Customer Care Pro Department: Fact or Fiction

Is this a real dept at Verizon?
Here is my story:
So my daughter’s iPhone 4 was stolen. I did online chat and
visited a store and received conflicting information regarding replacing the
phone. I decided to call customer care to see if I could get a definitive
answer and honestly maybe a courtesy service (i.e. extend my current contract
for an additional two years or use an existing $300 promotional credit I have on
one of my lines toward the non 4g iPhone 4). Basically, I did nothing but waste
my time.
When I called customer care and sat on hold for 5 minutes or
more, I explained my entire situation to the rep that answered. She offered all
the standard options of buy a new phone at full retail, buy a phone from ebay,
buy a $300 certified pre-owned iPhone, etc… I explained that none of those
really sounded good to me and I wanted to know if there were possibly any other
options. She said she could not do anything but would transfer me to someone
who could. On hold again, then explained to another young lady the entire
situation all over again. She said something could be worked out but it had to
be handled by another dept and she would transfer me. CLICK and then I here an automated
voice asking for my 10 digit number which I entered. Pressed whatever digit was
appropriate and got the “Sorry this dept is closed” message. Frustrated, I call
back and wait through the holding period again, explain what just happened and
ask to be transferred. I am told there is no need for that, “Just tell me what
is going on so I can get a good understanding.” AGAIN I tell the whole story
and we review the options and she says “Well, let me put you on hold and see
what I can do.” She never comes back. I hung up after 45min.
Following morning (today) I live chat and ask for a different
number than 800-922-0204 but apparently no other one exists. Call back, another
holding period, explain EVERYTHING AGAIN, reviewed the standard options, and
finally was told that I would be transferred to the “customer care pro dept”
(finally got the name of this magical place). So of course I explain it all again.
I even mention how the very first person I contacted (via chat) said that I
should insure the phone since it is open enrollment. “Just be sure you don’t
file your claim on the same call “ (the live chat person really included the winky face).
The customer care pro said that definitely should not have been advised and apologized
for that and all of the other misinformation that I had received but unfortunately, the standard
options are my only options. I begged and pleaded for some type of exception or
courtesy but got absolutely nothing.
I then offered to purchase a tablet since I am in the market for
one anyway. I understood that I would have to pay full price for the tablet and
place it on the existing line of the stolen phone and change that monthly
access from $40 to $10. Then I could activate a new line and get the two year
contract price on one of the iPhones with $40 monthly access. If I were to do
this, all I ask is that the activation fee be waived. “That is a standard fee
that can’t be waived.” I asked if the upgrade fee was standard and was told yes
but it was not something I was being charged. I then explained that I have had
that fee waived before and she responded “You can’t expect that every time and
what I meant was I am not going to waive it.”
And that was the straw… I will be checking into moving all of my
lines to another carrier especially since they are now offering rebates to
cover early termination fees.
Sad thing is Verizon didn’t technically do anything wrong other
than suggesting I commit insurance fraud and mention offers that are not
generally available unless you get the right person to authorize it. Their
customer service is just going down the drain.

No, here's the thing.  You DO get to post your rant on the forums.  However, others get to post their opinions, too, which might not agree with yours.
You might not think that you posted with a sense of entitlement, but let me point out where you did.
You asked for an exception.  You didn't get it.  You stated that "Basically, I did nothing but waste my time.', which implies that you were entitled to what you asked for.
Then you stated " I have had that fee waived before" (which likely is inaccurate because the upgrade fee is new).  And again, your request was denied to which you posted, "And that was the straw… I will be checking into moving all of my lines to another carrier "  No sense of entitlement there??
Verizon used to allow customers to "stack contracts", (ie enter into a new one before the old one was done and roll the old one into the new one) but they don't anymore.  But this resulted in people having longer and longer contract obligations which they then complained about as well.
Here's my two cents on things that YOU could have done to avoid this.
1. Have insurance on the phone.  Whether that be through Verizon/Asurion, or home owner's insurance, or some third party such as Square Trade. Or accept the responsibility for not having insurance which means that if the phone is lost or stolen or damaged, the user will have to take care of it out of pocket. Taking responsibility for oneself.
2. You could have gotten one of the Certified Pre-Owned Devices that the rep was offering.
3. You could have purchased a used device from a third party.
4. You could have purchased the tablet as you described and added another line WITHOUT expecting the fees to be waived.
I get it that you are frustrated, but some of it seems to be misplaced. 
And I get frustrated when people post their angry posts simply because their unreasonable requests/demands don't get filled.  People, in my opinion, should be reasonable and responsible which means (again in my opinion) fulfilling the contracts into which they voluntarily enter under the terms to which they agreed without expecting waivers or exceptions.

