Cost collectors in cost hierarchy

Hi all,
Does everyone know how to be sure all cost collectors are assigned to a cost object hierarchy?
Is there any transaction that display cost collectors that are not assigned to any cost objet?
Thanks in advance,
Ronan

Hello Ronan,
I have created a query to solve this issue. Table AFPO can give you your cost collectors and by linking this table to table CKPE as a "left outer join" you will have a query that shows your cost collectors and which ones are or are not attached to the COH.
Hope this helps,
Nick

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