Diamond Plus Nvidia RAID problem

Hello. I was able to set up nvidia raid in the BIOS and XP accepted the 2 drivers (F6) during install. However, when it gets to the point of formatting the array, Windows says it can't format the drive(s), "...maybe broken, etc." So, I tried the onboard Silicon Image raid and that worked fine. Windows installed without a problem. The only thing that bothered me was that HD Tach showed Burst Speed for the array as disappointingly slow. Actually, a few ticks less than the single ATA 150 drive they use for comparison. Every report I've seen with the Hitachi drives in raid 0 has them bursting above 300 mbs. But, the average read was an acceptable 97 mbs.
So, I got rid of the raid array and installed Windows on a single drive. Burst speed is 221 (a lot higher than with the SI RAID), but average read, naturally, is much less at around 47.
Questions: 1) Any suggestions on the problem I'm having with Nvidia Raid? I'd give it another try if there is a solution.
2) Is RAID 0 really worth it? I'm mainly interested in gaming and everything I've read says there is no real world difference playing games with Raid 0.
BTW, the system is very stable either way (Raid/Single Drive). Prime 95 & memtest, no errors after 4/6 hours.

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Do I also need to load the SATA IDE driver after/before the 2 Raid drivers?
Both drivers need to be loaded for OS to se the array as one disk . You must do this with nvidia SATA raid .
Use the "S" a second time and load the second driver during the F6 install .

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MOVED: K8N Diamond Plus Motherboard overclocking problem.

This topic has been moved to Overclockers & Modding Corner.
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Quote from: TimeReaper on 15-February-06, 09:15:17
I know this board can reach 300+ by reviews by Tom's Hardware. But I was wondering how I could get my FSB up there? I can't seem to get past the hurtle at 270. Anything above this will make the system fail to start up and I have to clear the BIOS again.
I lowered the HT to the equivalent of 3X, and CPU Multiplier to 8X using a venice core 3500+. I even tried adding voltage to the HT. I'm wondering if I'm missing something in this equation that stops me from getting 300+ FSB? The overclockable items are too many and unexplained.
If someone could spread some light on what else needs to be done, please tell me.
My system is as follows.
MSI K8N Diamond Plus
AMD64 3500+ Venice
OCZ DDR600 Platinum Elite
520 OCZ Powerstream
2x Samsung 200G@Raid 0
Zalman CNPS 9500 LED
Sapphire GTO2
Hi dude,
I have the similar problem as well. Sounds like you are in the bad shape, but yeah, try to loose your RAM settings. First, all settings auto seem to be good, but it's actually not the case. You have to set TRC and TRFC as higher than 12 and 14. I am seeting those to be 14, 18, and it seems to be working great. It will be better to set the burst length as 4 beats. I don't like this board coz I can't set the drive length to be weak instead of normal detected by the Windows. My system can post, but I got problems of playing 3D demos and games, which looks like it's the problem of motherboard. Not mature enough.
My rig:
AMD Athlon64 3700+ @ 2.7GHz
OCZ Platinum Elite DDR600 2.5-4-4-10 Dual Channel
Leadtek PX6800GT @ 425/1200 at 2nd PCIe slot
2 x WD 120GB 7200RPM + Samsung 160GB HD

K8N Diamond Plus Power on problem

I have this problem with the board where I shut down windows, and it does shut down by the way. But the strange thing is that right after it powers down, like say a second, it restarts itself as if I pressed the power button immediately after. Though I can correct this by pressing power again while it is still going through the motherboard check ups, I was wondering if someone had similar problems. If so, if there is a solution to correct this bug?
I am currently using the 1.16 version patch.

CPU=Opteron 170
Motherboard=MSI K8N Diamond Plus
Videocard=Sapphire X800GTO2
Soundcard=Creative X-Fi
Hard drive= 2x RaptorX 150GB @ Raid 0
PSU=OCZ Powerstream 600
CPU Cooler=Zalman CNPS 9500LED
3x 80mm exhaust fan
1x 120mm intake fan
1x Vortex 2 Intake crossblower
1x Slot Exhaust
1x Antec Vcool Intake
I'll check on that wake lan thing.

