Cost of sales and period accounting approach
Hi friends,
i have little bit confusion about
1. What is Cost of Sales Accounting and
2. What is Period Accounting approach in Profit Center Accounting?
Regards,
Siva Reddy S.
Hello,
For concept, pl refer to below link:
http://help.sap.com/saphelp_47x200/helpdata/en/eb/13811243c411d1896f0000e8322d00/frameset.htm
For Cost of sales accounting, you have to activate functional area. Revenues are only compared for cost of goods sold in COS whereas in period based, you also compare revenue reserves, WIP etc.
Thanks,
Sourabh
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I have a requirement where, i need to configure an existing order type to hit a different GL account key.
For tracking purposes, a new order reason has been defined.
How can this configuration be carried out?
Thanks in advance,1 ) Also you need to get the code added to invoice user exit RV60AFZZ in the USEREXIT_ACCOUNT_PREP_KOMPCV.
Which Code is this?
Answer: KOMPCV-ZZAUGRU = VBRP-AUGRU_AUFT
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Where should the condition table be created? And what are the fields?
Answer: SPRO-IMG-Sales and Distirbution - basic Function - Account Assignmnet / costing - Revenue Account determination - Define dependencies of Revenue account determination
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Allocation of Sales and Expenditure Accounts only to a profit center.
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I had earlier posted a question on how to allocate a BP to a Profit center:
Hi,
Is it possible to allocate a BP to one or more Profit centers when creating a BP Master in SAP;such that, on creation of a marketing document the Profit center is directly picked up instead of selecting it.
Please comment.
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Projects can be associated with a Business Partner in the Master data definition but not Profit Center.
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then your Formatted Search on the Marketing document would be
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the FMS would be
SELECT T0.U_PC1 FROM dbo.OCRD T0 WHERE T0.CardCode = $http://$4.0.0
UNION ALL
SELECT T0.U_PC2 FROM dbo.OCRD T0 WHERE T0.CardCode = $http://$4.0.0
Suda
Now, since the BP has already been allocated to the profit center anytime a service type credit note is passed which links to a Liability or an "Other" Account type, the profit center still gets allocated.
Can I make any changes to the query such that only Sales or Expenditure account could be allocated to the BP, and any other account if tagged the entry is not tagged with a profit center.
This has become critical for users who check the profit center report, which does not give the correct figure because of the above issue.
Please advise.Hi Julie,
Thanks for your reply!
We have recently upgraded to 2005B PL43.
Still it has not helped.
Secondly these report are regularly checked by our Sales manager's hence updating using DTW will be a cumbersome affair.
Is there some query which can update the fields correctly......
E.g. Can the following query be amended to get the correct result:
DECLARE @Type nvarchar(1)
SELECT @Type=T1.ActType FROM OACT T1 WHERE T1.AcctCode=$[$39.94.0]
IF @Type='I'
BEGIN
SELECT T0.U_AT_PC FROM [dbo].[OCRD] T0 WHERE T0.CardCode= $[$4.0.0]
END
ELSE
IF @Type='E'
BEGIN
SELECT T0.U_AT_PC FROM [dbo].[OCRD] T0 WHERE T0.CardCode= $[$4.0.0]
END
ELSE
BEGIN
SELECT u2018u2019
END
Need your advise.
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Allocation of Sales and Expenditure Accounts to Profit Center.
Hi,
I had earlier posted a question on how to allocate a BP to a Profit center:
Hi,
Is it possible to allocate a BP to one or more Profit centers when creating a BP Master in SAP;such that, on creation of a marketing document the Profit center is directly picked up instead of selecting it.
Please comment.
Regards,
The answer which solved it is :
Projects can be associated with a Business Partner in the Master data definition but not Profit Center.
Profit Center have associated distribution rules and are linked to G/L account or a transaction at the row level.
You could do this. Create a UDF in the BP Master to enter the profit Center information.
