Curve levels in Motion 3.0

Hi(Bonjour)!
What is the equivalent of curve levels in Motion ?
Michel Boissonneault

There's a Levels filter under Filters > Color Correction, but it just has sliders - there is no Curves equivalent.

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Curve/Level RGB Doesn't Change Individual Channels

Weird. When I adjust slider in Levels or point in Curves using the RGB master (default), and then go to the individual color channels, none of them have changed at all. Has anyone else seen this behavior?

prismarama wrote:
... don't understand why changes to the RGB composite don't change the individual channels. ...
the sliders do not represent the image which is reflected in the histogram, but the changes you have made and about to commit if you press OK. Refer to the preview (not the sliders) if you want to know how the image will be affected.

Actions not recording curve/levels adjustments or presets

Hi
I'm trying to record an action in Photoshop CC, but it seems to refuse to record adjustments or the selection of a saved preset.
All I get when I play the action, is a new curves or levels layer without my adjustments.
Hope someone can help.
/Martin

I am having the exact same problem. Other adjustment layers when changed record a "set current layer" but loading a preset or making a change on the curve is not being recorded at all. Tried deleting my prefs and that didn't solve anything. Would love an answer to this!

RGB Curves / Levels

Having used Lightroom since it was in beta - pre version 1 release - there is one feature that I find myself swapping to Photoshop for more than anything else.
That is the levels adjustment layers and auto levels feature. Specifically, the ability to control not just the overall levels but the levels of each of the RGB channels.
I find the curves adjustment in Lightroom far easier to use than the curves in Photoshop, so if Lightroom's curves could do RGB as well as overall I would be very happy.
I find it strange that the Lightroom histogram shows levels for RGB and CMYK but you cannot control them...

Simon, I see what you're saying, but there are features in Lightroom as it stands that probably aren't used by the majority of users. I know I rarely use some options in the develop module.
I think if an 'auto levels' option, like in Photoshop, was available this would please a lot of users who think the current auto tone options don't always fit the job.
If you have an 'auto adjust' button you then have two basic options: 1) undo the changes, 2) accept the changes. You also have a third, more advanced option of accepting the changes and 'tweaking' the settings to your hearts content.
Your average user, myself included, would most frequently use the first two options, saving time and disk space of editing in PS.
Unless there are other ways to remove colour casts from images? As an example, I recently took photos which included lots of snow with clear blue skies. They were too blue all over for my liking and the white balance in LR didn't do it. I export to PS and auto level, slight tweak and I'm happy.
This would probably require a bunch of changes to Adobe Camera RAW, so probably not an option for the current version. Would be nice to have the option, or indeed an SDK in future releases.
Cheers, Damon.

Are there any levels or curves in FCPX?

It looks like it would at the very least support creating a Levels effect in motion and bringing that across, but what happens is the GUI loses the histogram and the effect itself doesn't work (it just causes a blank out on the media). So is there any other way of doing this?
This seems like a bit of a draconian omission since removing the Color app which had both these and much more, right now color correction and control in FCPX seems nearly non-existant.
As much as I like many other changes to the timeline and rendering process in FCPX the gaps are large and juddering.

Hi Steve, like your hint for motion. I have both FCPX and MOTION 5, and have started to like the effects builder in Motion that appears in FCPX. But are you saying there is a method to send a FCPX project into motion for "Serious" color editing and then back to FCPX again, with the filters and adjustment options?
If so, thats a rather akward but cool solution.
Would love to see how you did that.
Cause I agree, that FCPX and color editing may be full of power, but lacking options... I mean basic basic 1-2-3 everyday video editing options like Curves, Levels, etc...
Atb Sofus

Shake, After Effects, Motion?

Is Shake equivalent to After Effects? Also, where does Motion fall into the scheme of things. Im trying to understand what the differences is between all 3 of these programs. I have no experience with any of them. Can someone explain and suggest what they think is the best program to learn?