K8N Diamond Plus and IEEE1394 problem

I connected the supplied IEEE1394 bracket to the correct connectors in the mainboard (as described in pg 2-20 in the manual).
the "squarish" port worked fine, but the "longer" type just won't work!
what happened? in the manual, it says one of the connector is optional. but in my board, there are 2 1394 connectors.
does it have anything to do with the problem?
thanks

In my Diamond Plus board there were two separate brackets that came with it.
One - for IEEE 1394 (Firewire) usage has two different shaped connectors on it, two cables coming off of it, and each cable has a GREEN connector with a big nub hanging off the side that only allowed them to be plugged into the IEEE1394 ports on the motherboard. You could NOT accidentally plug those into USB ports because they would not fit.
The other, for USB and diagnostic LED, has two same sized USB connectors on it, and four LED's. The USB ports have two cables that come together at a YELLOW connector. The LED's have a single cable that comes together at a BLACK connector. It looks to me like if you inverted these connectors you could get it to fit into the IEEE jack on the motherboard, but they don't belong there.
Make sure you're using the right brackets.
Good Luck,
DJG
NOTE - Now that I reread this, it sounds like you might be saying that you got the two connectors to fit into the motherboard fine, but that one of the ports on the bracket still doesn't work. Is that what you mean? If so, I have nothing to offer except try switching connectors on motherboard and see if problem travels with bracket connector or motherboard port, try new bracket, etc...).
DJG

K8N Diamond Plus audio out problem

Hi,
I'm having an issue with the audio out on my K8N Diamond Plus. The rear audio out works fine when left jumpered. However when I connect the front panel audio connector to the mother board the volume of the rear audio out drops to an almost in audable level while the front panel audio works as expected.
At first I thought the rear audio had been completely disabled until I tried turning my speakers all the way up.
Is there a software issue here?
FYI I'm trying to use the front pannel audio connection on a Silverstone TJ07 case.

hey - mikein_texas here - i have same board but with a Centurion case -
couple of things i ran into - maybe will spark some ideas
initally i hooked up front panel audio and got nothing
then i read on page 2-19 of manual that 5-6,9-20 have to be jumpered for rear audio to work
but that means no front audio which was a drag - but solved that prob with usb mike and headphones
apparently unless i am reading it wrong and someone please correct me if so, but you can have front audio OR rear audio
BUT not both
again look at page 2-19 in manual and specifically at text in grey box in middle of page
Yukon PXE 2.01 ( 20040406 )
Pre-boot Execution Environment PXE v.2.1
DLink Cable Modem - model DCM-202
ViewSonic VX2025WM 20.1" Widescreen TFT LCD - 1680x1050, 800:1, 8ms
MSI K8N Diamond Plus Socket 939 NVIDIA nForce4 SLI X16 ATX AMD
SAMSUNG Black 1.44MB 3.5" Internal Floppy Drive Model SFD321B/LBL1
SONY Black IDE DVD-ROM Drive Model DDU1615/B2s
XFX Geforce 7600GT PV-T73G-UDD3 Video Card
SAMSUNG 16X DVD±R DVD Burner - 5X DVD-RAM Write and LightScribe Black ATA/ATAPI Model SH-S162L/BEBN
COOLER MASTER Centurion 532 RC-532-SKN1 Black Computer Case
AMD Opteron 165 Denmark 1000MHz HT 2 x 1MB L2 Cache Socket 939 Dual Core
CORSAIR XMS 2GB (2 x 1GB) 184-Pin DDR SDRAM Unbuffered DDR 400
Seagate Barracuda 7200.9 ST3808110AS 80GB 7200 RPM 8MB Cache SATA 3.0Gb/s Hard Drive
Ultra ULT31849 X-Finity 600W Power Supply
Cooler Master A12025-12CB-5BN-L1- 120 x 120 x 25mm 1200rpm, 43cfm, 22dBA, LED, 3-pin - front intake case fan
Scythe S-FLEX SFF21F 1,600rpm, 49.0CFM, 20.1dBA, 3-pin, 120mm S-FDB Bearing - rear exhaust case fan

Diamond Plus Sil raid

Getting ready to set up a raid array (raid 0) using 2 wd 160 sataII hdd's. Planning on using Sli raid. Does it matter which of the 6 ports i use for this? Planning on removeing my maxtor drive.

The manual states that ports 1- 4 work for nvidia raid. So would ports 5 & 6 be for Sil raid?

