Cost element creation

Hi all,
I'm exploring ways to create cost elements with batch input.
In fact I need to generate cost element with category 90.
Standard CO-settings (OKB2) are made to define a range of cost elements, but it doesn't let me define a range for statistical balance sheet account cost elements, the systems only accepts individual values. OSS note 890228 seems to confirm that OKB2 is not recommended to create cost elements of category 90.
Because I need to generate a mass of cost elements of this category, I'm looking for another transaction.
Thanks for your reply.
Pascal

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