the middle darker box section matched the CMYK printout.
I am sure it is something fundamental or simple and I am completely overlooking it. I wish it were just a transparency issue, because people know how to fix or do workarounds for it. But, there are no vector objects with any transparency ...
If I missed some detail, I apologize. Any help would be a dream come true at this point! lol
Thank you!

Okay, I got motivated to try again. From doing a bit more research on troubleshooting AI printing problems, the Adobe article talks about print drivers. It was advised to uninstall and reinstall the print driver if the printing issue persists. So, I did. Unfortunately, I still had the same result after reinstalling and trying a test print! Ugh.
So, as Jacob said upfront, I seem to have an overactive print driver that is trying too hard (and it is a non-postscript printer which I realize is part of the problem).
There are so many variables in my situation as to how I create art and save/export art. I sometimes work solely in AI, sometimes solely in PSE and sometimes I use both programs to create. Consequently, I will:
(1) export directly from AI as JPEG if I am not adding PSE11 artwork.
(2) export directly from AI as PNG if I plan on inserting that image into PSE11 to add to artwork I have created in PSE11.
(3) drag vector objects as a Smart Objects directly from AI to PSE11 to add to artwork I am creating in PSE11 if I know I will playing with the vector object and resizing in PSE11.
So, I did a test print using scenario 2, where I inserted the heart and love text PNG (AI created vector object) into an old PSE11 document. This old document already had a vector object from AI with a solid background and I knew it printed correctly. So, after inserting this new PNG from AI into this old document, it printed correctly using the photo enhance mode.
However, I haven't had a chance to actually create new art in the older AI files (that I know print properly), resave as something else and try another test print (either by exporting as JPEG and printing in Word or by exporting as PNG file and inserting into PSE11 document, then saving as JPEG and printing in Word).
After testing the different possibilities of ICM settings within my printer, I found that the JPEG images printed out with the truest colors and best quality if I simply selected "no color management" from the printer. Shocker, huh? lol
MY SOLUTION: So, what I think I will simply do is add an instruction sheet with the printables I sell, explaining that the color profile setting should never be handled by the printer so make sure to turn off color management by printer (and if they feel they must use the printer for color management, make sure the setting is sRGB since I embed that color profile in my JPEG's).
Edited to add: Since my issue was never about how I could print a successful image (I knew I could simply change the color profile settings), but rather about how to make sure that customers would get consistent and high quality print outputs of my digital images, this seems like the best approach.
I don't think I will every really know exactly why I am now getting color shifts in the "photo enhance" mode when I did not have this problem a couple months ago - applying the same methods of creating artwork. I was concerned that I was saving/exporting using incorrect or mismatched color settings or something of that nature. However, since I went through the process of making my color spaces the same for everything, and I still have issue, clearly that is not the culprit. The only thing I can do to solve the problem and it is a straightforward solution anyway -> is to educate the buyer on how to print successfully (don't use photo enhance! ha ha).
Thanks again to everyone who chimed in and offered advice!

Illustrator CS4 hex color shifts again

In cs4 Illustrator on mac
Color settings:North Amer/Internet
Document Color Mode: RGB
Proof Setup: Monitor RGB
Proof Colors: Checked
When I make a web safe colour in my color picker (example #0088CE) the number is fine when measured with the Digital Color meter. But once it is placed in the swatches pallette or on an object on the desktop the color shifts and consequently passed onto "save to web". Photoshop CS4 seems to be fine still though... What's up???

Our small group just figured this out. Maybe because of the upgrade things get reset, I don't know for sure... but under EDIT>Assign Profile... my setting was for "Don't color manage tihs doc...". I didn't know this was here before and I dont understand why it wouldn't automatically change when choosing my "Color Settings" to 2.1 (or Internet/Web N. Amer). Soooooo, when you change it to 2.1 HERE TOO the proof colors check/uncheck works resulting the hex on screen to match the save for web output. Anyone in Adobe have a suggestion or instruction where this can all be changed in one place so it stays this way for us web peeps on all our documents? Sick of checking these settings yo.

