Colour Management in Flash (& secondary Display)

Hi All
when colour management has been enabled ("stage.colorCorrection = ColorCorrection.ON;"), Is the flash player capable of recognising and using the display profile from a secondary display when converting web content from the embedded profile or sRGB?
If so, what version was this implimented in (10?)
Thanks!

Apparently not...
"Although Flash Player color correction can be used on multiple-monitor configurations, only the main monitor's color profile is applied to the SWF file."
http://www.adobe.com/devnet/flash/quickstart/color_correction_as3.html

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