Cost Run in Sub Con Process
Hello all,
I have an issue. There is sub con senereo. The procurement type is F & 30 ( External pur wih subcontrcting) . In the begining i am sending raw material to sub contractor & he does operation over it & sends me the finsh component. I have maintained infor records with info catagory as subcon with price Rs.60/- When i run the cost then i could see the cost of finish component as Rs.70/- ( Material coast rs.10 + 60rs as machining cost ).
Now again i am sending for 2nd operation for platting to sub con with info price. 10rs/ . But when i am again trying to run the cost for the material then i can not able to see the cost of plating ( 10rs) in the cost of material....
What do u think....where i am doing wrong......in both the case how can i maintain the info reocrds?
please guide.
Thanks in advance
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Can somebody please tell me , what is the procedure for sending the special stock(project) material for sub contracting .
Thanks in advanceHi Avid,
Materials assigned to sales order or project (that are located in sales order or in project special stock segment) are not "transported" in SAP to the subcontractor.
Please check SAP online help:
http://help.sap.com/erp2005_ehp_04/helpdata/EN/4d/2b90b043ad11d189410000e829fbbd/frameset.htm
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Hi Experts,
We have sub-con process. we will send 'COMPONENT1' of 100 quanity to sub-con vendor and he will send 60- 80 qunaitys of FG1 & 40 to 20 quanitys of FG2 to us but unfortunately we will not know in-advance exact quntitys of FG1 & FG2. Now, if we receive FG1 different price and FG2 have different price. So our PO price does not match with Invoice price. Please explain in detials how to model this secnario.
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Ramó -
good morning all,
we are in buisness with Projects and do the MRP on project based.
i have a query.
all of you know that if Purchase order comes through MRP then it shows account assignment catagory and G/L account number. when we run mrp system creates SUB con Pr and with that POs are get create. that time system shows account assignment catagory Q ( as MRP is on Project base) & item catagory L. But G/L account number shows is stck of semi finished goods. Is it right ?
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Ram -
my client running fg sub contracting (electro plating )cycle through the MRP
after return from vendor with mvt type 105 (543) i check document list with MB51. i found following g/l account effects :
SFG consumption for sub contract account = 602026
Gr/IR Clearing Account = 164335
SFG-inventory account = 323055
for sub contract account = 602130
Inventory account = 320010
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but if do whole sub contracting cycle without MRP i can see effect in following G/L a/C:
Manual Cycle .
Inventory account = 320010
Gr/IR Clearing Account = 164335
Price Differance Account = 602155
change in stock = 603010
Sub Contract expense = 603000
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my question is why this differance comes ?
if i want gl accounts hit by manual process in MRP process what changes to be made ?Hi
Kindly check with the following:
In customizing for that plant price differences should or not be posted during GR.
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Costing run with values for material from info record.
Hi All
there is requirement with my client, that when i run my costing run the values of the components in BOM should be from the latest purchase order.
For this i am maintined valuation criteria as price from info record and sub strategy as gross price from PO.
When i am create a PO the info record is created automatically in background. So when i run costing run the value is picked correctly.
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Can any one help me out in resolving this issue. Its critical.
Regards
RakeshHi!
Generally first info records will be created with vendor, then PO will be created, based on info records price, price will be updated in PO.
If you have more than one vendor for same material, you have to create info records for each vendor. then you need to maintain source list, where you can fix the vendor. If there is no fix vendor, then you can do schedule agreement with vendors, where you have to give proportionate percentages again each vendor.
Now for costing run :
1. if you have only one info record, the price will take from that info record.
2. if you have more than one info record, you need to mantain source list, where you can tick the fixed vendor, then system will take price from that vendor info record.
3. if there is no fixed vendor and you have maintained scehduel agreement with weightage to vendor, then higher percentage vendor info record price will be picked up.
4. if you have more info reocrds, not maintianed source list or schedule agreement, price will be picked up from first info record ( based on info record creation date).
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i think it is clear now.
regs,
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Hi,
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10 is freight cost (ZFR1 10%) Cost element 363170
5 is duty cost (Zduty lets say 0.5%) Cost element 363171
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I wanted to get this in cost component wise. Client does not want manual intervention so do not want to go for additive cost method
I had tried through Purchasing info record. I have maintained the valuation variant accordingly. Assigned correct sub strategy to it & also maintained delivery cost button in the same screen to assign conditions to origin group.
Also I had maintained purchasing info record through me11 ; mainteined conditions there.
These above mentioned cost elements are mapped in cost component structure in T code OKTZ. Seperately for material ,freight &; duty
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I was waiting for your reply.
As mentioned by you, I have mapped my cost component structure like Raw material, Freigh, Duty & assigned the corresponding cost elements to it.. But still in itemisation view it shows three values
consumption cost element 355100 - 100
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consumption cost element 355100 -5 (which should go to Duty component where I have assigned the Duty cost element)
FI entries are getting posted correctly. Values are flown to coresponding cost elements.
For the time being We will keep duty part side. We are discussing with client on this.
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CO/PP - Costing run - raw material cost component
Hi
In the costing run how raw material cost is taken?
is it the material moving price/
or calculated separately?