Well,
There are many things that all 3 apps can do that are either equal or similar.
You can key, composite and generate, to a degree, in all. Each do things better than the others.
AE and Motion are layer based apps (like Photoshop).
Shake is node based.
AE and Motion do particles and text effects really well out of the box.
Over on mograph.net the same question was just asked. Below are some of the responses:
Shake is really great at:
Using one object to matte many things at once- no pre-composing, no unneccesary multiple matte layers.
Compositing files that contain z-depth information in z-space.
Complex keying and color correction.
Floating color calculations (for example, multiple instances of brightness contrast, hue saturation, curves, levels, and other color correcters are all calculated together as one operation, so the image doesn't get crunchy and lose it's integrity).
It has arguably the best written software manual EVER. Seriously.
It's really non-linear.
It's more suited towards compositing and finishing, and less towards graphics content creation. If you are switching from AE to Shake, download the AE plugins for shake from High End 2D.
And:
IMO shake is good at tuning fine color corrections, 3d composite, roto and tracking.
And:
Shake is good at setting up things at the core of what Compositing is all about. Concatenation and Piping nodes together. It seems to be more of a VFX kinda tool. I couldn't see design type or anything to mograph with it.
But it does do some cool things that in AE takes longer or can't do. Like being able to offset the tracker and the roto tool. You can link a tracker to a mask point.

What are resources that one has to use motion control in LabView?

I am a newbie at Labview and I am trying to get a stepper motor to drive a shaft for one rotation (the shaft is attached to a bearing which will rotate a laser around a fixed object in the center). I am very limited in experience and I am wondering if ValueMotion is the way to go. Do you have to purchase the PC controller from NI to use value or flex motion? It would appear that using the intialization and setup VI's that ship with LV 6i would be the easiest and quickest route.
What demos/programs for labview will be best in helping me in my efforts? I have yet to even select the controller or stepper motor for this application.

Hello Graymalkin79...
LabVIEW and an NI motion controller for your PC are an excellent combination for the application that you describe. To answer your specific questions...Yes the ValueMotion and FlexMotion VI's require a PC based controller from NI. For your application, either the 7334 stepper controller (ValueMotion) or the 7344 step/servo controller (FlexMotion) will do the trick. For straighforward stepper control as you describe in your application, ValueMotion is fine and the VI's for init, setup and operation should have you up and running quickly. FlexMotion provides a significant level of motion capability and overall system integration that may enhance your total application, but that's difficult to determine from your brief description.
Most
any Stepper Motor requires a power driver unit like the MID7602, and the selection of this component really depends on the motor that you choose and its associated torque and speed requirements in your system.
Both ValueMotion and FlexMotion VI libraries provide motion demos that you can use interactively as well as VI's that you can integrate into your overall laser based LabVIEW application.

Wish list in next version: Curves. It's Missing.

Hello,
I purchased Aperture and like many attributes of the software. Great job! I would like to see Curves in the next version. I know I can go to adjust in Curves in Photoshop, but that will covert the RAW image into a .tif or .psd which takes up more space. Why not just have Curves in Aperture?
Great job with Highlight recovery and shadow recovery. Especially Highlight recovery which gives a pleasing feel of tone to an image that just clipped the highlight detail! Didn't get that pleasing subtle tone in Lightroom.

I never cared for the Curves UI in PS. I'm also not thrilled with the Levels UI in Aperture. You can certainly get good work done with both styles but for me, and this is subjective, neither is a particularly elegant solution.
I'll preface this next statement with the fact that I own Aperture, and I DON'T own Adobe's Lightroom. I've recently had the opportunity to play a bit with LR, and the Tone Curve UI (Curves/Levels) is a joy to use. It's very intuitive, powerful and there are a number of ways to make your adjustments. The UI just gets out of your way, and you can focus in on the results. It is, IMO, a superb tool for refining tones in an image. I would love to see Aperture develop an interface for Levels that was more like the Tone Curves interface in LR.

Motion Paths

when I create a motion path, Motion has this annoying habit of creating a default path that starts in the middle of the canvas and ends one canvas length away from its origin.
I'd like to have it so my path originates in the middle of the affected layer. How can I make this happen? Also, how can I add points to my motion path's bezier curve?