Camera profiles and Highlight Recovery: color shifts

I often see significant hue shifts and loss of saturation when using the Recovery slider in conjunction with the new dng camera profiles. I don't remember to ever have this 'problem' with legacy ACR profiles. In the sample below, you can see just that:
Sample: http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3224/2918603614_7a562db832_o.png
This becomes a bit of a problem, as recovering highlights now brings color shifts as a side-effect and you have to go fiddling with color controls.
Often, the new, 'shifted' colors are even more pleasing than the 'unshifted' (i.e. recovery set to zero), but this is a psychological and a workflow problem too. It is just not nice to know that controls are interdependent and have side-effects.
Is it a bug or a fact of life? What's so different about the old a new profiles, that cause this difference in recovery effect?
The DNG to play: http://www.yousendit.com/download/bVlBblFOR0Y3N0JFQlE9PQ

Eric, thanks a lot for the explanation and technical details.
Knowing this helps me a bit, as it confirms my observations. What is not clear, is how these shifts will/should (or would they?) be addressed?
I mean Recovery was a perfect control until now. it just did what is should, reliably and consistently. Now we have the side-effect of color shifts.
a) Will Adobe adjust the algorithm to fit the new profile system? A bad thing, because it will not assure backward compatibility.
b) Will Adobe add a new control? Worse, because it adds unnecessary complexity.
c) Will/could the profiles be modified in a way as these color shift don't happen. As I understand from your previous post, this doesn't seem possible.
d) Will it just be left as is and I'll have to live with the color shifts? Now it seems it's the most likely option. Sad, because Recovery used to be so powerful, and now its power is somewhat compromised.

Color shift on re-import from PS (13.0.1) to LR (4.2), Windows.

Hi!
I've got strange subtle color shift from reds to yellows when I'm doing the following:
1) import my raw files as DNG into LR
2) edit them in LR
3) ctrl-E them to edit in PS
4) edit them in PS (just drawing a dot with the brush tool somewhere, so the file could be saved and re-imported to LR)
5) save (not "save as") them in PS which bring them back as tifs to LR
This final tif from PS has some color shift in comparison to the original DNG file. Nothing is edited in PS.
Furthermore:
- if I'll open to edit the resulted tif with the color shift in PS once again with the option to use LR adjustments, I'm getting color shift in PS
- if I'll open to edit the resulted tif with the color shift in PS once again with the option to open the original tif without LR adjustments, I'm getting correct color in PS, as in my original DNG
LR - ProPhotoRGB
PS - ProPhotoRGB
Thanks for any help and suggestions!

I can't explain why your results are slightly different than mine, but I think I know what is happening. The DNG you posted is very heavily clipped with RawDigger showing about 4Mpixels at 100% RGB. You can download RawDigger to see for yourself:
http://www.rawdigger.com/
I noticed you didn't apply any Basic panel settings, which is probably why there is such a large difference between the DNG and rendered TIFF images. LR4 PV2012 uses "image adaptive controls with fairly complex algorithms that interact from top-down:
Exposure>Contrast>Highlights>Shadows>Whites>Blacks
In other words the Exposure setting affects how all of the other controls beneath it will function. I agree that it shouldn't matter and that the rendered TIFF should match the raw file, but it looks like the PV2012 rendering engine fails with very heavily clipped images (i.e. large areas of 100% RGB in the raw file) and ‘0’ Exposure setting.
You can correct this by trying not to overexpose the image during the shoot. For the lighting in this DNG image a -.5EV to -1.0EV exposure bracket would get you closer to a full dynamic range image. You can always clip the highlights inside LR, so there's no need to heavily clip the original shot (especially with studio lighting).
For the model images you have now I would set LR's Exposure to -.5EV to -1.0EV (i.e. to adjust midtone exposure) and then adjust the other Basic panel setting in a top-down manner. Usually setting -Highlights = +Shadows works best for most images. Next adjust Whites to set your white clipping point (hold down Alt key) and Blacks for the black clipping point. Next tweak Exposure if the midtones are too dark or light and then lastly adjust contrast, which I use sparingly (i.e. ±25).
Here are the Basic Panel settings I used:
Exposure -0.50, Contrast 0, Highlights -50, Shadows +50, Whites 25, Blacks -45
I also adjusted Clarity to -25 to retain the high-key look.
With the above settings the DNG and Edit in PS TIFF histograms look identical on my system. The key is to adjust Exposure to set the midtones, which helps the PV2012 rendering algorithms to work properly. Please let me know if this works the same on your system.

