DIMP - Two materials in same Production Order

Hello experts
anyone knows if it is possible combine two materials in one production orders with DIMP component?
The scenario is for print flexible packaging, in one flexo printing machine we can print 2 different product with similar structure and characteristics like width, weight, colors and so on.
This FERTs consume the same raw materials (BOPP Film, same colors of ink). the last process is cut the roll for obtain two different flexible packaging.

Dear Ismael,
You will have to test it, but i believe it's possible.
If the order BOM has co-product, then settlement will have 2 entries. You can change the ratio over there, to settle to one material. So, the costing will happen accoridnlgy. There's no change in logistic process.
Another option is to change BOM prior to creating the order, if you know the details beforehand. But, correcting master data is not a right practise.
Thanks
Prem

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The scenario is as below:
Client wants to manufacture in house some of the raw materials for a production order of sub assembly. These raw materials are made from scrap, with some manhours spent on it. After making them in house, these are handed over to stores for kit preparation.
The planner wants to create a stock of these materials (without making individual prod. orders since there are many of these). One option is, planner can do the cost centre issue reversal (202 movement). But the raw material cost is also getting captured in it from the material master.
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Hi Chetan,
Your scenario has some major issue.
1. You cannot produce RAW material in SAP.
2. The cost of material produced inhouse will be different than that of original RAW material.
3. There will be some cost effect in the final finished product if you consider this inhouse produced material for product costing of finished goods.
We have similar scenario with my client and here is what I have implemented.
1. Create a new HALB type part number for the inhouse manufactured RAW material. This will ensure that you assign Routing and BOM to same and can capture the COST for the same.
2. Creating new material will enure that the product costing for inhouse produced RAW material is done.
3. You can create single Production order for the same as you only have to capture cost. This depends on your Business scenario.
4. Once you have inhouse produced raw material, you can create alternate BOM for the FINISHED Material with this new Part number in BOM.
5. Create Production Version for the two BOM and ask Planner to select the Version 2 if he requires new part number in Production Order. I assume that this case would genrally appear in very small numbers.
6. Now coming to product costing for final assembly. Since we are going to reuse scrap material to create the new part number, only activity cost and component cost will be used to determine cost. This cost will be less than that of RAW material cost.
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I hope i have not made is confusing.
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you are not going to create two material codes in case of split valuation.
you can refer the following links for split valuation
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http://help.sap.com/saphelp_46c/helpdata/EN/1c/1a39516e36d1118b3f0060b03ca329/content.htm
http://help.sap.com/saphelp_46c/helpdata/EN/1e/dc30b3efb511d1a7aa0000e8a5f6c8/content.htm
http://www.sap-img.com/mm025.htm
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Accounting Entries for Materials Return from Production Order

Dear Gurus,
I have a scenario here that a raw material, valuated at moving average = 151 and qty = 100, was issued to a production order last month. Due to some issue the order was not completed for a while and 93 qty was consumed for the order and because the remaining 7 were excess they were returned to the storage location. By that time the MOV had changed from 151 to 185 and the 7 qty was returned not at 151 (which would be correct) but at 185. This is a wrong accounting entry as it is showing an under consumption for the order.
Anyone have an idea why the system is doing this because the material should be returned on the price it was issued at so that the accounting entries are knocked off (The accounting entries for return deliveries to vendors are of the same price that they are recieved no matter how ever long a period they are returned). How do we stop the system from doing so and if it cannot be done what is the solution to the scenario.
Regards,

The normal entires are as follows (depending on your configuration);
1) Goods issue;
Credit inventory and debit COGS;
2) Billing document;
Debit customer account credit sales accounts;
3) Payment;
Credit customer account and debit cash/ checking account
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thanks