The motion path behavior's default path always begins at the layer's current position. That is typically the center of the layer (unless the layer is text or you've moved the layers anchor point).
You can always draw a bezier shape and then assign that as your "motion path" in the behavior parameters. When you create a bezier shape, you can right-click any point in the shape and assign it as your "start point"
Andy

PS CS3 curves use of auto yields RGB neg image

Image goes from RGB to RGB neg withuse of auto on curves, levels, auto contrast etc. Example shown

You can set the defaults by going to Image> Adjust > Levels and clicking on "Options".
Mine look like this:
And similarly for the others.
If that doesn't work, try resetting your preferences as described in the FAQ.
http://forums.adobe.com/thread/375776?tstart=0
You either have to physically delete (or rename) the preference files or, if using the Alt, Ctrl, and Shift method, be sure that you get a confirmation dialog.
This resets all settings in Photoshop to factory defaults.
(A complete uninstall/re-install will not affect the preferences and a corrupt file there may be causing the problem.)

Knitting machines motion control system

Hi,
My question is related to the Textile industry application. We are working on a servo mechanism of a knitting machine for textile industry. Is there anybody can help me in giving some of the similar applications tailor made using NI motion platforms? Typical motor parameters are enclosed. We need to workout a miniaturized motion solution which is a part of knitting machine. This knitting machine is responsible in identifying any broken strings.
Quick response is highly appreciated.
Rao
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Rao,
could you please provide some information about the typical motion control tasks, that are required for your application? How many axes are involved? What type of synchronisation do you need (vector spaces, camming, gearing,...)? How fast do your axes move?
Do you have experience with NI products like LabVIEW, NI-SoftMotion and cRIO?
I don't have any experience with knitting machines, but I have a decent level of motion control related project experience. So if you could help me to better understand your application's requirements and your individual backgroudn with NI products, this will help me to give you better advice.
Thanks and kind regards,
Jochen Klier
National Instruments

Smoothing keyframe motion

I'm playing with curving/beliziar keyframe motions for the first time. I'm working in FCP5.
I have one video clip, scaled to 40%, it starts on the left side of the screen,
moves to the center, then goes straight up and off the top of the screen.
No problem doing it with "hard" motions.
But, how do make it into a curved motion...meaning instead of going hard
straight to the center of the screen and then up, as it's moving towards
the center of the screen it starts to smoothly curve upwards so it's not
a hard hit in the center and then up,...but more like a swoop up.
I've tried adding a SMOOTH to the centering keyframe but it won't let me,
and I'm not changing scale during the move.
Any input would be appreciated. Thanks.

right click or control click on your center motion point in the canvas and select "linear". It will change to a bezier point.
N

How does Motion 2 compare to After Effects?

I have used After Effects in school but now that I am using FCP instead of AVID I was thinking that it'd probably be a good idea to switch over.
I mainly want to use Motion 2 for adding filter effects and transistions to my videos. Is the connectivity between FCP and Motion such a boon that I should learn how to use it?
From messing around in Motion I've found that it seems much more complicated than After Effects and a bit more unwieldy (but I've barely scratched the surface).
When I looked at what has been added in Motion 3 I was a bit upset that I bought FCS1 a couple months before 2 came out. Motion 3 seems to be much improved, but alas, it's too late.

I agree. I too am in the job market and find that there are more jobs that ask for After FX experience than Motion. Having learned both, I made the decision of just working with Motion and developing my skills to a higher level.
Motion is way more enjoyable to work with. I produce faster with it and it does just about everything that After FX can do. If it doesn't...I go to Shake 4.1. Shake has a much better keyer than After FX. You can combine Primate and Keylight together and get much better results than After FX. I even like the work flow better in Shake than I do in After FX.
I find that, for some reason, I am more creative in Motion than After Effects. It just flows nicer for me I quess. As far as intergration with Flash, there honestly isn't that much difference. While After FX imports and exports .swf and .flv files....Motion or should I say Quicktime exports to .flv. Both produce large file sizes...I think Motion was a few kb smaller than After FX....I usually end up exporting small image sequences with a alpha channel into Flash. Both Motion and After Effects export image sequences.
Once Motion 3 is out and stable, I think the gap will be alot closer to After FX. I am going to the Final Cut Studio 2 on tour in NYC on Tues, I'll be sure to ask about cast shadows! How can you leave that out?
As far as getting jobs, I want to find a company that uses Macs and Final Cut in their workflow. Companies that use PC have no choice but to use After FX....Who wants to work on a PC!
Best Regards,
Ed
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Smart Objects: RGB inside CMYK

