Depot setting -rg23d

hi,
I have a business scenario which i want to map it into SAP.
I have a Depot , i want to directly import material in depot and while receiving goods want that RG23D register get updated.and similarly when sell goods rg23d get updated.
Kindly suggest me steps so that i can configure this scenario.
Regards,
Vijay

hi,
ihad done all these setting
but i want that while doing MIGO, rg23d register get updated and not rg23a or rg23c.
i have checked in SAp , it is not giving any option for rg23d.
Please suggest if it is possible.
Regards,
Vijay Shukla

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Sales Return Process at Depot with RG23D Update

Hi,
Can anybody give me complete process for Sales return at depot with RG23D register update ?
Thanks in advance...........
Sanjay

Hai sanjay,
1) create return order in depot
2) return delivery
3) when u create return delivery Goods receipt document generates
4) enter the goods receipt document in J1IG and enter the excise values manually with reference to header excise condition values from return order and update depot register.
As when return comes depot register has to be updated with value and quantity. then create credit memo to customer.
Regards
Saju

Stock value for stock transfer from depot (RG23D) to manufacturing (RG23A)

Dear all,
The forum posts that I found are all relating to the process of how to do stock transfer from depot plant to manufacturing plant.
The question I want to post is relating to the transferred stock value.
When stock first goes into depot plant (RG23D), the excise duties (CVD, Education Cess, Higher Education Cess, Secondary Education Cess) are all inventorized. However, in manufacturing plant (RG23A), they are CENVATABLE and not inventorized.
In the transfer of stock from depot to manufacturing, how can we split out the stock value from depot and take out the excise duties to CENVAT in manufacturing plant?
If using Stock Transfer process (move stock from depot to manufacturing),
1. Create Stock Transfer Order in ME21N using UD order type
      no accounting
2. Create DO in VL10B and goods issue
During goods issue, moving average of stock in depot plant, will increase stock with the same value in manufacturing plant and reduce the stock value in depot plant. How can we reduce the stock value transferred to manufacturing plant by the original excise duties amount, and pass this amount into J1IEX? Is it done in this step or later steps?
   Dr Stock into manufacturing plant [this value by right, should be reduced as it consists of original excise duties in RG23D?]
      Cr Stock from depot plant
3. J1IJ- RG23D selection for excise invoice for delivery at depot
    no accounting
4. VF01 for proforma invoice
   no accounting
5. MIGO into manufacturing plant (capture excise invoice)- part 1 register. the excise duties can be manually keyed in based on the original RG23D entries when stock is first brought into originating depot plant
     no accounting
6. Enter Incoming Excise Invoice by J1IEX
     Dr CENVAT Input AED
     Dr CENVAT Input BED
     Dr RG23A ECess
     Dr RG23A SHECess
           Cr CENVAT clearing
7. Question: Where to Debit CENVAT clearing? In normal domestic purchase process of raw materials into manufacturing plant, Dr CENVAT clearing will be posted during MIRO time.
If this process is not the correct way to do, please advise the standard SAP recommended way to transfer from depot to manufacturing plant.
Thank you in advance.

You have to add the Excise duty condition types as a Delivery cost Pricing condition types in STO Pricing procedure and have used them in STO. In Pricing procedure, there is no concept of Deductible and Non Deductible. So, what ever the Delivery cost condition you add in Pricing procedure, the amount gets loaded on to the Material cost..To avoid this, a negative condition type needs to be inserted in Pricing procedure with a different accrual key.
You have to add One Positive condition and One Negative Condition type for the same. Negative condition type is to reduce the condition value from the Material cost during GI.
Try this scenario in development server and revert back with your observations.

Creation of excise invoice at depot with A-certificate

Dear Friends,
I have a scenario with one of my customers where they transfer stock from plant to depot and sell those from there. In one instance, it was discovered that by mistake proforma invoice at the plant was prepared with wrong base price and therefore less excise values flowed into the outgoing excise invoice. To take care of this an excise JV was passed from the plant. Thereafter, an A-certificate was created w.r.t the outgoing plant invoice to capture the excess excise values. Simultaneously, a debit memo request was created for the plant followed by a debit memo to balance amount. The RG1, RG23A partII registers were then updated. Now, while selling from the depot, when excise invoice is being assigned to the delivery, I am not able to find the plant excise invoice which is needed to be assigned. Only, the A-certificate is seen. I have tried to change selection criteria also but still unable to find the particular incoming invoice in the list. Therefore, I am not able to create the depot excise invoice.
My queries are as follows:
1. Whether the process of adjusting the excise difference through JV is OK. Or I need to create a supplementary invoice through J1IS with reference document type OTHR?
2. How to update RG1 register for the differential value or the RG23A only shall be updated instead of RG1 after the Jv is passed?
3. I am not able to assign the incoming excise invoice and the A-certificate together to the outbound delivery at depot.
I shall be obliged if any of you suggest me a solution from your experience as many of you might have come accross similar scenarios while working on CIN.
Awaiting a reply and wishing everybody a very Happy New Year in advance.
Regards.