ATTN K8N Diamond Plus Users - SLI problem

i need help diagnosing a problem:
i installed this board last night, transplanted my a64 4000+ along with 2 7800gt's and a brand new antec 550w psu. i did the live update bios flash (dont recall what version i am running now) got my e/n and audio drivers in place etc.
when i enable sli, the machine freezes when i fire up a game. both cards are plugged in properly, i tried swapping the slots they were sitting in, i tested both cards individually and they are good, i reversed the sli bridge just in case, reverted to fail safes in the bios,
i cannot play games in sli mode, in single card mode i can (I THINK... i am afraid this might be a heat issue, but i put plenty of fresh arctic silver on my proc, FEAR seems to freeze regardless if i am running sli or not..i will have to double check when i get home from work)
has anyone experienced anything similar? i am running fresh drivers and this is my first sli build so maybe i am missing something... i have been racking my brain for the last 12 hours, i dont think its the ram, could it be the northbridge chipset driver? i installed the one off the disc, but i didnt check the site for a newer one...
thank you so much for your time.

Quote from: kakarocht on 08-February-06, 13:58:02
Do not used liveupdate to flash the bios. Used from the program files itself. Refer from my sig on the flashing the bios. BTW create your own sig and gives more details about your peripherals and psu in details. What my concern is your PSU problems. Could you gives more details your PSU? Have you tried to install new drivers from NVIDIA??
the psu is a brand new antec 'true power 2.0' unit that i bought from newegg...in bios the 12v rail is showing 12.3 which might be a little bit high...but it is stable for what its worth...
here is my setup, i will create a sig shortly:
2gb PQI ram DDR400 running at stock speeds, not sure of the latency but i am thinking cas2
A64 4000+ Clawhammer proc running at stock 2.4ghz speed, 1mb cache
MSI K8N diamond+
dual 120gb maxtors
sony dual layer 16x dvd
stock cpu fan.
shitloads of AS7
another curious fact:
since the upgrade FEAR doesnt want to work at all... DOOM and COD2 both work in single card mode...but FEAR will freeze on me mere seconds after the first map loads...
i dont know what the culprit is...but i bet im gonna kick myself when i find out...
im gonna go re flash my bios now...
thanks for the input, its always greatly appreciated.

NX7600GT Diamond Plus - Dual Monitor Problem

Hi Folks
I have the above card on XP SP3 running the latest nvidia drivers - never had MSI drivers on this installation. Both monitors have the correct drivers installed.
I just bought a lovely 24" HDMI monitor and was hoping to have it running with my existing DVI LCD monitor.
The 24" is connected by the HDMI cable, 19" LCD is on the DVI connection.
Thing is I cannot get an extended desktop option (I presume this is Dualview in nVidia speak). It just doesn't exist for me! The only thing I can manage is a Clone view, or single display.
I've tried running the dual display wizard and setting to force TV detection thing, but nothing seems to give me the extend desktop or dualview option.
Can someone tell me what I'm doing wrong please. I've had a search of these forums and the net and I can't find anyone having the same problems!
Thanks for any help
Balders
edit...Sorry for stating the bleeding obvious, but for anyone who doesn't know (it's pretty old) this is the card with only one DVI output and one HDMI output.

Well!
Just to let you know I did exactly the same thing as I did last night, except this time it worked!
God knows! Must have been one of them there gremlins!

Diamond Plus and shutdown problem *resolved*

I am just wondering if anyone else is experiencing this. There is one other fellow on another forum that just built a system around this board that is experiencing a similar situation.
I am running windows (32 bit) and using the original bios (no issues so far, except this if it is one)
Approximately 60-75% of the time when I go to shut down or restart it acts like I didn't click it, but when I click it the second time it functions normally then.
When I installed this mainboard it replaced an Asus A8N SLI board, I needed to save some E mails that I had forgotten to save so I did a repair installation of windows. I just attributed the shutdown "glitch" to that. I am about to reformat and reinstall windows fresh this morning, maybe this will solve the problem. (but my gut tells me it probably won't) Also I installed the SW-ide drivers and the NVidia firewall, which I won't be installing this time.

Quote from: kakarocht on 22-March-06, 23:08:52
Do you do any ocing? Have you tried to up the RAM voltage? is your windows is properly installed??
Yes I do a little overclocking, 2.6Ghz - 217 FSB but SuperPi and Prime 95 stable at that speed. I just reformatted and the problem is gone, Like I had mentioned I had done a repair installation when I installed the board from an Asus A8N in order to retrieve some E-Mails, I didn't have the chance to reformat until today. I really didn't think that would have fixed it, so much for my gut feeling.......

