Consolidation unit change

Hello, dear colleagues !
The client works with BCS ver. 4 BW 3.5.
The earliest date in the system is 12/2006.
The client mainteins one legal hierarchy of companieis and one hierarchy of Profit centers (matrix scenario).
The client needs to make some changed in a profit center hierarchy from 01/2009, wich is to "moove" some PCs from one node to another in the same hierarchy.
The client does not want to create a new PCs hierarchy with the new structure, because in the BEX reports the user needs to choose the PC hierarchy, so they don't want to rely on user to remember wich hierarchy he needs to choose.
What is the best practice to do changes like this?
Thanks,
Lilia

The best practice in the situation is to:
- set parameters to 01/2009
- make hierarchy changes
- update cons group configurations for periods of divestiture/first consolidation according to SAP guidelines (be sure to get this right)
- for transfers create cons group organization change number (if applicable)
- post additional financial data for transfer or divestiture/acquisition
- execute tasks, including cons group changes tasks

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Entry cannot be posted :B/s and I/S balance of 1.7million.
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Selvam

Hi,
Is it a Production system? In Consolidation if a Consolidation Unit is moved from one group to another it will have serious repurcursions. In one of the projects in test system we had this problem. SAP OSS Notes also suggest that Consolidation Unit - if transaction data is already posted - it should not be moved. Especially if Consolidation of Investments is configured it is going to be a problem.
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I have Company 1018 moving up in the hierarchy from congroup B to congroup A.
I have configured the divestiture date as 12/2010 for Company 1018 in congroup B.
When I try to add company 1018 to congroup A, I get errormessage that u201CCompany 1018 is already used in hierarchiesu201D that it exist in congroup B.
Could anyone tell me exactly how to add company 1018 to congroup A to avoid this error message.
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Sveinn Muller.

Hi,
SAP Note 702649 refers to when consgroup is moved
SAP Note 721376 refers to when cons.unit is moved, as it is in my case
I'm doing this according to below description in SAP Note 721376
the only problem is when I add 1018 in consgroup A in my example, I get mentioned error.
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"No Fiscal Year Variant assinged to consolidation unit" error for 3EC_CS_1A

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I'm getting following extraction error using RSA3 for datasource 3EC_CS_1A in R3 (4.7) system. Could someone shed some ideas on how to fix it.
No fiscal year variant assigned to consolidation unit 0000000000000000XX.
same error is coming for all consolidation units.
I checked ECMCT table and it has records in it.
I went to "Consolidation unit change" using CX1N and found out that above consolidation unit has our customer defined "standard fiscal year variant assigned" for the corresponding ledger listed in ECMCT.
What else might be missing & how to fix it. same error in both DEV & QAS. Appreciate any inputs
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http://immadi.com
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thanks for your post.
I checked T009 and see that fiscal year variants are maintained. K4 as well as "customer defined standard fiscal year variant". what else might be missing.
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http://immadi.com
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Standardizing entries:Consolidation Group Change

Hi,
We have document type of posting level 12, to reverse the document type of posting level 10 (standardizing entries) when consolidation unit change the group or leaves the group.
When group change task is executed, the balance becomes zero.
However, when balance carryforward is executed, the Document type of posting level 12 is not carried forward to next year. This results in balance appearing in the accounts where postings were madeat posting level 10 in the last year.
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UR

Can you confirm you see the PL10 entries if you run a list of totals records, standard reporting logic, and the consolidation group where the entity previously existed?
If you have PL10 balance sheet activity for 00 - 03/2007 and divest in 04/2007, the system books the PL12 in 04 to write down these balances. In the "Standard" reporting logic, the system will look for all 00, 01, and 10's for company XYZ between 00/2007 and 04/2007 --> those are the dates when the company was a member of the consolidation group.
When you do a BCF to 2008, the PL12 should not carry forward. When reporting on 01/2008, for example, "Standard" logic will see that company XYZ was divested in 04/2007 and will look for any postings related to that company. The PL12's are only needed during the year in which the company was divested.
Note that you can keep feeding balances to the company and the system will keep booking intercompany eliminations, etc. But as long as you have the master data and AFD set correctly, that company should not appear in the consolidated reports.
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BCS how to change the accounting technique of consolidation unit.