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    So ChristinaB_VZW replied to my post.  You would think I would get a little further help regarding my issue, correct?  WRONG!!!  I told her thank you for helping me and she asked me to reply back with my original message copied and pasted which I did on 4/8.  I waited until 4/17 and had not heard back so I responded back to her.  Still haven't heard anything from her.  Do they simply post on these forums so that customers have the appearance of receiving assistance so that in public it looks as though I've been helped when in actuality still nothing has been done.  I could understand if I was begging for a new phone or wanted $100's of dollars off my bill for no reason but I'm not.  I want the discount that I should be receiving as part of my VERIZON EDGE AGREEMENT.  This is the worst experience I've ever had with any kind of services for money.  I know one thing for a fact and that's one you are a customer you no longer matter.  So thank you ChristinaB_VZW for making Verizon appear to care about customer issues when in actuality they do not.  I will be sure to never recommend your services to anyone and to reference this issue and lack of customer support for that reason.

  • Canon: Best Cameras, but Worst Customer CARE?

    As a long-time lover of Canon's Powershot cameras, I've grown accustomed, and been quite willing to put up with, its user-unfriendly site, clunky software and various glitches and snags that come with getting set up.
    With the new SX700, another amazing camera in the series, Canon Image Gateway ("CIG") sounded ready enough to take the time to set it up, along with the wireless CameraWindow app on mobile devices. I'd like to emphasize how many years of great photos Canon has given our family on vacations and special occasions, because the rest of this is not especially pretty.
    Matters DID start well with the CameraWindow app. Installing it onto my S3 and Kindle Fire (side-loaded its apk) went smoothly. I can transfer images from camera to phone and tablet! Nice start, since it's a just a short hop from there to social-posting.
    [[ By the way, for those who use Kindle, I highly recommend the APK Downloader extension for Chrome (for when an app is not available for Kindle directly). I found it while searching for the APK for this Canon app.
    You enter the URL of the app (i.e., URL from Google Play). The app downloads the "official apk" to your desktop!
    Transfer the apk onto your Kindle and then install it using a file manager.
    You can count on the apk being virus-free since it comes from Google Play. Many apk sites don't have the more specialized-type of apps and there's always the worry about how clean their apks are. ]]
    But I digress...
    Back to Canon's Image Gateway. I should have stopped with CameraWindow on mobile devices, but was tempted by the ability to upload directly to social media from the camera via Canon's site (although it's not clear if it can do that in one-step).
    What a pain. Canon's site asks me (you, too?) to log in to CIG even though I've already logged in. I can access my account, see that my 700 is registered, etc., but I'm asked to login again.
    This would normally be just another one of Canon's inevitable glitches/low-usability issues (ex., one of its certificates is questioned by both Safari and Chrome with worrisome "careful" language, some parts are ambiguous and need figuring out, etc).
    But the really big issue is that when I DO try to login (when already logged in), I get this error page, no matter which browser I try...
    https://www.cig.usa.canon.com/error/general.html
    I've tried many workarounds, looking for backdoors that take advantage of the fact that I'm already logged in, even downloaded their Gateway Album app to see if that might find a backdoor to login to Canon Image Gateway (desperate, I know). Same result - the app won't even login.
    I finally(!) got the idea to see if was "just me" who couldn't figure this out. I did a search at Google for "cannot login to canon image gateway"...
    https://www.google.com/#q=cannot+login+to+canon+image+gateway
    This is, it seems, a BIG problem, especially when you consider that most folks just give up rather than come to forums, making what we see (here and in the Google search) just the tip of the iceberg. And it's been happening for many months.
    Canon gives a variety of excuses, ranging from "server down for weekend maintenance" to the user being in a foreign country (don't lots of people use their cameras when traveling? -- global access would surely be a big part of this?).
    Canon's basic strategy seems to be to bury the problem by telling folks to contact Support (whether it's at YouTube, their social media locations or here). Canon looks good by replying (and they do it religiously). If the intent was genuine, it would be admirable. But folks seem to enter a black hole and never come out.
    Where are the happy "thanks for fixing that for me" customers? Almost everyone complains that they wasted hours with Support, repeating the same troubleshooting that they'd already spent so much time on. Some report being told that they were the only ones with the problem, clearly not true.
    So I have no interest in wasting yet more of my time on this by contacting Support. (I did find one person who later managed to login, but that did not seem to be connected to his contacting Support, given the delay and lack of on-point communication from Canon.)
    This is a disrespectful-to-loyal-customers attitude, no way to handle what should be a very simple problem. It boils down to this...
    1) Logging into websites has been mastered by webmasters/sysadmins long ago.
    2) The Image Gateway is now an essential, core functionality, especially if this actually enables users to upload directly to Facebook from the camera (once all is set up).
    3) Even if it worked, there must be a faster way to set this up, to build the software into the camera? Canon could really use a Web-based UI-centric team that eliminates all the needless little barriers along the way. A customer CARE attitude starts well before having to post to a forum or contacting Support.
    4) I love the Powershot cameras. The SX700 makes up for the disappointing 280 (with its video-related battery problem and minor changes). For example, the image stabilization on the 30x zoom of the 700 is amazing (the 30x itself is fantastic). And low-light shots are better than ever. The hardware is why so many of us stick with Canon.
    The software has always lagged, something Canon can't afford in the long run, not anymore. Before worrying about that, though, customer CARE starts with paying attention to all the complaints and prioritizing THIS particular issue so that everyone can login painlessly.
    In SOFTWARE companies, bugs that are "total stoppers," frequent and simple-to-fix - they normally get prioritized to the top. It's hard to understand why this is still an issue.
    It's time to stop sending us to Support and instead to just fix this problem. We should be able to...
    Enter username and password. Get in. Set up what is now core functionality painlessly. Get out. Watch happily as it all works perfectly after that.
    With respect but frustration,
    Ken
    P.S. A quick follow-up. Installing that Gateway Album app actually DID seem to help. Some 2 hours after the initial failure, I can now login using both Safari and Chrome! The timing is too tight to be coincidence, although I've no idea why it works now.. However <sigh>...
    The camera can no longer find the mobile devices (a big step back) and it won't give me an authentication code. And so it goes... the temptation to lose yet more time. Must resist and move on.

