Dancing pixels, new heat sink, then no video at all

I have an ATI Radeon 9800 Pro video card with a 23" Cinema Display and a 15" Cinema display running from a Geffen ADC/VGA adapter. I'm have a dual 500MGHz G4 running OS 10.4. It started off as the dancing pixels on the screen. A few green spots here and there, then it got worse. Then there were green and red bands up and down my monitors. I opened up the case and saw that the fan on the heat sink had broken off. I bought an aftermarket fan and heat sink and installed it with no problems. When I booted up the computer there was an ATI icon on the main display where the apple logo usually is. There was also a part of the logo that was blinking red. Maybe it meant that the power supply was inadequate but I don't know. Then the computer froze on that logo. I tried to reboot a couple more times but then the computer just wouldn't boot at all. Anyone else have this problem?
AL

It's OK- happens to the best!
Unfortunately, the continuing screen artifacts could be caused by heat damage to the GPU done while the old fan was down. Heat damage to the chip is usually irreversible.
As for the second monitor, it also could be a victim of heat damage to the card. Does the monitor show when you "detect monitors", either in System Preferences/Displays, or the ATI Control panel?
And, you have verified that all your connections are secure?

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    !http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3236/29803095101fb261f66ao.jpg!
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    !http://ecx.images-amazon.com/images/I/41fD46i4gVL.SS400.jpg!
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    !http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3222/29803104503aa9314222o.jpg!
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    !http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3169/2979454029c07766ce1bo.jpg!
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    !http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3171/2979454137839fb19b1do.jpg!
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    !http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3018/29794542513448691da0o.jpg!
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    !http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3150/2980310816fd29234965o.jpg!
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    !http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3209/2980310910a387be2a8fo.jpg!
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    !http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3162/2980311010daa3207621o.jpg!
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    !http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3032/2980309856563935f1c3o.jpg!
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    !http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3168/2979453321a01c534560o.jpg!
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    !http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3251/29794536291b56a7febdo.jpg!
    !http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3051/2979453521fe14baa0b1o.jpg!
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    !http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3061/29803103608b7b074438o.jpg!
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    * Composite and S-Video outputs
    * VGA IN and VGA OUT for simultaneous TV/monitor viewing
    Cons:
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    * Does not use a standard USB cable
    * Not as neat as an Apple Mini DisplayPort to video adapter would be
    * You still need to buy the Apple Mini DisplayPort to VGA adapter
    *Package Contents*
    * PC to Video EZ
    * User Guide
    * Composite Video Cable
    * S-Video Cable
    * USB Power Cable
    * VGA Cable
    Links:
    http://www.grandtec.com/products/video/untimateEZ.html
    http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16815117101
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