Column break

Is there such a thing as a column break in Illustrator
ie: To force the text to the top of the next column
Steve

Lou your were joking but that has been the stumbling block in getting this very simply feature into Illustrator. There are some very intelligent
and knowledgeable users of Illustrator here on the forum who have argued against using resources for this because they just make another text box,
align them and then group them and they don't seem to think you even need columns when you can do this?
How would hitting the enter key to move to the next column save time, is their thinking and some of them did not think multiple artboards were useful.
of I agree with you fully except for the multiple page thing, I do not really think a multiple page feature is what Illustrator needs the artboards are much better for Illustrator since they can vary in dimensions from one art board to the next have have artboards within artboards and be exported via printing to pdf with a range of artboards. That is more powerful in some ways then just pages.
There is however a future for output as pages and spreads which would be good especially if it could be both for Acrobat and InDesign formats. That could be cool..
What do you think?

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Report column breaking - display text centred in cell

Hi,
I am looking for some help achieving the following:
I have a report which has column breaks on the first three columns. Currently, when the report is displayed, the first column value is displayed in the top row with the rows underneath blank and so on for columns 2 and 3. Then the data for the other columns is displayed as normal.
What I want to do is have the column values that are used in the break spanning the rows they break over so the text is displayed centred (vertically)
ie:
Col1     Col2     Col3           Col4     Col5
                                dat1     dat2
                                dat2     dat3
val1     val2     val3          dat4     dat5
                                dat6     dat7
                                dat8     dat9
val2    xx        xxx         xx        xx
________________________________________________ (Hope this works in ascii!!!) - Col1,2,3 etc are the columns - ignore the vals and dats - they're just data placeholders.
All help much appreciated! :)

Hi,
Something like: http://htmldb.oracle.com/pls/otn/f?p=33642:112 ?
If so, see: Re: How to achieve Page/Form/Report layout?
Andy

Column break in nested matrix

Hi guys,
I created a report of some quality test results containing table with nested matrix for details. I need the
sub-matrix to be grouped by row and by
column and limit the number of result columns in row (to fit the width of report neatly). I went trough the articles about doing column group break already:
http://social.msdn.microsoft.com/Forums/sqlserver/en-US/32f28407-e1ca-457e-92fd-d292e32dde4e/limit-no-of-columns-in-ssrs-matrix-report?forum=sqlreportingservices
http://social.msdn.microsoft.com/Forums/sqlserver/en-US/ea9d795b-8d17-41d2-a1d7-a4069ebb4539/forum-faq-how-do-i-achieve-column-break-in-a-matrix?forum=sqlreportingservices (I have used the 2nd workaround)
My solution without the column count limit feature works perfectly. But when trying to break, the report seems to associate the column groups related to another parent table row, because the number of result grouped columns in row is
less or equal to the set number (=4) as follows:
Test type Test
A A1
Parameter A1-1 A1-2 A1-3 A1-4 // OK - break made after 4 columns of A1
Min x x x x
Max y y y y
Measured z z z z
Parameter A1-5 A1-6 // OK - break made after test type A1 (?Bug cause: "column count 2 for now")
Min x x
Max y y
Measured z z
A2
Parameter A2-1 // OK - break made after test type A2 (?Bug cause: "column count 3 for now")
Min x
Max y
Measured z
B B1
Parameter B1-1 // Not OK - break already made after 1st column (?Bug cause: "column count 4 for now:"=>BREAK)
Min x
Max y
Measured z
Parameter B1-2 B1-3 B1-4 // OK - break made after test type B1
Min x x x
Max y y y
Measured z z z
C C1
Parameter C1-1 C1-2 C1-3 C1-4 // OK - break made after 4 columns of C1
Min x x x x
Max y y y y
Measured z z z z
Parameter C1-5 C1-6 // OK - break made after test type C1
Min x x
Max y y
Measured z z
I have modified the proposed function script for my purposes - set the reset of ID counter in the header of parent row test, set the column ID as concatenation of all level values (test type, test and watched parameter), played with ordering
of data and extra grouping, but with no success.
Does anybody have a suggestion what is going on and how to solve this issue?
Thanks,
Marion
PS: I'm sorry for the table illustration (done the best that I could). As a newbie I'm not allowed to post with picture.
Edit: Do you need some extra information to help? Does somebody have an idea how to achieve the same design with column break some other way?