Please helpi think this depends on the costing variant defined in the order type
in the costing variant, this come from the valuation variant
for process orders you may check the following txns COR4, OPL1, OPN2 -
How purchasing master data setup impact CO costing run
Dear all,
Question 1:
Could somebody out there, if you have this area of integration knowledge with CO, tell me the detail process and logic of how, when a costing run is perform, the master data in the Material master fields of Procurement Type and Special Procurement Type; Purchasing Information Records; and Source List impact the successful of costing run?
Question 2:
CO guy complaints that there are missing PIR and source list for following type of material setup in material master:
A) procurement type - F, Special procurement - blank (i.e. third party)
B) procurement type - F, Special procurement - NON-blank (i.e. can be intercompany, subcontract, vendor consignment),
Hence Costing run unable to determine the price. Is it a valid complaints
Regards,
DanielHi,
Though Costing is realted to the price control , cost lot size and valuation class in Material master.
It almost equvalent dependent on Special Procurement type also is costing view and MRP view.
Do refer the effect of special procurement type in costing in belowHelp Link
https://help.sap.com/saphelp_46c/helpdata/en/7e/cb7f5643a311d189ee0000e81ddfac/content.htm
Do refer the basisc of standarad costing estimates in below Link
Basics of SAP Standard Cost estimate- Understanding the flow of cost settings-Part 1 -
Hi
What is the difference between cost estimate and costing run?
Thanks,
NiviHello Ram,
There are 3 steps in Costing Procedure. They are
1. Creation of cost estimate
2. Marking of cost estimate
3. Release of cost estimate
Once you release cost estimate, then only system will update the required fields in the database and can be used for transactions.
Hence, cost estimate means, it is just estimated total cost of the product and Costing Run means which inclusive of all the above three steps to complete the total process.
Please let me know if you require any further clarifications.
Thank you,
Regards,
Santosh
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Restrict all goods movements for materials untill the latest costing run ex
Hi dudes,
1 here i have a requirement that i need to restrict all goods movements in the month for all materials(SFG,FG) untill the latest costing run(standard cost estimate) on 1st of each month.
2. Can we restrict the status of process order in such a way that Conformation can be done only after the goods issues against production order. The goods receipt can be done only after the conformation of the process order.
Thanks in advance.
Robert.Robert,
Procedurally you can block, by not opening the current period, before the costing run is completed, just when you wanted to release the cost estimate, at that time you can lock all users and then open the next period and then release your cost estimate and then unlock all the users. You need to work with your Basis/MM/FICO guys to have this procedure implemented.
On the GI Check before confirmation and Confirmation check before GR, you can use Confirmation and GR releated User exits to check. There are many posts on this topic, a simple search on this forum would take you to the thread.
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Prasobh -
Sub contract process with excise documents
Hi
I have a scenario in my project
MUM1- Mumbai plant
IN01 -Vadodara Plant
Mumbai is used only as a store for raw material (imported/Local)
Process is from Mumbai raw material (child component) is to be shipped to sub con vendor (1000) any where in India Ex -->Banglore
After processing Subcon vendor(1000) will send finish component to IN01 vadodara plant.
How the process will be mapped for Excise documentation.
required is Cenvat credit flow from Mumbai to Vadodara.
Regards
Ajit khi
Subcontracting under Full Payment of Duty
u2022 Creation of Subcontracting PO (ME21N)
here give the delivery add of vadodara palnt ,and the vendor of banglore
u2022 Transfer Posting of Components to Subcontractor (MB1B/ME2O/MIGO)
u2022 Creation of Outgoing Excise Invoice w.r.t. Transfer Posting Document (J1IS) - Used to send the components to Subcontractor's. Here 57F4 Challan is not created.
Accounting Entry: -
CENVAT Input BED - Cr
CENVAT Input ECS - Cr
CENVAT Input ECS - Cr
CENVAT Suspense A/c - Dr
u2022 Capture Vendor Excise Invoice at the time of GR of Finished Goods w.r.t. Subcontracting PO (MIGO)
u2022 Post Excise Invoice for FG received from Subcontractor (J1IEX)
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CENVAT Input BED - Dr
CENVAT Input ECS - Dr
CENVAT Input ECS - Dr
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u2022 ME11 - Purchase Inforecord for Subcontracting
regards
kunal
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Issue with Sub-Con PO (543 O movement)
Hi All,
I find that system is not posting 543 O movement for individual components when i do a GR for sub-con PO Material. I am following the steps below.
1. GI of components to Sub-Con PO thru' ME2o (System records a 541 movement for the components).
2. GR of Sub-Con PO thru' MB01 (101 mvt.) But the system does not post a 543 O movement for the components.
3. Also in ME2o when i check for these components, i notice the output still shows these components, although the stock is '0'.
Await inputs.
VivekHi All,
Sorry for the late response. But after a detailed study, i notice this error is because, the user has actually transfered items which have bulk material indicator using MB1B by mistake, so when a GR for the material is done, system is not considering these bulk materials & hence no 543 O is posted.
Also these stocks are shown as lying with the vendor.
Now the dilemma is how to ensure these items are actually transferred to the respective finished assy & ensure that the costing of the assy is revised. If it is not possible, can i just post a 542 & reverse back these postings, will it have any financial impact? In terms of costing of the finished assembly which we received from sub-contractor will it have any impact?
Also would like to know any standard tx which displays stock @ sub-contractor by PO or any user-exits available for this?
Anyone to help on this?
Edited by: Vivek on May 7, 2008 3:02 PM
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