Color shift when filling with pattern

Hello!
I use the 'define pattern' and 'fill with pattern' feature in photoshop all the time to prepare graphics for print / production in my business. However, I have noticed a small but problematic color shift going from the main image (defined pattern) to the page (filled with pattern). You can see it in the image included here. The main image is vibrant, and lighter and the page behind it is dull and darker. It will print this way too. The main image prints great, and gets approved. But the page layout doesn't match. Both documents are set to sRGB color space when I check the Edit -> Color Settings option. Any ideas how to correct this? Thanks!!

Hello, in your screenshot, the first tab in the background has no profile that's what (#) means in the title of the tab, untitled one and two have the same profile as the working space (which tab is visible?), while the one in the foreground as a different profile than the working space that's what (*) means in the title bar.
So, that tells me they do not have the same profile.
Also, is there noise or very small textures in the circles? You might want to look at them all with the same magnification.
Finally, a smart object can be of a different color space than the document that holds it.

Color shift appears as square behind circle shapes when printing

When I place a a circle with text within on top of a picture, there is a color shift in the shape of a square behind. anyone experienced this before?

Looks like the issue in the CM thread.
I'm trying to replicate the issue but haven't done it yet. Still grasping at straws
1. Did the ID doc ever undergo Convert to Profile?
2. In Swatch Panel do "Add unnamed colors". Make sure the grayscale is colored with swatches, not colors created in the Color Picker
3. Do the color values in the swatches have crazy decimal values? Is the color mode of the swatches CMYK?
4. What format are the grayscale links - TIFF or PSD?
5. Make certain they are links, not embedded (I'm sure they are links though)
6. The colorization - are there tints applied to the object colors, or are they 100%?

Color Shifts when adding/removing transparency

I may have used the wrong search terms, so my apologies if this question exists somewhere else
Using Indd CS2: Assuming that "Overprint Preview" is off I notice a color shift on a layout when transparency is introduced or removed.
For example: a transparent object or placed image, is either added or taken away from a document that is inherently flat or non-transparent.
Note: It doesn't matter if the transparent object is affecting any other object on the page. For instance, I could have a polygon square set to multiply somewhere off the artboard. But as soon as I remove that polygon the color of the document shifts slightly. I can prevent this color shift from happening if I move the "Transparency Slider" to "Off" in Preferences>Display Performance. Or use "Fast" for the "Adjust View Settings".
So I guess I know what causes the shift to take place (+ or - transparency), but I can't explain what is causing the slight color shift. Can anybody help explain this in more detail?
I do appreciate it.
-Jeff

Turning on Overprint Preview gives you the most accurate view of how objects on the page will print. It's the preferred way to view the page (though it's normally off to speed up page display).
What happens when Overprint Preview is turned on when you add the transparent object. (Of course, when you print or create a PDF that needs to be flattened, all objects on the page need to be converted to the same color space (selected in Edit > Transparency Blend Spaceeither RGB or CMYK.