Hi,
The column break needs to reset when it starts a new row grouping. The customer code therefore needs parameters for the row grouping and for the column grouping.
The code below is slightly different to a lot of examples.
Creating hashtables would keep a record of every column value, so for large reports, this would use a small but significant amount of memory. It only needs to know when it changes. I've also used static variables as the scope only needs to be
the function and not global, plus this makes it a single module of code which helps on larger projects.
The ceiling calculation has been replaced with some integer maths to prevent odd rounding issues that cause hard to trace/reproduce bugs. E.G. a 4 column should be 4-4-4-4-4 but 16 /4 should be 4 but might be
4.000000000000001. Ceilling then returns 5 so you end up with a column jumping to the next line :- 4-3-5-4-4.
Note that everything that used to calculate the row grouping should be concatenated as a single parameter for the most robust solution. In the example the sub group is unique for the entire dataset so is not an issue, but if a sub group is only unique
in the group, there is a small change of a miscalculation.
Here's my solution:
In the code
Function GroupFunction(
ByVal NewGroup as string ,
ByVal NewColumn as string ,
ByVal ColumnBreak as Integer ) As Integer
static OldGroup as string = ""
static OldColumn as string = ""
static RecordCount as integer = 0
if (OldGroup <> NewGroup ) then
OldGroup = NewGroup
OldColumn = ""
RecordCount = RecordCount + ( ColumnBreak - RecordCount Mod ColumnBreak )
end if
if (OldColumn <> NewColumn) then
OldColumn = NewColumn
RecordCount = RecordCount +1
end if
GroupFunction =RecordCount +
( ColumnBreak - (RecordCount - 1) Mod ColumnBreak )
End Function
In the report
= Code.GroupFunction( Fields!MainGroup.Value & ":" & Fields!SubGroup.Value , Fields!Parameter.Value , 4 )
If you want a different number of columns, you can change the 4 to a report parameter.
Output
A
A1
Value Type
A1-01
A1-02
A1-03
A1-04
Max
2
5
8
11
Measured
3
6
9
12
Min
1
4
7
10
Value Type
A1-05
A1-06
A1-07
A1-08
Max
14
1
1
1
Measured
15
1
1
1
Min
13
16
1
1
Value Type
A1-09
A1-10
Max
1
1
Measured
1
1
Min
1
1
A
A2
Value Type
A2-01
Max
1
Measured
1
Min
1
B
B1
Value Type
B1-01
B1-02
B1-03
B1-04
Max
1
1
1
1
Measured
1
1
1
1
Min
1
1
1
1
Value Type
B1-05
Max
1
Measured
1
Min
1
C
C1
Value Type
C1-01
C1-02
C1-03
C1-04
Max
1
1
1
1
Measured
1
1
1
1
Min
1
1
1
1
Value Type
C1-05
C1-06
Max
1
1
Measured
1
1
Min
1
1
Best Regards
Fergus

Press enter puts column break instead of line break in

does anyone know why pressing enter puts column break instead of line break in - I loaded InDesign on my Windows 8 notebook?

Edit > Keyboard Shortcuts... and make a new set.
Change the Product Area dropdown to Type and Tables, then scroll down the list to Insert Break Character: Paragraph Break and then put your cursor in the new shortcut box. Press the Enter key on the numpad and change the context to Text. You'll get a warning that the shortcut is already assigned below the shortcut field, but just click the assign button.
If you want a new shortcut for the column break, scroll back up to that one, then type in a new shortcut. You can use the ctrl, alt and shift modifier keys if you like, along with anything other than a key on the numpad.

Column break problem in word 2010

Hi,
I have a 2 column document. Some how i feel it has inserted a column break in the middle of page 7 of my word document which consists of 12 pages. It is a reviewed document & tracking is also going on and 'Track Changes: On' message is also visible on
my progress bar. On page 7 i have a figure also which is one column wide. The text above this figure goes on to next column after 9th line. There is still a 3 line gap between my text & figure. But its moving the text to next column. After the figure it
shows me the text which should come after the moved text. Please guide me how to fix this problem.
Zulfi.

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Still no column break in illustrator?

Seems odd this feature is still missing if it indeed is:
Re: Column Break in Illustrator CS5

seems odd? it seems business as usual to me.

Can a style control Columns and Column breaks?

Good day,
I am trying something very new and different for me in indesign.
I am creating a catalog, that the text is being input by importing XML. I have created styles for each of the tags coming in from the XML.
but I am currious, Can I tell a style that I would like create a Column. and have my first tag put into the column, then at the next part of the text I have a column break at the start of the text to move it to the next column?
I am just trying to learn how to automate as much of this as possible.
Thank you so much for the help!
Dave Stabley

And while you can create an object style that will define the number of columns in a frame (and you can set a fixed width), I'm not sure you can get ID to create new frames when placing XML, but it may be possible (it certainly is with ordinary text files). You have to try, maybe experimenting with Smart Text Reflow.

Search and Replace "Column Break" with "Page Break"?