Just two days before completing a two week job the client decided (still dont know why) the job had to be delivered with open layers on CMYK.
After two weaks and 6 jobs and hundred of layers latter had almost all work done..in RGB. I started to panic thinking of the time I would waste just appling curves,levels,etc... to every layer,while keeping things open if they wanted last minute changes.
Thats when it struck me..why not leaving everything as it was (RGB) and convert it to a smart object and then convert the parrent file to CMYK?
I has suprised how it works just fine.In the end the client agreed it was better to keep things as they were,but it sounds a really nice possibility and to some extend makes perfect sense as one would retain the full Gamut of RGB (AdobeRGB or any other) and could convert to proper CMYK acording to needs.
As anyone experienced this?

Mark -
There are a few gross errors in Photoshop that are seen as bugs, but go uncorrected for years due to the amount of work needed to fix them - not to mention - get it worked into the correction cycle in development. Marketing is steering the train. Go think about that oxymoron for a few weeks...
;o)
One major problem is the conundrum of being able to open an untagged file, assign a color space, then look at it. That in itself is counter intuitive and basically a HUGE hole in the application with respect to color management. With the new proposed architecture of creating the entire application Smart Photoshop - You not only eliminate this issue, but also have created a new and improved workflow - integrating source color images into the working space, tagged or untagged, with consistency for all. Adobe products are now far and wide enough to have the majority rule, so why not capitalize on it and implement a global workflow. This logic works for many industries Adobe serves. From 2d, 3d to motion video, cell phone, bio medical, and who knows what's next. It's image history preservation in its simple form.
In English, whittle down 9 options to 2 for color policies and change the logic between RGB and CMYK file handling. Convert to working space. Have the working space 32 bit Pro Photo RGB. Files flow into it as well as color space conversions. Now remember, this is a choice feature and not a force fit. It's a marketing born inception that caters to the masses for best practice. If you want to work outside that environment, its your choice, but it's not advisable unless you are resurrecting trash, re-assigning really bad pictures, or it does not work for your requirement and a new additional per-dim needs to be created. I'm offering a choice. Two choices to be specific. Road or off road travel. For here now, and tomorrow. It's a creature of growth, just like the implementation of Smart Objects that has morphed more possibilities as well as options. But Smart Objects is a representation of Adobe's expanded free for all mentality to push the envelope of development for market share. My advice is to back on the whizz bang wow factor and get some damn control of the features grained in deep rooted experience from power users....
Smart Photoshop is needed because users are not getting it Gentleman and Ladies. Expecting most users to become geeks is not going to happen. It's a given from a marketing stand point, but they refuse to see how to address it for one reason or another. Maybe too busy dealing with the company merge and product integration. Im pretty sure its quite an undertaking, but its time to make the best - better....
I remember Bruce Fraser talking about Chris and Thomas wanting 12 ish choices for color policies fearing too much restrain for growth. Thank you Bruce for 9, but my friend, we need even less.... Smart Photoshop gives 2 choices. Structure or Chaos. Right now we only have chaos. My vote is to have uniformity with very little user understanding and awareness. That's good implementation. The software has to become intelligent people.....
I'm game. Who has balls here?
nice to see ur pair Rich.

Aperture 3.1 available now!