Hi, expert,
    We have a C/I method with accounting technique 'equity method', but when we assign the method to consolidation unit, the value of 'accounting technique' of consolidation unit is 3 (mutul stock method ), not 2 (equity method).
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I really appreciate your input on this matter
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Thanks, Dan and Collet
   In my compandy hierarchy, each consolidation unit with the method is 3, not 2. include inheritance and not inheritance.
   When I double click one of consolidation unit. a maintain window display, I change accounting technique in this window, the syste issue another message UGMD016 ('The value 2 is invalid for characteristic METHOD'
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Total transfer of equity consolidated unit using organizational change

Hi,
We have a scenario where we are doing total transfer of an equity consolidated unit (100% owned) from one company(old parent) to another (new parent)
The new parent is one level above the old parent in the hierarchy.
We've used organizational change logic and have set the divestiture dates/flag in the sender consolidation group and accordingly first consolidation dates/flag/OC number in the receiver consolidation group.
The investment AFD is submitted with "total transfer" with OC number.
There are multiple scopes of reported data for equity method in our configuration.
Each scope(equity pickup) is inturn created by reclassifying several equity accounts to a single BCS only item(the scope item)
When we run COI, the system posts one total divestiture document at the old conso group (where old parent is situtated) and posts a first consolidation, total divestiture, total transfer documents at the new conso group level (which is one level above the sender conso group)
The total divestiture document at upper level is reversing the divestiture document posted at old parent.
The first consolidation document jas only statistical items posted in it.
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Q1. Consolidation group change tasks (at PL02, 12, 22) are not posting any documents. Is there an issue? Since I am using these tasks for the first time and dont know if this is possible.
Q2. The total transfer document is reading the equity holdings data as double the expected value( for each of the scopes of equity method). What could be the possible reason? How to fix this?
Q3. I would appreciate if someone can clarify what kind of postings the system makes as part of divestiture/transfer in case of equity consolidated unit transfer.
Please help!
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AJ

Thanks Dan.
Appreciate if you can help on the below points as well.
1. As part of divestiture/transfer postings: The system is reversing some Previous Year(PY) equity accounts into themselves. How can we get the system to eliminate them by posting to COI Clearing account. Basically, we dont want the PY accounts to be touched?
For the Retained earnings - PY account, the system is actually posting to COI clearing account.
These PY accounts are part of some scopes for equitization.
Is there any link between the "balance carry forward" - list of items table and the divestiture postings?
Does the system check this table while posting/reversing the equity(PY) accounts?
2. I want to understand the sequence in which the system posts the documents at the old parent and new parent (group) level.
The same activity number is there for Total Divestiture, total transfer documents posted at new parent level and total divestiture document posted at old parent level.
Does the system follow bottom up approach? Thereby creating total divestiture document at old parent level.
Followed by documents at upper level (new parent level)
Also , at the upper level(new parent level), does it post documents in the way they are shown in the log? (We havent changed the default sequence maintained in UCWB - COI settings). so it will post first consolidation doc, followed by total divestiture, followed by total transfer docs at the new parent level?
Is this the reason for the double value being posted at new parent for equity holding data?
Will studying the statistical items (corresponding to eliminated equity holding items) be relevant here to understand why at upper level there is double the value being posted by system?
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Consolidation Unit Clearing account for Income / Expenses elimination

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When companys are leaving the group, where the parent comapany has some income/expenses elimination transactions with the company leaving, there is still balance on the parent company on consolidation unit clearing account with the company leaving the group as partener company.
This shows incorrectely the retained earning for the parent company for posting leve20 when balances on consolidation unit clearing account is not included. Please advise.
We are not unsing COI but we are using Group change functionalities when company leaves the grop.
Furthere, in all auto elimination document type for Balance Sheet Elimination and Income statement elimination, we have assigned same consolidation unit clearing account. Please advise.
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UR

When viewing the results using the standard reporting mode I suspect the balances are okay. Please clarify in detail how the data is being analyzed so we may better assist.