Issue: color assigning, eyedropper, groups, type object and stuff

Hi there!
I have some wierd problems with my beloved illustrator. Eyedropper and swatches assigning seems to be wild... I will try to describe three situations: what is happening. Tell me please, what am I doing wrong...
1. Group of shapes in one fill color, black for example.
- I have group of black shapes, complex logo perhaps. They are literally grouped.
- I want to change their fill color to white.
- I select the grup with black arrow and choose white from swatches.
- Nothing happens.
- I have to ungroup shapes, then select them with black arrow and then I can change the color.
2. Group of shapes in several fill colors: black, yellow and white for example.
- I have several grouped shapes in different colors.
- I want to change all of their fill colors to white.
- I select the grup with black arrow.
- Illustrator should show "?" in the Fill/Stroke part of the tools panel, becouse there are selected shapes with different colors. But instead I see completely different set of fill and stroke color. Probably ones I've used in some before action.
- But OK, fine. I try to assign one color to all of my shapes anyway. But gues what?
- Nothing happens.
- I have to ungroup shapes, then select them with black arrow and then I see my "?" and then I can change the color.
3. Text object, plain text, paragraph, grup of text layers - all the same.
- I have some black text.
- I want to change their fill color to white.
- I select the text object with black arrow and choose white from swatches.
- Nothing happens.
- I have to use text tool to highlight my text and then I can change the color.
In all those cases I use swatches or eyedropper to take color from another shape - result s the same. This is crazy... Don't know what to do. And the worst thing is I have same problems at work, where I use Mac, and at home, where I use Windows.
Please help!

I'm confused. Where do you see two copies of my text?
http://drrop.it/files/5277fe05e9d8c.jpg
Besides, I would say the easiest way would be to select object with black arrow (V), then use eyedropper (I) and click on my rectangle there. But I just can't. Maybe it's because in my file, you can see two layers of text and I see one...

Color Shift when shrinking photos to Small under Mail Photo

I've noticed that picture quality gets really bad when shrinking photos to small using 'Mail Photo'.
Obviously the resolutio is far lower and quality will drop but it seems to have a strange effect where colours slightly misalign so an object will have a red/green shift appearing on either side of it.
If this is just me - is there a way I can 'reset' iphoto?

jetsetjules:
Welcome to the Apple Discussions. I just ran a test with a couple of color test images and didn't find any color shift between the original and the small in the email. I used Photoshop CS2 to compare.
What camera do you use and what is it's color profile. I have a Canon and here's how it have things set up as far as color management.
Canon imparts the sRGB IE61966-2.1 color profile which is extremely close to the standard sRGB profile. I have my monitor set to the sRGB profile. I do not have iPhoto set to embed a color profile at this time. You can open the ColorSync Utility application, in your Applications/Utilties, and 1- repair all color profiles and 2 -check your camera's profile against what you have the screen set to. You might want to reset the screen to the camera's profile.
Then, using Pref Setter, you can check to see if iPhoto is set to embed a profile or not. You can change it from what it is and import a new file. Then check the color in another email. A little trial and error may be required. You'll also want to check prints against what you see.
If you camera uses the Adobe profile it is much different than the sRGB and you probably will have some adjustments to do. Good luck.

Color blend without creating intermediate object

I suspect the answer to this may be painfully obvious, so please put any "Doh!" thoughts on hold.
I have two overlapping objects of very different shapes, each with a gradient. I want to smooth the color transition between them so that it looks as if there's a single surface.
When I use the Blend tool Illustrator not only blends the colors, it creates an intermediate object as well. Is there a way simply to do the color without creating a new object?