Hi,
I have been using the "column break" where I really should have been using the "page break". The page break just makes more sense in my layout.
Is there anyway to search and replace the column break with a page break?
Thanks,
Rhek

Default Style Column Breaking in an Interactive report

In a normal SQL report there are two types of column break formatting:
1) Default Breaking Format e.g.
aaa 123
456
bbb 789
123
2) Repeat Headings e.g.
aaa
123
456
bbb
789
123
Interactive reports seem to only implement Repeat Headings . Is it possible to break columns in an IR report using "Default Breaking Format"? If so how?
thanks
PaulP

JB wrote:
Is it possible to add conditional column formatting in an Interactive Report in Apex 4.1? I've found numerous examples for older versions using the standard (classic) report, but I haven't found any with the new Interactive Report. Is this possible? and if so, can someone point me in the direction of some documentation or examples?
Oracle Application Express (APEX)
As interactive reports lack the HTML Expression feature of standard reports, the simple way to do this unfortunately requires violating the separation of concerns and generating structural (a <tt>span</tt> element) and presentational (an in-line style sheet) aspects in the query:
select
⋮
       , case
           when trunc(calling_date,'DD') = trunc(sysdate,'DD')
           then
             '<span style="color: #3399FF;">' || to_char(calling_date) || '</span>'
           else
             '<span>' || to_char(calling_date) || '</span>'
         end calling_date
⋮For number/date columns to be properly sortable, the leading edge of the column must be an HTML comment that provides the required sort order using character semantics, as shown here.
The Display As column attribute for such columns must be set to Standard Report Column.
This method has side effects: some IR filters won't work; aggregate calculations can't be applied to the column; and report exports contain the HTML rather than the expected value.
Other approaches involve using Dynamic Actions/jQuery/JavaScript, or using the built-in highlight as suggested above, then saving the highlighted report as the default.

Column break with non NumericKeyboard

On the non numeric pad Apple Keybroard, which button is responsible so that my text jump to the next collumn like its done on the numeric Apple keyboard? What button is for the column break?

The text engine is similar but no the same and there simply is no way to access this capabilty in Illustrator but as you point out if Adobe wanted to do so it would be possible since the text engine supports it.
But try as we have we have not to date been able to convince Adobe it is necessary in Illustrator no matter how many times the issue has come up.

Carriage return is giving me a column break.

I don't know why, but just hitting a simple carrage return is giving me a coulumn break. I'm not sure how to make this stop?

TwitchOSX wrote:
Yea, but if it works, it works =)
The point is it DOESN'T work if the keybord binds both keys together. First of all, you don't get a paragraph break, you get a force line break, which is not the same at all, and second, if the keys are bound tegether the numlock will toggle that back and forth between the forced line break and the frame break, just as without the shift it toggles paragraph return and column break. This is a BIOS problem, or perhaps a keyboard problem, and it cannot be "fixed" in ID, only worked around by editing keyboard shorcuts so both the regular and numpad enter keys are both assigned to the same tasks.

Deleting Column Break Changes Formatting

When I do a search and replace of a Column break and replace it with a Frame break, the paragraph and character formatting of the line on the next page clear any formatting applied to it.
I'm using CS6
Any ideas on how to do this without effecting the formatting?
Thanks,
Peter

I'm not sure why each frame/card's content won't be controlled properly with the start in new frame/column/page property, rather than needing a break character.
As to imposition issues, there are folks on this forum far more experienced than I am, in strategies for this.
HTH
Regards,
Peter
Peter Gold
KnowHow ProServices
TYPE A wrote:
Yes, because the cards are done in a single format, for proofing and viewing and before going to the printer they are put into a file that's setup 100-up. And without the Frame Breaks the cards won't show up in all 100 boxes.
Unless there's a way to take the single cards and imposition them to 100-up in the proper orientation. 100-up Fronts and 100-up Backs.
Thanks!

Problem with column break in word 2010

Hi,
I have a 2 column document. Some how i feel it has inserted a column break in the middle of page 7 of my word document which consists of 12 pages. It is a reviewed document & tracking is also going on and 'Track Changes: On' message is also visible on my
progress bar. On page 7 i have a figure also which is one column wide. The text above this figure goes on to next column after 9th line. There is still a 3 line gap between my text & figure. But its moving the text to next column. After the figure it shows
me the text which should come after the moved text. It was showing me section break continuous but then i deleted it but still the problem persists. Please guide me how to fix this problem.
Zulfi.

Hello,
I have replicated and confirmed the problem with LabVIEW 2010, Report Generation Toolkit 2010 and Word 2010. I have filed this to R&D under CAR ID #257414. As a workaround you can manually set each cell using Word Edit Cell.vi. I have attached a simplified representation of this unexpected behavior as well as the workaround. Hopefully this helps everyone out!
David_L | Certified LabVIEW Architect
LabVIEW Tools Network | LabVIEW Tools Network Developer Center
Attachments:
Word 2010 Table CAR.vi ‏17 KB
Word 2010 Table FIX.vi ‏22 KB

Forum FAQ: How do I achieve column break in a matrix?