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Is the task "Preparation for Consolidation Group Changes" only implemented when Consolidation of Investments has also been implemented?
Does "Preparation for Consolidation Group Changes" have any value on its own?
Any comments, replies or suggestions most welcome.

Hi,
I think that prep for cons group changes is independent (but supplementary to) from CoI.
See what is said in help:
"When in the middle of a fiscal year a consolidation unit is either acquired by a consolidation group (acquisition), divested from a consolidation group (divestiture), or <b>changes its accounting technique</b> (method change), the following data must be adjusted:
- Reported financial data
- Standardized financial data
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As you can see, not only consolidated data are to be changed, but also Standardized and Reported.
Moreover, as is seen above, changes of accounting technique will also trigger such activities.
So, my answers:
1. No
2. Yes.
Best regards,
Eugene

Balance carryforward consolidation unit with equity method

Hi experts,
One question in relation with balance carryforward in SEM BCS 4.0. Do Additional finantial data of Consolidation unit with equity method must be carried forward to following periods?
I have a problem with AFD validation for equity method.
Best regards,
Beatriz B.

Thanks Halim,
I am not using consolidation unit combination. It is only Legal Consolidataion. However, I have fixed the problem by changing the master data of consolidation unit. I have enabled FCEP.
I have one more question. Do I have to run Consolidation Group Change Task also when I am switching from Equity method to Purchase method for Associate companies?
When I am changing from Equity to Purchase method all the previous C/I postings are reversed, but the profit of Associates which was already accounted by holding company in the previous period is transfered to Net Income-Method Change and second effect is given to Goodwill (GW is enhanced).
Hence, post change of method, when I upload TB of Associate, the Net Income is not eliminated to the extent of the profit Adjusted on account of Method change.
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USR

Consolidation Unit in the wrong position in Accounting Techniques tree

Hi all,
I'm facing a problem with a consolidation unit (A) in the Accounting Techniques tree (T1).
The issue is resolved when I delete the unit A from the consolidation group tree (T2) but, when I add the unit A to the consolidation group tree (T2) again, the unit appears in two places, and that is not correct.
I've tried to delete and move the unit through the Accounting techniques tree (T1), but the problem continues.
Can you help me??
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Inge Eichhorns

In some cases it is standard for a cons unit to be included in the Acctg Techniques assignment multiple times. Because the assignments may different at various levels in the hierarchy, especially when not inherited downward.
One way to check this or change this is to check the assignments via the cons group view by clicking on the cons group and selecting View > Cons Group.
Edited by: Dan Sullivan on Nov 19, 2009 10:38 PM

COI not reading equity data after consolidation group change

Dear experts,
I am running the consolidation of investments task for a new group that has been created on 012.2009. This new group CG2 is a child of an existing one CG1, and all the consolidation units that I have in 012.2009 under CG2 were in 012.2008 under the CG1.
In my new group GC2 all the units have as first consolidation period 012.2009 and on the parent group they have as last consolidation period 012.2009.
The problem is that when I run the COI task the system does not read the equity data for these consolidation units. I have both, equity data and Investment data defined to be read from additional financial data. The system reads correctly the investment data for the parent consolidation unit, and tries to eliminate it, but as it does not read the equity data of the child so it takes the value to consolidation a difference, that is incorrect.
Does anyone know what I am missing?
Thanks in advance.
Kind regards,
Sónia