Blends, by definition, create intermediate objects between the original key objects. A Blend creates objects. It does not create color ramps independent of objects. That's what a graduated fill does, but grad fills are very limited in AI compared to just about all of its competing programs.
Mesh Gradients can create multi-directional grad fills. But using the feature can easily become very tedious depending upon the specifics of what you are trying to do.
You need to describe what you are actually trying to do.
It sounds like you may be trying to build simple highlights and shadows to "model" what is to look like 3D surfaces. Using ordinary Blends is the most common way to do that. If that's what you are trying to do, the following may help:
-To avoid the unsightly sawtooth or twisting or spiking "giveaways" of highlight / shadow blends, they should be made between paths which contain the same number of points.
Using paths with equal number of points may require stacking two or three separate blends, instead of assuming the whole start-to-end color ramp has to be accomplished in a single Blend. For example: Start with the underlying shape, and create a Blend that goes from the outer color (rearmost) color to a midtone color (frontmost). Those two paths have the same number of points. Then, create a separate pair of paths (again with same number of points) for a separate highlight. That blend goes from the midtone color (rearmost) to the highlight color (frontmost).
-Make sure the two paths used in the Blend have the same direction.
-You can "index" two corresponding points on the two paths being used for a Blend by directSelecting a point on each path before creating the Blend.
-Realize that Blends are not limted to paths that have solid fills. You can Blend between paths that have Gradient Fills. Many seemingly complex shading problems can be accomplished with simple Blends by just blending between two paths that have the same number of points, but have slightly different grad fills.
-Specified Steps is almost always the best Blend option to use for modeling highlights/shadows. But use common sense. Do not assume that 256 steps are required to get the "smoothest" color transition. For example, if the start-to-finish color ramp of a highlight only spans 10% of a spot color, nothing is gained by using 256 steps. A mere 10 steps will probably do just fine. (Can your eye discern a smaller-than-1% change in halftone dot size?)
Similarly, even if the colors are radically different, 10 or 20 steps may be just fine if the
distance spanned by the Blend is small. (Can your eye detect 256 different different-shaped edges within a quarter-inch span?
JET

Why is color shifting on a scaling image?

I am building a website with a responsive, one-color SVG logo, and for some reason, the color shifts when the image scales down to a certain size. It seems like the color flips from sRGB to my calibrated monitor setting. And it happens on PNGs as well. And when I change the color of the image. This seems to be a strictly Safari issue. FF and Chrome tested out fine. I tried replicating it on my iMac at work, and, surprise, it doesn't happen. On my Mac Pro, I'm using a Spyder4Pro for color calibration on my Dell Ultrasharp. Am I the only one with this problem? I throw myself at the mercy of the Apple forums!

First off, merci beaucoup, Arnaud. Your English is very good.
I'm not sure I've explained the problem very well. The image is switching color profiles in the browser as it's being scaled. It's a fluid image, and every time the image gets down to a specific size, the color profile switches, causing the SVG or PNG to noticably change colors. It looks like an event triggered by a media query, but nothing's set in the CSS.
I've changed how the image is displayed, from embedding it as a background with intrinsic ratio to displaying it explicitly with the <img> tag. I've even embedded different profiles, but nothing seems to stop the change in color. Maybe it's the way Webkit is rendering objects below a certain size? I'm hoping a Webkit specialist out there can help me.
Color management is like alchemy to me, so your article is extremely helpful and very much appreciated, but I'm afraid it doesn't solve why the color changes in the browser without anything to trigger it other than a change in size. :\
C'ie la vie.
Thank you again for your response, and I hope you have a great day!

Problem with some characters in complex objects

Hi all,
I've built a webservice which returns a complex object with several fields inside. All fields are public and accessable via getter and setter methods.
The problem is, that some of these fields contains numbers or underscores in their names.
For example:
public int field_a;
or
public String house3of4;
When I try to import these webservice as a model in a Web Dynpro project, it doesn't work until I remove these characters.
Is this a known problem or is there any solution for it?
Thanks
Thomas

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PLEASE HELP - COLOR SHIFTING PROBLEM on output NTSC monitors