Problem with 2gb Corsair ram on MSI Diamond plus mobo

Ok first of all,the specs:
AMD Athlon 64 X2 4200+ "Manchester"
MSI MS-7100 K8N Diamond Plus, nVidia nForce4 SLI
MSI GeForce NX7900GTX-T2D512E
2048 MB DDR-RAM, 400MHz - (TWINX1024-3200C2PRO) Corsair TwinX CL2
( 4 pieces at 512mb ram)
Plextor PX-755SA/T3K DualLayer / 16x DVD+/-RW
HDD: Maxtor DiamondMax 10 (6V200E0) 200 GB SerialATA-II / 7200rpm
running on win xp prof. sp2
with newest version of mobo bios and drivers.
The thing is, if i stick all the for ram pieces into the pc, it tends to crash down after a while or during the booting with PAGE_FAULT_IN_NONPAGED_AREA as error msg.
but if i take two pieces out and run all with 1 gb no problems occour. This is starting to really annoy me, so i'm hoping someone has the know how to help me out, i'd really appriciate any suggestions or or solutions, i just want to run my system with 2gb of ram

run memtest on the system and tell us if you get any errors. it is probably a bad configuration of the memory timings and voltages. try to get the timings and voltages from the manufacturer's web page and then set up manually in bios.

New K8N diamond plus questions please help.

Hi all well i am new to this msi site and am thinking of buying the new MSI K8N Diamond plus motherboard, the problem i have is that i have been a fan of ASUS and have had there last 3 SLI motherboards of which i have not been happy with.
Well i am totaly into overclocking and have an Opteron 165, balistix ram, 600w Enermax PSU, 2x Gainward 6800gt's,
what i am looking for is a motherboard that does what i says it will do, yes the asus a8n32 was a great motherboard but has a limitation on the voltage if useing the new E4-E6 stepping cores of which would only give a max voltage of 1.58v of which the asus spec said 1.76v.
What i am asking you chaps is is this a great motherboard, can you play with all the coms settings without any limitation, or do you think that the DFI motherboard is better.
If you can let me have some info on this motherboard that would be great, as i can not seam to get any reply from MSI about some information.
what i am looking for is what is the max CPU voltage and is there any limitation on it for some chips.
what is the max voltage for the ram
what is the max voltage for the chipset.
any help on this would be great.

Quote from: Stick on 23-February-06, 17:46:08
there is no mobo that alows 4V for the memory. i think the DFI goes up to 3.4V and you can use a DDR Booster to get to 3.8V. the only mobo that is capable to pass 3.3V is the DFI since you can have the choice to select from which rail the memory will be powered (the 3.3V or the 5V). you don't have that option in any other mobo.
Hi thanks for the mail but i have just copied this from msi about this motherboard, see below.
1.Adjust CPU FSB Frequency:
You can adjust the desired "CPU FSB Frequency" by using "+,-" key. The default value of AMD Athlon™64 is 200MHz. The maximum value is 450MHz.
2.AMD Overclocking Configuration (CPU Ratio):
If the CPU is Athlon™64 FX series, the ratio range is from 4 to 25.
If the CPU is Athlon™64 series, the ratio should be set according to its model number. For example, the ratio range of 3000+ is from 4 to 9, and the 3200+ is from 4 to 10.
3.Adjust Extra CPU Voltage:
This is for adjusting CPU voltage while overclocking. Following the CPU default value, the maximum is 1.8V. The interval is 0.05V.
4.Adjust DDR Memory frequency:
The Memclock is the major part which has four different frequencies to match many kinds overclocking memory modules. The memory frequency settings includes DRAM/FSB=1/2, 2/3, 5/6, 1/1.
5.DDR Memory Voltage:
This is for adjusting memory voltage while overclocking. K8N Diamond Plus has a special design.We use jump to distinguish two level arrangement of voltage. In this way it can get maximum 4.1V for overclocking modules. As you can see the below pictures, the left one is the standard mode when jump hat is located at the top postion. The default value is 2.5V, and the maximum is 3.2V. The interval is 0.05V. As the right one, it is overclocking mode when jump hat is located at the under postion. The default value is 3.2V, and the maximum is 4.1V. The interval is 0.05V.
What i am asking is there any limitation on the cpu voltage like the asus a8n32 as this had a max voltage of 1.58v due to it having a limit put on it by recomendation of amd.