Hi Sonia
i dont want to confuse you as Dan is guiding so far. let me put my thoughts some here.
CG1 12/2008
   - CU - A    Parent    12/2008 to 999/9999
   - CU- B                   12/2008 to 999/9999
   - CU - C                  12/2008 to 999/9999
do you have any another sub node for CU-B and CU-C? as B has investment in C
New Group: 12/2009
CG1
   - CU -A    12/08 to 999/9999
   - CU - B    12/08 to 12/9999
   - CU - C     12/08 to 12/2009
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CG1
    -CU-A
    -CU-B
       I--- CG2
             CU - B   Parent 12/09 to 999/9999
             CU - C                12/09 to 999/9999
     - CU-C
Now with above scenario you can invest in C from B and system will treate as FIRST CONSOLIDATION based on AFD Investments/Equity
How did you maintain B investments in C at CG1 12/08 level?
and or    as per Dan
You have to run PREP for CONSOLIDATION GROUP CHANGE task before CT task and after Elim Taks but before COI task
thx

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Hi Team,
Have anybody come across scenario like two consolidation units getting merged into one in BCS,
How to handle such scenario?
which functionality should we use ?
what will be changes in consolidation of investment?
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Sreedhar

Dear greg misiorek,
As far as I know the consolidation group change task is applicable only if the consolidation unit is
transfered from one group to other, but In case of merger of consolidation units within the same group will it this be valid.
For instance I have a group A under which I have three companies A1, A2, A3.
but now I have to merge A2 in A1.
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Execution of preparation for consolidation group changes

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In 1/2011 there was a change in the consolidation units hierarchy.
A consolidation unit moved to upper consolidation group.
I cannot find in the master data of the consolidation unit , where should I update the FIRST CONSOLIDATION DATE,
and the LAST CONSOLIDATION DATE.
Best regards,
Odelia Volfovich.

Look at the master data of the cons groups - both the initial cons group as well as the new cons group.
If this truly is a vertical move up the hierarchy, the initial cons group should have a period of divestiture, as 001/2011.
Because the cons unit has always been a part of the higher up cons group via the lower cons groups ownership, the new cons group should have period of first consolidation the same as that of the initial cons group.
The cons unit should remain in both cons groups until at least the end of the fiscal year and in many cases, depending on the reporting needs for year-over-year comparison reporting, it should remain for an additional year or more.

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I am working on a project where I need to Merge Two Consolidation Unit of the same Consolidation Group.
For Example, Consolidation Group A1 & A2 is under Consolidation Group ABC. Now we need to Merge Cons. Unit A1 into Cons. Unit A2 under the same Cons. Group ABC. How to handle this in SEM - BCS?
I cannot use Consolidation Group Changes as this is not transferring but it is merging of two Cons. Unit.
Your input is highly apprecialbe.
Regards,
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Hi HI COLLET Thibaud ,
Thanks for the reply and sorry for my late reply. I was gathering information that you asked from the client. Now picture is more clear.
Ex.
Consoildation Unit: A & Consoildation Unit: B. Both are under Consolidation Group AB
Parent Unit : C
Now Consoildation Unit: A is getting transferred to Consoildation Unit: B. Business wants to transfer Balance Sheet as on Date. There is no Goodwill. Everything is getting transferred at Book Value.
Now for Share Capital purchase, there are two options suggested. One is to buy share of Consoildation Unit: A by Cash and second is to buy share of Consoildation Unit: A by issuing Shares of Consoildation Unit: B.
If we go for option 1 of purchasing through Cash, then there will be impact only on Cash Outflow from Consoildation Unit: B and Share Capital Reduction from Consoildation Unit: A. This will happen becasue Consoildation Unit: B will pay Cash to Consoildation Unit: A and Consoildation Unit: A in turn will pay for Share Capital and reduce its Share Capital. But if we go for option 2 of issuing shares of Consoildation Unit: B, then there will be change in the Share Capital of Consoildation Unit: B and reduction in the Share Capital of Consoildation Unit: A. In any case, there will be reduction in Share Capital of Consoildation Unit: A.
So what do you suggest in this scenario? What will be the BCS impact if we go for option1 or option2. Just to remind, we are transferring everything including Share Capital in FI. But I am wondering the steps and impact on BCS...
Your input is highly appreciable and definately will be rewarded with points !!!
Thanks..
Best Regards,
Viral Joshi

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