http://www.smmlv.com/testproject/
Above is a link to a layered photoshop file that has a USA map and over a dozen network overlays used in a section of our video. I animate each layer on sepeartely in the video and have noticed a major problem recently, the color of the art does not hold true to placement. I created the art originally in Illustrator and then converted the file to Photoshop at 640x480, 72dpi. This has always worked perfectly in the past to display and animated artwork in FCP.
Right now, in FCP I am using the NTSC DV 3:2 frame size, and the compressor of DV/DVCPRO - NTSC. I have a JVC Profressional DV deck that hooks up through firewire and sends S-Video to my monitors. This setup has always given me a great picture even though it is not completely upcompressed. Using these settings and this art, the color lines on this map in red, light blue, yellow and purple all have a "color shift" to the left about 5 pixels. It makes it appear that the line is where it is in the file, but the color overlaying the line is offset to the left 5 pixels and transperant to about 50%. This occurs only when viewed on some TV's and NTSC monitors and projectors. The strange thing is, some monitors display the color aligned almost perfectly on these maps and other monitors and projectors show this "digital halo" of color shifting really bad. If I take the layered network overlays in these colors and color tint them to black or grey, white, light green, or even light orange, they no longer have the color shifting and the detail is perfect.
Is there any way to fix this problem? I have tried duplicating the sequence and setting the compressor to 8bit Uncompressed, and while my captured footage is not this compression, in theory the art should render at this higher resolution setting. This did nothing to solve the problem.
I also have tried using different Broadcast safe and Y/C corrector filters with different results. The Y/C filter allowed me to reposition the color problem and thus removing most of the problem, but also removing most of the color. Nothing else has allowed me to seemingly move the color into the proper possition.
What is causing this color shift on the displayed NTSC image?
In FCP 4.5 I can see my rendered video in the program viewer screen and besides the pixel compression appearing on the lines, overall the video looks great paused or even better when playing. Then you view it through my deck onto my Pro Sony NTSC 19" color monitor and it also appears great, with a slight color halo to the left of these colors, but the color in the lines are there. If you are a few feet from the screen and know what you are looking for you might see it, but doubtful. Then you view it using the same signal on a 17" Samsung TV and the color shifting makes the map and other art, like the clients blue logo, look horrible, with each color line appearing twice and offset left from each other as if you had double vision. Normally I would think it is the TV causing this, but then we tested this same movie on 2 differnt projectors. The $700 Epson projector displayed everything beautifully, again with only the slightest color halo to the left, but then the Panasonic $4000 projector made everthing in these colors look double vision again. What is going on???
One more thing to keep in mind, my color bars also show this problem with these colors as well as shot footage of these facilities. There are tall red poles in the shots and everything displays fine except for the red pole color looks like it's glowing off the pole to the left.
PLEASE tell me there is a solution to this.

I have tried Degaussing, using filters, changing cables, and testing other monitors and systems on these monitors, everthing I can think of to solve the issue. Is it FCPo or is it the monitors?... or is it a signal strength thing. Can monitors and projectors shift color when the signal is read from a DVD or Mini DV Deck? Is there a fequency difference (Ie: 75mgz or 80 mgz) that might be causing the shift in some monitors and not so badly in others. But if this was true, how would some DVD's (like Baby Einstein DVDs that use really bright colors) display red and blue perfect using these same player and monitor, while my projects is shifting color? Doesn't that rule out the signal from the DVD player if other DVD's do not have this issue?
I have uploaded the original art used, an exported .jpg file from the FCP timeline and sample photos of 2 different monitors to show to show this problem as best I can. http://www.smmlv.com/testproject/
Someone out there must have had this problem before. There's no way a color shift problem like this with Mini DV has gone on this long without someone seeing it.
One last thing about what I have tried... I do understand that with editing in Mini DV instead of uncompressed or HD video I lose a bit of resolution (4:2:2) and I see this compression occuring in some of the areas in the video where these problems persist. But, I did remake the art and rerender this project in an 8bit uncompressed settings and then displayed that up on the screen and I get the same color shift. I keep going in circles trying to find the culprit that is causing the delema.
PLEASE HELP! There are large tours going through our facilities daily and the large screen projector is displaying this problem as well. Let's just hope they don't notice and that their TV's at home or office does not display it on our final DVD's made.

Color shift in save for web

Help!! Yelp! I have followed the directions in previous posts for fixing color shift when saving for web. I switched my monitor to gamma 2.2. I chose sRGB in assign color profile.
The colors still look washed out!
I am using CS4 on the Mac.
What am I doing wrong?

siri3 wrote:
What am I doing wrong?
You are using "assign" instead of CONVERT to sRGB. In addition, accurately calibrate your monitor often and regularly. Even the cheapest hardware calibrator will give superior results to eyeball calibrators.
See the FAQs in the Photoshop forum for your platform, Macintosh or Win.

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