[nVidia Series] P4N Diamond Major Raid Problems

This is a very hard problem to explain so i will be very basic i can not get raid to run on this board, with the drivers that came with the board windows will set up but then can not reboot! With newer drivers from nvidia windows can not copy files for installation.At the moment i have windows set up on a single drive and it runs fine But i did not spend all this money just to run 1 drive to me this a worthless board if i cant get raid going any one out there have any ideas pls let me know.
P4N Diamond SLI
P4 650 3.4 GHz
4x 512 Geil DDR2 667
2x 6800 gt's (SLI)
Plextor 8x sata DVD Burner
NEC 16x Dual layer DVD Burner (IDE)
MSi TV Tuner Plus
4x 80 Gig sata2 hd's
550W Rosewill PSU (I allready know its not the prob!)

Just to be clear, the process you used was:
1. In the board bios (accessed with the Del key) you enabled the nVidia raid function.
2. Then you enabled Raid for the Primary and Secondary SATA1 channels
3. You then rebooted the computer and used the F10 key to access the raid bios in order to configure the drives.
The online manual doesn't talk about step 3 at all. You should be able to refer to section 5 in the english manual from the AMD board if you don't have it in your paper copy:
http://www.msi.com.tw/program/support/manual/mnu/spt_mnu_detail.php?UID=637&kind=1
I would think the configuration should be the same.
Good luck, you've gone past my limited knowledge on these boards.

[nVidia Series] P4N Diamond raid problem

i have a P4N diamond motherboard with a 3 ghz cpu on. I have setted up a raid 5 with 4 drives on the nvidia raid controller. on the sillicon raid controller i want to have to have 2 sata disks striped. In the sillicon bios for the raid i have configured those 2 drives for raid0 and i get 1 logical drive which i also can see from the bios. My problem is then that when i boot up the computer and begin the installation of windows xp ( and give it the sillicon driver with the F6 button ) then i get 2 logical disks on the sillicon controller instead of my striped raid0 drive.
What do i do wrong? everything looks right for me in the bios. Raid is enabled and the serial ata ports are enabled. Help please
- Jesper H

problem fixed by using the right silicon driver. the orginal diskette driver can not be used. you need to make a diskette with the raid version of the silicon driver.

Problems w/ on-board NVidia RAID + PCI RAID on P7N Diamond

Here's the setup and issue.
I'm booting off of the on-board NVidia RAID on my P7N Diamond. It's RAID5 w/ 4 WD 640GB drives. Works fine.
I've recently pulled a NetCell SyncRAID SR5000 PCI RAID card (runs an adapted RAID3) from an old system where it worked fine and was NOT the boot drive...just storage. Plugged it in the one and only PCI slot on my P7N Diamond. Once it's in, the system will no longer boot.
When the PCI RAID card is not installed, the mobo's BIOS boot menu shows "NVIDIA RAID5 1". As soon as I install the PCI RAID card, the NVidia RAID disappears (no longer an option at all) and is replaced by "IDE:Revolution". At that point the system cannot find any bootable source and fails.
I also get an error message "Not Enough Space to Copy PCI Option ROM".
Unfortunately, MSI's tech support is passing the buck on this one. They're saying:
Then sound like the card and the board sata controller are not compatible. If the card is connected it disable the onboard SATA controller. Once the card install the port is enable again. please check with the card manufacture. thanks
I really find this annoying as the card works just fine in other systems. It's having an issue WITH THIS MOTHERBOARD, but they tell me to go to the card manufacturer. The real problem is NetCell went out of business a few years ago, so they're not available to go to.
So, the quick and dirty is the manufacture of the only motherboard I've had a problem with concerning this card won't help, and the card manufacture cannot be reached. I'm hoping someone here may come up with a workaround.
I'm trying to consolidate down to 1 computer, and I specifically purchased a case and power supply with this RAID migration in mind. I'm gunna be PISSED if I can't use a RAID array I spent close to a grand for (a couple years ago)!

MSI continues to blame the chipset or PCI card for the incompatibility (not the motherboard), saying there's nothing they can do.
Does ANYONE have an idea other than setting aside my RAID array?

Help please Problem Raid K8N Diamond Plus

I have a PC with mather board K8N Diamond Plus 2HD maxtor 80gb (6V080E0) sata II. You can help me I am becoming crazy I must mistake in the bios or in the raid, I just do not succeed to install windows on 2 HD Sata II are compatibility problems?
Thank

Welcome!!
Firstly, may I suggest you give as much system information as possible, this will help us to assist!!
Second, I recently set up my RAID 0 and had an XP installation problem, but I believe mine was caused by my motherboard not liking the new 1.2BIOS.
As soon as I went back to the default (1.0) BIOS, no probs!

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