It would appear that more than a few issues have been resolved in the latest update!
See http://support.apple.com/kb/TS2518 for the full release notes.
Aperture 3.1 Release Notes
This update improves overall stability and performance, and addresses compatibility with iLife '11. It also includes a number of specific fixes in the following areas:
Library
Improves performance when opening large libraries.
Fixes an issue that could prevent thumbnails from being properly rendered when reprocessing masters.
Addresses reliability and performance issues when running Repair Database and Rebuild Database operations in Aperture Library First Aid.
Improves reliability of upgrading libraries with images containing Spot & Patch adjustments.
Improves accuracy of the progress bars displayed when updating Vaults.
Adjustments
Addresses performance issues when exporting heavily-adjusted images, particularly those with Highlights & Shadows, Definition, Noise Reduction, Edge Sharpen, Sharpen, Skin Smoothing, or Blur.
Addresses performance when using Core Image filters such as Curves, Levels, and Highlights & Shadows.
Eliminates black “halos” that could appear in areas of extreme luminance in scaled images in the Viewer.
Addresses quality issues with Red Eye correction.
Fixes an issue in the Adjustment Presets editor that could cause the names of adjustments within a preset to temporarily appear blank.
Addresses performance issues with using the Straighten tool on adjusted images.
Straighten grid now appears correctly after applying and resetting a crop.
Fixes issues that could cause Aperture to stop responding or quit unexpectedly when processing an image with Sharpen applied.
Addresses an issue that could reduce image quality on straightened photos.
Fixes an issue that could prevent data from being properly entered into numeric fields in the Adjustments HUD.
Addresses an issue that sometimes prevented the correct cursor from appearing after choosing a Quick Brush
Fixes a problem that caused the Master Aspect Ratio setting to fail if used in combination with the "create new versions when making adjustments" preference.
Fixes an issue that could cause Aperture to stop responding when making adjustments to images in a stack if the “create new versions when making adjustments” option was chosen.
Thumbnails and previews now display correctly for images that are flipped and rotated.
When reprocessing masters, Aperture now displays a progress bar with a count indicating the number of images remaining to be processed.
Addresses performances issues when zooming images to 100%.
Faces
Fixes an issue that could cause some file tiles to be rotated incorrectly.
Addresses performance issues when loading thumbnails in Faces view.
Improves reliability of face detection and naming when working with RAW+JPEG pairs.
Addresses an issue that could result in “blank” face thumbnails in Faces view.
When in Confirm Faces mode, the contextual menu now correctly includes the “Not a face” option.
The Confirm Faces mode can now be updated and refreshed by holding down the Option key while clicking the Done button.
Dragging multiple snapshots on the Faces corkboard now correctly moves all the selected snapshots.
The “include face info in exported photos” option now exports Face names as keywords when exporting masters, writing IPTC to masters, or exporting metadata.
Printing
Fixes an issue that caused the wrong color profile to be used when previewing an image using the Loupe in the Print dialog.
Addresses an issue that could cause a thin black line to appear on the top edge of some prints.
Slideshows
Addresses an issue that could cause photo effects applied to images in slideshows to persist even after being removed.
When exporting a slideshow, the Custom option now includes a Quality pop-up menu in order to control compression quality/size of resulting H.264 or MPEG-4 files.
Fixes a problem that could cause the audio browser to display improperly when creating a slideshow.
Slideshows can now be exported using presets for compatibility with Apple TV and iPad.
Fixes an issue that could produce incorrect results when the start and end positions of a Ken Burns setting were swapped in the slideshow editor.
Adding an inset to a photo in a Classic and Ken Burns slideshow no longer changes the width of a border applied to the same photo.
Choosing "Fit Selected Slides to Main Audio Track" no longer unnecessarily reduces the length of video clips contained within the slideshow.
Deselecting the custom duration set for a select slide by deselecting the “Play slide for” checkbox now correctly returns the slide’s duration to its default value.
Places
Fixes an issue that could produce inaccurate results when assigning photos to a GPS track path.
Metadata Inspector can now display GPS Direction if this data is available in geotagged photos.
Addresses an issue that could prevent imported track paths from appearing in the Tracks & Waypoints menu after restarting the application.
Metadata