Symptom
Although you can set page break for column group in Reporting Services 2008, page breaks are ignored on column groups. Reference:
http://msdn.microsoft.com/en-us/library/ms156434.aspx
Solution
Here are some workarounds, available forboth Reporting Services 2005 and2008:
Workaround 1
Spread the columns from one matrix into several matrixes. You can first copy one matrix and then paste it into several ones you want. Then set the filter for each column group to make sure that the total columns’ length in one matrix just fit a page’s width.
Workaround 2
The other method is to use a custom code.
a.     Please copy the following code to the custom code area:
Dim FlagTable As System.Collections.Hashtable
Dim Flag AS Integer
Function MyFunc(ByVal NewValue As Object) As Integer
If (FlagTable Is Nothing) Then
FlagTable = New System.Collections.Hashtable
End If
If (NewValue Is Nothing) Then
NewValue = "-"
End If
If (Not FlagTable .Contains(NewValue )) Then
Flag =Flag + 1
FlagTable.Add(NewValue, nothing)
End If
MyFunc = Flag
End Function
b.     Create a list in your report.
Imagine thatthe column group of a matrix is grouped bythe field ‘Column_Group’, then set the detail group of list withthe expression like this:
=Ceiling(Code.MyFunc(Fields!Column_Group.Value)/5)
Note: This means the Max number of column in matrix will be five after you follow step C.
c.      Sort the dataset by column group field, and then drag the matrix into the list. Click Preview.
Workaround 3
Similar to the second method, you need to modify the dataset.
a.     Create an ID column for the column group in your dataset.
For example,there isa datasetwith the following query:
SELECT * FROM Table
The column group is grouped on the field “Group1”.Then, modify the query like this:
SELECT *, Dense_Rank()OVER(order by Group1) AS ID FROM Table
b.     Create a list in your report, set the detail group of the list with the Expression like this:
=Ceiling(Fields!ID.Value/5)
Note: This meansthat the Max number of column in matrix will be five after you followthe step C.
c.      Sort the dataset bythe column group and then drag the matrix into the list. Click Preview.

I have near about 30 matrics. so I need a paging. I did every thing as per this post and it really works for me.
I have total four columns. On one page it should show three and the remaining one will be moved to next page.
Problem occurs when in my first row i have 3 columns and in next page if I have one columns then it show proper on first page but on second page also it gives me three columns insted of one. the first column data is exactly what I have but in remaining two
columns it shows some garbage data.
I have data like below.
Metric ColumnNo RowNo
1 1
1
2 2
1
3 3
1
4 1
2
so while grouping i have a row parent group on RowNo and Column group on ColumnNo.
can anyone please advice on this.

How to Suppress Report Total When Using Sum on Columns & Break Formatting

I need to know how to NOT show the report total line when using the sum functionality with a break in a report.
I am summing two columns, a debit amount and credit amount. I am breaking on the first column which is the level of a hierarchical query. I want to see something like this:
Parent Record xxxxxxxxxxxxxx
Parent Sum $$ $$
Child Record xxxxxxxxxxxxxx
Child Record xxxxxxxxxxxxxx
Child Sum $$ $$
However, when I run the report, I also get a report total line under the child sum which is really meaningless for this report.
I have also tried creating this report as an interactive report. When applying the sum on the two columns, I do get the sum totals on the break only - no report total - however, it is reversing the order of the hierarchical query results putting the child records first and the parent records second.
Thanks in advance for your help.

Hi, and welcome!
I don't think that there's an easy way to "switch off" the Total line on a report. The nearest I could suggest would be to either hide the entire row or colour the text so that it's the same as the background - either way, the total is calculated but the user won't see it.
If you put something like the following into your report region's Region Footer:
<script type="text/javascript">
var outertable = document.getElementById("#REGION_ID#");
var innertable = outertable.getElementsByTagName("TABLE")[1];
var rs = innertable.rows;
var lastrow = rs[rs.length-1];
if (lastrow.cells[0].innerHTML == '<b>TOTAL</b>')
rs[rs.length - 1].style.display = "none";
</script>Then, on your report's Report Attributes page, scroll down to the Break Formatting section and put TOTAL into the "Display this text when printing report sums" setting. Also, in the "Layout and Pagination" section, set "Enable Partial Page Refresh" to No.
The above code is based on the report and region templates that I'm using here: [http://apex.oracle.com/pls/otn/f?p=267:147] (Theme 18, "Report Region" region template and "Standard" report template). Your report may use different templates, so the first two lines on the code may have to change. #REGION_ID# would be replaced with the region's ID value (which would be "R" followed by a long number). As long as you can identify the HTML tag that uses this ID value, you can then get to the actual table that contains the data as it would be a TABLE within that tag - the [1] above is the second table within the region. In some instances, you may have to use "region_#REGION_ID#" as the starting point.
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