    Hi KenE,
    We're sorry to hear of the issues you've been having with our Canon Image Gateway.  The website is currently down for maintenance and will be back up once it is completed.  If you have any additional questions, feel free contact our Canon global support for your area here: http://www.canon.com/support. 
    Thanks and have a great day!

  • Terrible customer care, still havent received serv...

    Another unresolved BT customer care case study....
    I gave BT a generous 2 full months notice for my order of BT Vision, Phone and Broadband, which was agreed to be in place on the 23rd August. This of course did not happen and despite giving BT that much notice I still do not have full service. (2nd Sept) After my experiences with BT I have come to the conclusion that BT are very reluctant to provide the services that they advertise to the public and clearly do not require any of our business.  
    After several phone calls spanning the last week and a half I have finally managed to get broadband live yesterday (1st September) but the TV is still not working. After an hour and a half of phone calls last night (during which I had to speak to 4 different people, one of which put me on hold for 20 mins which then hung up!!!!!) I was told that BT would have to cancel our TV order and reorder it, this would apparantly take another 6 working days. This problem was apparantly due to the fact that someone had duplicated our account! I was promised a phone call today at 11 AM to confirm the order, which inevitably hasnt came! Am i expected to wait another hour and a half on the phone tonight???? and another 6 working days from whenever I manage to get through to BT again???? Obviously BT customers are expected to have nothing better to do than follow up everyone of BT's mistakes.
    I have heard horror stories about BT prior to ordering this package and foolishly went along with it anyway. I would urge all potential BT customers who read this post to seriously consider their choice media provider options, not in any small part due to the fact that it seems BT are incapable of providing even the most basic of customer service.
    I would welcome anyone from BT attempting to resolve these issues (god forbid), or any other member offering any possible solutions or alternatives?

    Hi Leannecooper4888
    Send me an email using the contact us form in my profile.
    The address for this form is in the section about me at the top of my profile.
    Thanks
    Stuart
    BTCare Community Mod
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  • BT customer care say they wont give me a full refu...