In the Sales Order Rows..in the Profit Center field create a Formatted Search to pull the Profit Center from the BP Master UDF
Example: Let us say your Profit Center User field on the BP Master is called U_PC
then your Formatted Search on the Marketing document would be
SELECT T0.U_PC FROM [dbo].[OCRD] T0 WHERE T0.CardCode = $[$4.0.0]
Set it to Auto Refresh on Item Code ....check Display Saved Values
If you want 2 Profit Centers on the BP Master and the user would select it in the Marketing document then let us presume your UDF's are U_PC1 and U_PC2,
the FMS would be
SELECT T0.U_PC1 FROM [dbo].[OCRD] T0 WHERE T0.CardCode = $[$4.0.0]
UNION ALL
SELECT T0.U_PC2 FROM [dbo].[OCRD] T0 WHERE T0.CardCode = $[$4.0.0]
Suda
Now, since the BP has already been allocated to the profit center anytime a service type credit note is passed which links to a Liability or an "Other" Account type, the profit center still gets allocated.
Can I make any changes to the query such that only Sales or Expenditure account could be allocated to the BP, and any other account if tagged the entry is not tagged with a profit center.
Please advise.
Edited by: Vishal Attal on Oct 14, 2008 12:53 PM
Edited by: Vishal Attal on Oct 14, 2008 12:54 PMHi Vishal
Best will be to use the ActType field from OACT to check whether it is an "I" (Income) or "E" (Expenditure) and not an "N" (other) type.
Change query as follows:
SELECT CASE WHEN (SELECT T1.ActType FROM dbo.OACT T1 WHERE T1.AcctCode = $[$39.94.0]) <> 'N' THEN (SELECT T0.U_PC FROM dbo.OCRD T0 WHERE T0.CardCode = $[$4.0.0]) ELSE '' END
Let me know if it works
Kind regards
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- What is reconciliation ledger? what is diff between Reconciliation ledger and Special purpose ledger?
sure we will assign good points
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VKIf you right click on an Invoice and choose "Gross Profit" it will give you a setting on how you want to calculate the Gross Profit for that invoice.
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See screenshot:
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Sales Analysis report does not match Cost of Sales Account
My client is running SAP B1 8.81 PL 6. He has set all items to standard costing method. He has discovered that the difference between the Sales Amount and the Gross Profit amount on the Sales Analysis report, which should equal the Cost of Sales for the Items, does not match the Cost of Sales G/L account on the P&L report. If you look at a sample of rows, the above difference divided by the quantity equals the standard cost of the item. There are no manual journal entries that affect the COS account for the posting period that is being analyzed. I cannot see any mathmatical difference or problem with the above analysis, nor can I find the problem. There is about an $85K difference between the reports. The Sales Amount on the Sales Analysis report matches the revenue account on the P&L to the penny. Has anyone ever compared these 2 reports? Thank you for your help.
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See screenshot:
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Hello BW gurus,
sorry for the incomplete question.
This is how i need my report.
Account Number Key Figure Type Company code Plant Sales Organization Fiscal year/period Z1/007.2006 Z1/008.2006 Z1/009.2006 Z1/010.2006 Z1/011.2006 Z1/012.2006
SALES x1
SALES x2
SALES x3
SALES x4
SALES x5
SALES x6
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Similarly i need to get the cost of sales and its overall results
and then i have to get the gross margin as (Sales - Cost of Sales) for each fiscal period(columnwise).
i got the Sales and Cost of Sales like this
Plant Sales Organization Fiscal year/period
SALES
COST OF SALES
GROSS MARGIN
SALES
COST OF SALES
GROSS MARGIN
SALES
COST OF SALES
GROSS MARGIN
SALES
COST OF SALES
GROSS MARGIN
SALES
COST OF SALES
GROSS MARGIN
SALES
COST OF SALES
GROSS MARGIN
SALES
COST OF SALES
GROSS MARGIN
but i need all the sales data first and its total(S)
and then all the cost of sales data and its total(C)
and the gross margin (S-C) for individual fiscal period.
Please reply ASAP.Quick help is appreciated.
Thanks in advance,
Regards
Sam MathewHi Viraylab,
check <b>VBAP-NETPR</b> field of table <b>VBAP</b>
It gives the net price corresponding to a line item.