Dear Lakshmipathi,
Thanks for the prompt response and suggestion. I believe I have not been able to clarify my requirement. I understand that at depot level RG23D only should be updated and RG1 or RG23A has got no relevance. My query is, when the goods are being sent from plant to depot, RG1 register is updated which will capture the excise values in the outgoing excise invoice. Now later on when I find that I have sent goods at wrong price(ie charged less excise duties), I need to generate a supplementary invoice and issue a debit memo to the depot to balance my revenue accounts. Now, in this case , how I shall post the differential amount to the registers at plant level and during utilization how the set off will take place between sales and procurement?
As regards the A-certificate part I have understood the entire process and have completed the same.
Also I need your inputs in the following scenario:
Incase If I have charged more excise to the customer during sale from factory, how the same amount will be adjusted in the registers.
Process Flow: Factory Sales
VA01 u2013 Create Order                                    - 10 Pc
VL01N u2013 Create Delivery & PGI                 - 10 Pc
VF01 u2013 Create Commercial Invoice             - BED- 1000 , ECS u2013 20 , SheCess - 10
J1IIN u2013 Create Outgoing excise invoice      - BED- 1000 , ECS u2013 20 , SheCess - 10
J1I5-Update RG1 register
J2I5-Extract RG1 register
J2I6- Print RG1 Register
We realized that we have charged more price as a result even excise is charged more to the Customer.
So the steps that we are thinking are as follows:
Actual Excise values should have been BED- 800 , ECS u2013 16 , SheCess - 8
1)Create Credit Memo
2)Create Excise JV through J1IH ( Additional Excise ) - Excise Amount : BED- 200 , ECS u2013 4 , SheCess - 2
My present RG23A balance of Purchases is BED-2000 , ECS u2013 40 , SheCess - 20
Now our question is when we are creating Excise JV through J1IH ( Additional Excise ), RG23A Register is getting updated and additional values getting added.
So now my RG23A balance of Purchases is BED-1800 , ECS u2013 36 , SheCess - 18
So in Utilization i.e. in T-Code : J2IUN, Available Balances are decreased. But Outgoing excise values to be sett off are not getting affected anyways.
This means that my excise values of Purchases i.e. RG23A Part 2 are getting decreased and Excise values during sales are not getting affected which we feel is not correct.
Please give your valuable inputs and also let me know if I am following the correct Process as many suggest to use J1IS T- Code for Adustments.

Return to vendor from Depot

Hello
We purchased material in Depot with RG23D updated.
Now we want to send the material back to Vendor.
What is the process to be used in Depot?
Thanks

Hi,
You can send the material with PO & Without PO
1) PO create & flagged return to vendor in item over view
2) MIGO system automatically pick movement type 161 stock reduces from stock & GR/IR Clearing account dbt,
3) j1is capture excise duties
4) Print the excise invoice
without PO
MIGO
select return delivery
JI1S against material document no
Print outgoing excise invoice.
But before that in customization setting you have remove register updation for the movement type 161.
Regards
Sudhir

Depot Issue

Dear Experts,
I already done the Depot setting but I find some problem which is one by one as under please give yours experts advise.
1. I made one STO from plant A to Dept plant B which was Finihsed Product and delacare in RG1 in J1ID for plant A.I want to confrim in J1ID this product where I declare because for Depot plant B becuase there no option for RG23D.
2.After all settings and the excise inv. from plant A when I recieved the invocie in Depot plant B than at the time of MIGO no excise tab dispaly no Rg23d update.
please confrim me where I m wrong
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Depo setting

There are two plants say 1 & 2 plant 1 is exciseable plant,plant 2 is depot,
in acoount determination valuation grouping code is plant 1 for plant 2 & profiy center in material master of plant 2 is defined as 1.
Excise register like RG 23D not maintained & it is updating in RG23A of plant 1 for depot sale of plant 2 now client requirement is to configure the depot setting all transcation should updated in RG23D FInanace has given set of GL account which should get updated for any transcation.
It will be great if any one can give some input from where & what are the setting should be configured to updated Depot register
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Manufacturing Plant Vs Depot Plant