    Hi all most of you all ready know that BT customer care don't care well hears my story.......
    Back in August 2011 because of my poor broad band speeds, I was on the old 8 Meg package and their sales department suggested that I would be better off changing to their 16 Meg package as I would be guaranteed a minimum speed of 10 Meg up to 16 Meg, so I took their advice and up graded and sat back and waited to fly around the internet and play games without  getting lagged out, but sadly the speed problem still existed and I complained again and again then the tec department said its a hard wire fault then it was a profile problem and they will fix it, but it never got better so I complained again and was told I was getting the correct speed for the package I was on, I tried complaining again but was told their was nothing they could do as I was getting the correct speed for my package, so I just had to put up with it as BT is the only provider in my area.
    Then just after this Christmas the problems got worse and I complained again AND FINALLY GOT HOLD OF A TEC GUY WHO FOUND OUT WHAT WAS WRONG, ALTHOUGH BT WAS CHARGING ME FOR A 16 MEG PACKAGE I WAS STILL ON MY OLD 8 MEG PACKAGE HE SAID I WAS NEVER CHANGED OVER TO THE 16 MEG PACKAGE ??.
    Well an engineer was sent out to check my connections at home he found no faults and said he will now check the exchange and the next day i had a speed of 16 Meg yes at last.
    So next move I contacted the billing department for what I thought would be an easy refund for the over payments  but was told to my dismay they could only give me a  refund for the last hundred days billing WHAT!! BT have admitted that I was not getting the service I was paying for it was their fault but wont pay me back in full??? ombudsman here I come and trading standards and even my local radio station will like to hear about this and I wont be giving up until I get a full refund this treatment to customers is despicable and I will do every thing in my power to make BT pay up.

    Hi Shifty55,
    Welcome to the forum. I would be able to take a look at the details of your complaint. Please could you send me in your details using the link found in the "about me" section of my profile?
    Thanks
    Paddy
    BTCare Community Mod
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    We are sorry but we are unable to deal with service/account queries via the private message(PM) function so please don't PM your account info, we need to deal with this via our email account :-)

  • Nokia 5530 & customer care

    my daughters 5530 started palying up, shutting down when making calls, texting or just randomly shutting down.Googled the problem and seems it was apparent that many others users had same problem and had to have handset replaced
     Put phone in my local nokia repair centre and received it back after nearly a week, took it home and was just  the same. Took it back to the repair center and got it back 3 weeks later after according to the nokia technician it had been sent away 3 times and came back faulty. Took the phone home and it was still not working correctly.
     So I decided to contact nokia myself and sent phone away using their freepost for phone to be repaired again. Recieved the phone back and lo & behold still not working correctly. I think i had been patient and phoned to ask for a replacement  as their service had been appaling. They are starting to look as bad as ACER customer support.I was told my request would be forwarded. I did actually get a phone call to say my mobile would be replaced and If I packaged it up it would be collected mon 29th Nov.and as of yet it still has not been collected. Until it is collected they wont send the replacement. I know we've had bad weather but i ordered something from hong kong on sat 27th nov and was delivered fri 3rd december. These clowns cant even organise a pick up in the UK. When will these people realise customer care and after sales help is an important fact for people to continually buy their brands?

    Hi, thanx for reply. What would a local Nokia Care services in my area be able to do? I have been on the phone tonight and these people are an absolute joke. They now say they have no information about the person contacting me to send the phone back in for replacement. I now have to re submit phone for repair, include details of what has happened in the past and phone will be assessed by an engineer. I have told them I want a replacement not a repair. Lets see if they can redeem themselves, personally I think I have more chance seeing father christmas first.

  • Complaint re: Customer Care

    I purchased a V560 with Windows 7 64 bit in March of 2011. Shortly after purchasing the laptop, I noticed that there was a screw cover missing on the inside of the lid so that the screw is exposed. It is a minor cosmetic issue, but I decided to call Lenovo Customer Service this past weekend to see if I could get a replacement cover sent to me as I could not locate it elsewhere. I spoke to a gentleman who informed me that I could not obtain the part but that I could send the laptop to Lenovo to have the entire lid replaced under warranty (??). I asked how long that would take and his reply was the laptop would be out of my hands for approximately 6 weeks. He then pushed hard to sell me an extended warranty as mine was set to expire. I informed him that I had 3-4 months left on the warranty. He verified this but continued to attempt to talk me into extending the warranty immediately as "we have a special today only here in the Philippines on warranty extension, I can give you 20% off". Coincidentally, I purchased an extended warranty for my S-10 at 20% off last year .... special price that day only. Hah.
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    That's true they want to sell additional warranty for the product which are very precious customercare is good in selling  but not in service.

  • I have an AT&T locked phone valid contract for another year. I am planning for India visit for 3 months and I want to unlock my phone to use for my purpose. Apple care can help on this? or AT&T Customer care?

    I have an AT&T locked phone valid contract for another year. I am planning for India visit for 3 months and I want to unlock my phone to use for my purpose. Apple care can help on this? or AT&T Customer care?

    It's not going to happen. Even a cursory reading of the forums would have revealed this fact.
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