The Keyword HUD now displays a count for the number of times each keyword has been used in a library.
Fixes an issue that could cause duplicate keywords to appear after merging a library.
Fixes an issue that could prevent photos with an IPTC Subject Code to export correctly when exporting masters with the “Create IPTC4XMP Sidecar File" option enabled.
Fixes an issue that caused Longitude data to export incorrectly when using the Export > Metadata command.
The Date Created field in IPTC Core can now be activated and set by simply clicking in the field.
Auto-complete of contact info in IPTC Contact fields can now be enabled or disabled in Preferences.
Metadata Inspector now includes a Sharing view which logs when each photo is published to MobileMe, Facebook, or Flickr.
General
The application now displays a progress dialog when opening or switching between libraries.
Fixes an issue that disabled browser scrolling when in Split View with sort and filter controls hidden.
Addresses quality issues in connection with rendering of images scaled to below 100% in the Viewer.
Fixes an issue that could cause the "Loading" indicator in the Viewer to disappear before images were actually loaded.
Activity window can now be opened by pressing Command-Shift-0 (zero).
Photos displayed in the iLife Media Browser on Mac OS X v10.6.x Snow Leopard now retain their sort order from Aperture.
Photos synced to iPod, iPhone, iPad and Apple TV are now sorted in date order by default.
Search
Addresses issues to improve performance when searching libraries containing a large number of keywords.
File Type query now correctly supports search for RAW+JPEG.
Import
Fixes an issue that could prevent all photos and videos from loading in the Import window when importing from iPhone or iPad.
Duplicate detection now correctly works with imported audio and video files.
Images in BMP format can now be imported.
Aperture now correctly rotates square images cropped in-camera from Olympus E-P1 and E-P2 models when imported.
Tethering
Images captured during a tethered session no longer appear in the Import window, unless they are actually stored on the camera's memory card.
Fixes an issue that caused a "Missing" badge to temporarily appear on some images imported via tethering.
Addresses an issue that disabled tethered capture via FireWire on Snow Leopard.
iPhoto Import
Images from an iPhoto library that are imported as referenced files can now be correctly accessed and relinked using the Locate Referenced Files command.
Smart Albums created using Faces in an iPhoto 8 library are now correctly displayed when imported into Aperture.
Portrait-oriented photos contained in an iPhoto 8 library are now correctly rotated when the library is imported into Aperture.
Photos marked as “hidden” in an iPhoto 8 library are now imported with a “rejected” tag when the library is imported into Aperture.
Export
Fixes an issue that could cause images exported as TIFFs to have an incorrect dpi setting.
Addresses issues that could slow performance when exporting a large number of projects as a new library.
Fixes an issue that could cause the "Consolidate masters into exported library" option to not complete when exporting projects to a new library.
Exported libraries now correctly include all pre-defined Library Smart Albums such as “★ ★ ★ ★ ★” and “★ or better.”
Web sharing
Improves memory management when publishing to MobileMe.
Supports multiple MobileMe, Facebook, and Flickr accounts for compatibility with iLife ’11.
Enables publishing to Facebook Wall and Flickr Photostream.
MobileMe, Facebook, and Flickr accounts can now be individually enabled or disabled in each Aperture Library.
Photos downloaded from MobileMe albums are now copied when imported into Aperture projects.
Video
When Aperture attempts to open an unsupported video format, it now correctly prompts you to open the file using QuickTime via Finder.
Fixes an issue that could cause videos to flicker when multiple videos were selected in the Viewer.
Books
Improves scaling of images when photos placed in book layouts have an effective resolution of 110 dpi or less.
Plug-ins
Addresses an issue that could cause export plug-ins to use the wrong Aperture export preset when exporting files.

Oh, baby! This bad boy flies!! Here's what to expect:
I had 40,000 images in Aperture 3 and it was dog slow at everything. I installed 3.1 update today. It took 5 minutes to update the database and then behaved marginally better than before at ASIC library navigation. I was disappointed.
Then I QUIT the app. It took a couple of hours to "update files for sharing" with a counter that went to 110,000 images. So it must have updated every thumbnail and variation of preview. Turned it back on , and BAM. Came up fully in seconds. Paused for 10 seconds ten everything was lickrty split. For the first time ever, I can use the Projects view with all 791 projects and scroll quickly. I even put it in photos modevand whipped thru all 49,000 images!
Haven't done anybprocessing yet, but i'm liking it!!
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