Goto Tcode VA03.See the <b>item overview</b> tab U will get <b>Net Price</b> field for indivisual line item.
Reward points if helpful.
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I'm testing SAP EC&O best practice solution at this moment.
I executed KKAJ (results analysis) and both Cost of Sales and WIP were calculated correctly.
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WIP: for other WBS which is still in progress.
I already saved this results analysis, however, when I execute settlement (CJ8G), I can only find the posting to FI of WIP. (Dr GL WIP account/Cr P&L WIP account). My expect is to have COS posted to FI as well (to recognize COS for the billing of completed WBS above).
Kindly help me to figure out what I was missing here? I don't know at what step COS will be posted to FI. I searched all configuration document in Best Practice but cannot find any configuration for Results Analysis & Settlement for COS account.
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<b>Could someone explain to me the difference between Period accounting and Cost of Sales accounting? Where is period accounting configured in ECC 6.0?</b>
I am trying configure PCA. The client wants the Profit centers to be setup product-wise. They have 3 products: a) a handheld GPS device, b) the accessories for the GPS device, c) and the subscription. I have setup 3 profit centers according to the 3 products.
<b>Does either cost of sales accounting or period accounting come into the picture in my scenario? What I mean is, do either of the two methods have to be configured? And if so, why?</b>
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http://help.sap.com/bp_bblibrary/600/html/N74_EN_GCC.htm
Cost of Sales Accounting
http://help.sap.com/saphelp_erp2005vp/helpdata/en/b3/c3e040852f712ae10000000a155106/content.htm
Period Accounting
In period accounting, the performance of a particular business unit (profit center) - that is, its revenues, changes in inventory and capitalized services - is set off against the total costs of the period. This occurs at the G/L account level and adheres to the formal structure of Financial Accounting. This gives you a uniform structure of report data and lets you reconcile the data of cost and financial accounting on the basis of cost elements.
Hope this helps.
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Cost of sales accounting & period accounting
Hi folks,
I want to know the difference between cost of sales accounting & period accounting. where do we use them and which is preferable. thanks in advance.
Regards,
VijayTwo accounting methods used for generating profitability statements are the cost-of-sales method and the period accounting method. Applying either method to a given set of business transactions under a given set of laws yields the same bottom-line result (profit) in concept. The difference is in how the overall profit and loss picture is presented.
Companies must choose to use one of these methods for generating their legal financial statements. <b>The choice is often determined by country-specific legal requirements.</b>
Cost-of-sales accounting
With this method, the emphasis is on matching the revenues for goods and/or services provided (the value that a company gains as a result of sales) against the related expenses for those items (the value that is lost when products are transferred out of the company). Therefore, this accounting method displays profit and loss information in a manner optimized for conducting margin analyses, and as such it is optimal for the sales, marketing, and product management areas.
Period accounting
With this method, the emphasis is on summarizing the activity and situational change over a period of time, for a given organizational unit. Therefore, this accounting method presents the revenues and primary expenses that have been incurred during a given period of time and the changes in stock value levels, work-in-process, and capitalized activities. As such, it is optimal for the production and profit center areas. -
Functional area and cost of sales accounting (company code 2000) active
Hi There!
I hope someone can help.
In our sandbox system, whenever I try to convert a Purchase requistion into a Purchase Order I get the following error message : "Functional area and cost of sales accounting (company code 2000) active".
Anyone know how I can resolve this issue?
Kind regards,
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Then go to
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Cost Center and GL account in Sales Order / Delivery
I have a requirement where we want user to specify what cost center and GL account should be used while posting goods issue.
Currently GL account and Cost Center is automatically determined based on OBYC configuration.
Is there a way user can populate Cost center and GL account at Sales order or Delivery document level and what ever they have specified will be used for Posting Goods Issue.
If user doesnt specify anything then standard OBYC determination should take place.
I looked at OVF3 transaction which can default cost center (though no GL account) but its not useful in our requirement.
I also looked at OKB9 transaction but not sure if we can use it either.
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Thanks.Hi,
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Hope this helps.
Cheers,
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