Cutting SD into an HDV Sequence

Just wondered if anyone had experience of this?
I dropped an SD (4:3 Pal shot indoors on a PD170) clip into an HDV sequence and changed the scale to 252% to get it to fill the frame. Surprisingly it looks pretty good, at least on my 20" Cinema display. I then used Compressor to produce a HD Mpeg 2 and again it's very acceptable when played on DVD Player on my Cinema display. I wondered if anyone had done this and gone all the way to HD DVD and to a Plasma or similar?
I know that scaling over 115% in an SD sequence would make the clip look awful so I was wondering whether the HDV preset somehow cleverly compensates for this problem or is it just an illusion caused by my Cinema Display?
I'm asking because I have a Sony Z1 and am considering getting a Canon H1 to shoot my next film but I will need to cut in SD footage and ultimately release it on HD DVD when things settle down. I just wonder whether I'm barking up the wrong tree?
Any comments appreciated.

It's an illusion caused by your Cinema Display.
During the course of editing, it's fine to do what you've done. But once you've locked picture, use Compressor 2 to upconvert (to the HD format of your choice) only the portions of the SD clips that you'll need. (Making use of Compressor's Frame Controls settings, of course)
The basic idea being that Compressor 2's optical flow technology will produce far better HD conversion than FCP will. FCP's will be far faster, but if it's quality you're aiming for, using Compressor.

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my current edit has HDV and DV on it and I am wondeirng of anyone has any tips when editing with these formats in the sequence.
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1. the dv footage looks half the size in the canvas as the hdv footage.
I have made it bigger by double clipping on each clip and using the scale parameter under motion tab to increase it to 200% and that filled out the window.
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"1. the dv footage looks half the size in the canvas as the hdv footage.
I have made it bigger by double clipping on each clip and using the scale parameter under motion tab to increase it to 200% and that filled out the window.
Will that effect output quality? is there another way to do it? Am I losing quality here? Is there a way round this . . "
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I am assuming the footage is a fairly equal mix of HDV DV if its just a couple of DV clips then you could go with it but obviously scaling footage up to HDV then down to SD for DVD will not produce the sharpest image.

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