Hi experts,
Where we can define in spro the plant whether it is Manufacturing Plant or Depot Plant, acutully I have opned one depot plant, but it is behaving like manufacturing plant. I think I have missed something in spro.
Kindly help me.
Regards
GR

Dear friend
The following settings are needed to to do
1) maintain the plant setting tab click as depot
Spro-Logistic general-tax on goods movement-plant setting
2) maintain the Excise group
In that also depot setting is there
3) Maintain the series group for depots
regards
pramod

Options in excise tab ( subcontracting Process)

HI,
Subcontracting business process
i am getting No excise duty, Create RG23D, and create RG23D for existing excise invoice options in Excise invoice tab at MIGO.
i have checked above settings in the system...but still the same error
please suggest
Regards,
Girish

Hi,
If you are making a process of Subcontracting , then you should be able to get Refer Subcontracting Challan in MIGO , for that in CIN--> Plant Setting you should REMOVE Tick from Depot against that plant also check that for the Excise Group if it is a subcontracting process Depot Setting should NOT be there.
If you put a tick against Depot in CIN --> Plant Setting and Depot Setting for the Excise Group, you will get RG23D tabs in MIGO
Regards,
Vikas

Reg Assembly Process

Hi Guru,
i would like to know the assembly Process with CIN details.
please give the details regarding the above.
Thanks
BR
siva

Hi Guru,
we are using the following process.
Direct Material
Prcourement from the supplier who are coming under VAT taxation
Procurement from supplier who are coming under CST taxataion
Procurement from the supplier where C form need to be given
Procurement from the Subcontracting Suppliers
Indirect material:
Service Procurement and relevant taxation
Consignement Procurement
Procurement from the supplier with account assignement purchase
Capital Goods
Capital Goods Procurement for Machineries
Capital Procurement for Machine accessories - Grinding wheel
Import
Procurement from other Plants
Procurement of Steel from Suppliers
Procurement of Capital Goods
Service Procurement for Tool Calibration
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Option to enter the tax condition value or % in PO
Import Pricing to include the required condition of Excise and Govt requirement
Incoming Excise Invoice
Capture Excise Invoice During GR
Option to Edit the value after Excise Invoice Capture
Returnable Excise Invoice Form
Import Duty Capture and Excise Invoice posting
Registers
RG23A - Part I and Part 2 update
RG23C - Part I and Part 2 update
Cenvat Regeister
Sales Tax Regeister
Payment of tax to central and State - Separate GR posting
CIN Configuration Check list - PTP
Excise Registration
Check Excise Registration is updated for all plants
Check Excise Reg is updated with the Excise Range Information
Check Excise reg is updated with the ECC NO for all the plants
Check Excise Reg, Division and Range is maintained in Excise Reg
Plant Settings:
Check whether Excise Registration is assigned to plant or not
Check the manufactruing plant is unchecked with Depot Indicator
Check Multiple goods receipt/Multiple Credit option is set for Manufcaturing plants
Check the Depot plant has been flagged with Depot Indicator
Check Multiple goods receipt/Multiple Credit option is set for Depot plants
Excise Group
Check Excise Groups is created for manufacturing plant
Check the outgoing Excise Invoice settings
Check Default Challan Qty from GR is flagged in Excise group
Check Depot setting are deflagged for manufacturing plant Excise Group
Check in MIGO setting of Excise group all the below
EI Create/23D deflagged for manufacturing plant
EI Capture, Post, Duty different at GR, update RG1 at MIGO are flagged.
Check Depot settings are flagged for Excise groups for Depot
Check EI Create/23D is updated with flag mark for all Depot Excise Groups
Check the assignement of Plant, Excise Registration and Excise Group
Subcontracting
Check the sub contracting attribute is maintained as per plant requirement
Check the maintain movement type group is maitained with correct movement types
Incoming Excise Invoice
Check the assigned movement type for EI and Register Updates
Maintain Rejection code to cancel the Excise Invoice
Excise Regesiters
Check SAP Script is assigned
Number Ranges
Incoming Excise Invoice
Subcontracting Challan
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siva

Register updation - J1I5

Dear Friends,
1. Whats are the classifications relevent for SD - whil updating the registers....
2. Do we have any accounting impact after creation of ARE-1 specially in the case of Export under Rebate?
If so ....whats the A/C entries like?
Cheers

Hi
RG23A and RG23C is are basically pertaining to MM-CIN and these are the registers statutorily needs to be submitted to Central Excise department about the receipts, issues, stock details of excisable material.
RG23D relates to Depot transaction of finished goods and this is relevant to SD-CIN.
RG1 is for finished goods.
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Register RT-12/ ER1 for.
This is a monthly report that summarizes the CENVAT and PLA information from the other registers
Hi
for Export Sales
ARE1 document is created for postings
for Factory Sales
RG23A, RG23C registers are updated
for Depot Sales
RG23D register is updated
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Accounting entries in STO ??

