CRIO PN (Profinet) from Comsoft

Anyone know when the product is going to be released? On the Comsoft website the 2010 press release states available soon.
http://www.comsoft.de/html/icpe/press/releases/2010/cRIO_PN.htm
Is Comsoft going to make a PCI or PCIe version of this for ETS?

I have spoken to Comsoft regarding this matter and they state that it will be sold and branded as a NI product. It will be released as soon as it passes NI's tests. October perhaps.
The PCI/PCI-X version is under development and will be released next year.
/Roger

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Hi Maxwell,
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CRio cannot found in distributed manager system

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https://www.dropbox.com/s/yr0hejj0z9xse1y/example.png
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https://www.dropbox.com/s/npxascuimdfkca7/Untitled.jpg
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Good morning Ipshita_C,
Thank you for your response. What
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I have siemens plc s7-300 and labview how can i communiction between plc and s7-300

Hi all good morning
iam new user for labview
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Dear vijaynagar,
it would be posible to communicate with our Comsoft PROFIBUS products like DF PROFI II, FNL or cRIO PB.
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P.S. If you have any questions feel free to contact: [email protected]

Profibus communication error

Hello all,
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We used a PLC to connect test and configure and everything works fine. The same GSD file was downloaded and the software from comsoft was loaded with all appropriate drivers of LV12. When only one module is connected as shown in figure the drive connects properly and in online mode it shows green as shown in figure.
But when more than one module is connected in the window it shows blue and in diagnostics report it says 'station not ready' and 'Cfg error' as shown in figure. Could you kindly suggest something .
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Shreyas Hebbare
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Associating my CompactRIO to a computer/device name on the network

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Hello Proengin,
First of all don't hesitate next time to post your message on Real-Time Measurement and Control . It will be maybe easier to get an answer.
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Concerning the second part, you won't be able to make your cRIO appearing as a computer or a device on the network because it's a real-time target and not a Windows device for example.
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Send data with profibus (Newbie)

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//Johan
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Waldemar,
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Profibus data type converting to floating point

Hi,
Is there an efficient way to convert the incoming data to the floating point in the NI cRIO Profibus system?
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2) We are using profibus slave example and are able to see a array of unsigned 8 bit data. Please see the Output data shown in the attachement.
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Install software on ni-9024

Hello all,
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I am really confused about why this is happening. Hopefully I have explained my problem well enough. I don't really want to post the entire project on here, but I can email it to people if they are willing to take a look at it. Thank you for taking the time to read this.
I am running LabVIEW 2010 SP1 with the Real-time, FPGA, DSC, and Robotics modules. I have the Feb '11 driver set and NI-RIO 3.6.0 installed and all completed updated on my RT cRIO.
Solved!
Go to Solution.

I do this type of stuff all the time...
Move all your NSV libraries to the cRIO. From the project you must deploy to the cRIO and from then on they are persistant until you reformat.
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Profibus Communication

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Regards,
Jagadish.

Hello!
I have never worked with Profibus before but I did some searches about the product you are using and on the manufacturers website I found the following:
http://www.comsoft.de/html/icpe/profibus/addons/visa.htm
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Thank you.
Shazlan

Some are slow changing (status, alarms, etc.) and some are fast (high priority commands, feedbacks). I've read that Beckhoff has this Ethercat bridge that allow multiple masters but we are not sure whether it can be integrated with NI's or not. Currently, we have opted for OPC (for slow changing) & DIO (for fast changing).
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PLC SIMATIC s7-300 with adaptater MPI-USB under Labview

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SIMATIC S7-300 directly to my PC ( without using a profibus card ) , so
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