" Dangerous use of TRANSLATE in a multilingual system ".

Hi ,
While doing CODE INSPECTOR checking for a program its showing the follwing error for this source code :
TRANSLATE ekko - fieldname to UPPERCASE.
as
" Dangerous use of TRANSLATE in a multilingual system ".
Please suggest how can we remove the error .

This isnt an error, its just a warning, isnt it? If just says that for some national characters there will be no corresponding upper case letter.

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'Dangerous use of TRANSLATE in multilingual system'?

HI Experts,
I got extended syntax error while doing syntax check.
which says..
'Dangerous use of TRANSLATE in multilingual system'...
actually for one field from EKKO table i am converting into upper case with TRANSLATE command.
so how can i solve this ..
Thanks in Advance,
Venkat

Hi,
Use Translate statement like this....
data: lang type tcp0c-langu,
cntry type tcp0c-country,
mod type tcp0c-modifier.
get locale language lang country cntry modifier mod.
set locale language lang.
translate <value> to upper case.
OR
If you want to hide the error means
"#EC TRANSLANG put this statement end of your translate statment.
Hope it will helps

Use of translate

Hi All
using of TRANSLATE text to UPPER|LOWER CASE
When i run extended check it is giving this error message
"Dangerous use of TRANSLATE in a multilingual system"
what it mean
please

Hi
SET LOCALE
SET LOCALE LANGUAGE lang .
1. ... COUNTRY cntry
2. ... MODIFIER mod
This statement defines the text environment for all programs of the current internal session for the languages specified in lang, and sets sy-langu to the value of lang. For lang, a character-type (and before release 6.10 flat) data object must be specified. This must contain a language key with a maximum length of 1 character, and this value must be contained in the column SPRAS of the database table T002. If the data object lang only contains blank characters, the logon language of the current user is used and the additions COUNTRY and MODIFIER are ignored.
The statement SET LOCALE has a different effect depending on whether the system is a Unicode system or a non-Unicode system.
Setting the text environment in a Unicode system
In a Unicode system, a language key must be entered in lang, and a country key must be entered in cntry, for which local properties must be defined in the ICU library of the application server. The possible language keys are contained in the SPRAS column of the database table T002. The locale of the text environment is set accordingly, and influences how internal tables and extracts are sorted using the statement SORT with the addition AS TEXT.
The codepage of a Unicode system is always UTF-16 and is not influenced by the statement SET LOCALE. After SET LOCALE is executed, however, the non-Unicode codepage that would be set by the statement in a non-Unicode system (see below), is used for specific statements such as reading and writing legacy files for conversions.
Setting the text environment in a non-Unicode system
In a non-Unicode system, the language key specified in lang, combined with the current operating system of the application server (system field sy-opsys) and the country key taken explicitly from the database table TCP0D or set explicity, must produce a valid key for the database table TCP0C. This key is used to extract the name of the operating system specific Locale from the column LOCALE and the number of the non-Unicode codepage from the column CHARCO. If no entry exists in the table TCP0C for the specified key, a treatable exception results.
The codepage specified by the key in TCP0C must be released as as a system codepage for the current SAP system. Otherwise a treatable exception will occur. This results in different consequences for single codepage systems and MDMP systems:
In a single codepage system, only one codepage is released as a system codepage. With SET LOCALE, only the language and the locale can be changed and not the codepage of the text environment.
In an MDMP system, multiple codepages are released as system codepages. SET LOCALE can be used to change the language, the locale, and the codepage of the text environment. If the codepage found in TCP0C is released, the SET LOCALE statement sets this codepage as the active system codepage.
A non-Unicode codepage can be released as a system codepage by entering the SAP codepage number in the database table TCPDB, which is maintained using the executable program RSCPINST. If the database table TCPDB is empty, it is handled as if it contains a single entry with the number 1100.
Addition 1
... COUNTRY cntry
The text environment is country-specific. By default, the country key is used that is associated with the language specified in lang in the database table TCP0D. The country key can also be explictly specified using the addition COUNTRY . For cntry, a character-type (before release 6.10 flat) data object is used that contains a country key with a maximum of 3 characters.
The addition COUNTRY should not be used. If possible, the implicitly set country key should be used instead.
Addition 2
... MODIFIER mod
The addition MODIFIER is currently not required and should be omitted. If it is specified, a character-type (and before release 6.10 flat) data object with a maximum of 8 characters should be used, which is ignored anyway.
The addition MODIFIER is intended for setting different locales for a language within a country, for example, for sorting according to different sort criteria. The SAP standard system does not currently support >locales.
The text environment of an internal session should only be changed for the following purposes:
Processing character-type data objects that are in a different language to the logon language of the current user. The language is important for the statements SORT ... AS TEXT, TRANSLATE ... TO UPPER CASE and for comparisons that ignore upper/lower case.
In a non-Unicode system, characters from an East-Asian language (Chinese, Japanese, Korean) are processed. If the text environment is not set up correctly, double-byte characters are not correctly recognized.
In Unicode systems, legacy files are read and written.
After processing in a changed text environment, the text environment should be reset to the previous text environment.
Instead of the SET LOCALE statement, the four function modules whose names begin with SCP_MIXED_LANGUAGES_ can be used to define or change the current text environment, and to reset it to the original text environment.
When changing the system codepage in MDMP systems, you need to ensure that a compatible codepage is also installed on the presentation server. Otherwise, it may not be possible to display all the characters on the screen.
SET LOCALE LANGUAGE ' '.

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