hii
I want to know the exactly STO process with CIN accounting entries in manufacturing plant and in DEPOT plant .
In manufacturing plant RG1 register will get updated ??
ANd In DEPOT plant , RG23D register will get updated ??
Explain me with accounting entries in Manufacturing plant and DEPOT plant for STO process.
Thanks

Hi
A similar answer I had already given
RG1 is updated ony in manufacturing plant not in Depo. In depo we update only RG23D
Process Flow
Step 1 - Creation of Stock Transport Order.
In ME21N, mention the Issuing Plant. Please check the item tab Invoice and see the Tax juridiction code as IN00. Check and Save the PO. (No excise accounting entries)
Step 2 u2013 Transfer Posting
Do the transfer posting in MB1B with proper Plant selection and movement type 351. Refer the PO and adopt the details. Note the Material document number. (No excise entry)
Step 3 u2013 Creation of Excise Invoice
Create Excise Invoice for other movements in J1IS. Select the document type as MATD. See that the system is automatically creating the Invoice. Note the Excise Invoice Number and FI document number created by the system.
(Excise duty payable credit and cenvat suspense account debit)
Step 4 u2013 Print of Excise Invoice
The Transaction code is J1IV. Save the document and take the print.
Now the Material is reached at 2nd Plant. The activities at that Plants are :
Step 5 u2013 Capturing of Excise Invoice
Its an ordinary J1IEX transaction. Capture the Invoice against the stock Transport Order. See that Plant 2 is automatically appeared. Enter the required detail and save the document and note the internal number.
Step 6 u2013 Goods Receipt
It is also an ordinary MIGO transaction. Enter the excise invoice details, save the document and note the material document number.
Step 7 u2013 Posting the Excise Invoice
J1IED - (Here no cenvat accounting since it is a trading plant. Only there will be entry in RG23D register.) Your excise invoice is stored in register only)
In step-3 the cenvat suspense account which was triggered need to be cleared manually.
Legally Depo plants should not create excise invoice. It can pass on the excise invoice and value which they have recieved from manufacturing plant. it means in case if the material goes out from that place to another place or customer it will carry the invoice which was generated in Step-3
Hope you are clear
Regards
Antony

Third party plant

Hi All,
Of late, I heard a term "Third party plant".
What is meant by "Third party plant"?
Is it a word to refer our consignment vendor?
Kindly clarify.
Regards,
Raja Durai

Dear Raja,
Yes you can create a Plant as a customer. But just think in a way that if in future multiple dealers will be there then are you going to create all of them as Plant?
Another point why you would like to create is Excise registered? It is not a physical plant correct?
When you will show material movement from your Manufacturing Plant to this Third party plant via STO at that time itself excise will be applied correct?
I have a view that you can maintain Plant as DEPOT with RG23D register maintenance when it is actually a physical location. In this case, it is like a logical plant so Excise registration should not be needed.
If my understanding is wrong please correct me.
Regards,
MJ.

How system automatically update the RG23A ,C,D Registers

Hi,
As after capturing of excise invoice in J1IEX system update the corresponding RG register like for RM, RG23A, For capitalk goods RG23C etc. i want to know how system find the corresponding register which is to be updated ,
, In forum i read it find on the basis of Material type , but insted of std. mat. type we have create RM for ROH , FG for FERT etc. then How system find the register automaticcaly where is the link is made for this.
regards,
zafar

Hello,
RG23A Register is update. When you are procuring some material from Vendor, then that material is Maintained in J1ID ,(as Raw material) After capture of excise invoice, system will automaticaly find RG23A register, Finding of registers is based on material types mentioned in J1ID.
RG23C is updated when the material is assigned to material types in J1ID as a Consumbales, Tools and Assets.
RG23D register will update the plant as defined as DEPOT, then RG23D register gets updated. In DEPOT there is no RG23A and RG23C register, only register is RG23D.
Regards
Mahesh Naik

Case of plant to plant Stock transfer

Dear all,
We are transfering the material from a plant to depot. The supplying plant creats a del. and an outgoing excise invoice. This invoice is captured at depot in RG23D entry. All the details are copied. But the system is giving srror message " No vendor for the excise invoice"
Why this error message is appearing during GR in MIGO?
Regards.
Milind

hi milind,
For STO, Both supplying & recieving plants created as a vendor & customer. Those cutomers need to be assigned with Vendor master in Control data view
If assigned error will not come while making GR
Regards,
Kanagu

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