hi all,
thanks for your support, i found similar query in some sample queries by SAP. with some edition i managed to get what i need. here is the code maybe someone will find it helpful.
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t10.OnHand as 'OnHand1',
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t11.OnHand as 'OnHand2',
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t16.[quantity] * t0.[Quantity] * t1.[Quantity] * t2.[Quantity] as 'ExtQty3',
t12.OnHand as 'OnHand3',
case when t12.OnHand - (t16.[quantity] * t0.[Quantity] * t1.[Quantity] * t2.[Quantity]) > 0 then 0 else
-(t12.OnHand - (t16.[quantity] * t0.[Quantity] * t1.[Quantity] * t2.[Quantity])) end as 'Shortage3'
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LEFT OUTER JOIN ITT1 T2 on T1.Code = T2.Father
LEFT OUTER JOIN ITT1 T3 on T2.Code = T3.Father
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LEFT OUTER JOIN ITT1 T5 on T4.Code = T5.Father
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left outer join oitm t14 on t4.code = t14.itemcode
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Planning file entry is not getting created when I receive material from a Purchase order where account assignment category is 'F' - Order. In other words, the material is received against a Production Order.
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1st Scenario
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Can we generate two invoice for same product in two different currency

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actually we are in export sales
so we are generating export invoice.
my client is asking for another invoice in INR too this is called comercila invoice
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1.export invoice in foreign currency
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Hi Subrat,
I really dont know how this scenario can be handled.
2invoices for the same order is not allowed legally also. So if the user is asking for it, may be first they need to discuss this with their legal department.
If they say ok, then you may think of only an output, where you can change the values with a standard exchange etc. But having 2invoices in the system of different currencies for a single sales order will lead to lot of problems in reporting.
Can somebody throw some light on this, on how to enable this without any problems.

Order Dates in production order

Iam having common routing for two materials in same plant.
I use leadtime scheculing in MRP for both materials.
Iam using MTO scenario.
Iam getting production dates as per routing dates for one material and basic dates for other materials.
i want routing dates . Iam using different order types
Please advice how to get it
Edited by: mayuresh bhurke on Jan 17, 2009 9:44 PM

Hi Mayuresh,
1.What level MRP run is carried out (ie MD01 or MD02)
If you run MRP in MD02 have you selacted Lead time scheduling indicator.
2.Check the selaction indicator for Both material and make sure that both are maintained same.(incase of using Production version) Because routing and BOM selection is based on this indicator only.

Batch split during production order confirmation

Hi All,
This is the process which is followed at our customer end, they want to split the batches during confirmation,
1.Production order created
2.While going through each operation, some components are failing in the in-process inspection and they need to be quarantained for further process,(it may be rework, scrap, etc)
3.Now the question is we want to create individual batches, say for example out of 100qty which went operation number 10, 50 were found to be o.k. and the remaining 50 are having defects, we want to create two different batches for this scenario at the time of confirmation.
Is there anyway in SAP todo this , like userexit
Has anybody has gone through similar scenario's
Thanks in advance
Regards
Venkat.

Dear Vanket,
In the operation you can confirm Yield, Scrap and rework quantity.
In your case in each operation you need to create a batch for each qty what you enter.
As I told you before batch can be created either production order release or during GR.
In each operation you are not going to perform GR, hence batch creation is not possible.
You have 2 options as I see.
1. Create different intermediate materials and have production orders for each operation so that you can do the GR for each production order.
You can have the same batch for each stage material so that issuing material and production materials are different but batch is same.
If there is any defective quantity you need to decide you want to scrap it or you want to go for rework. If you want to go for rework then, using trigger point function you can create a auto rework order for the qty of rework entered during confirmation.
2. Second option is you can create a production order as you are doing now, but you need to create batch manually in MSC1n transaction for rework as well as yield qty.
You can confirm the yield qty and rework qty, but you cannot assign the batch as you are not performing GR. You can enter the batch number in the confirmation text field for information purpose. During the final operation when you do the GR, assign the batch to yield qty and post. About the rework qty you are not going to post qty to store, you need to create rework order and confirm the qty, during GR you can assign the batch and do GR.
If you ask me if you need to strict process to represent your case you need to go for first case.
Please go through the above carefully and test the cycle and come back if you need any clarification.

To restrict Issue for production than planned qty in production order

Hi Experts,
In my scenario, the production staff will prepare production order and right click in production order document and select "Issue Components" option to Issue raw materials for production floor. After issuing the raw materials to production floor closes the "Issue for Production" document and now we have "Production Order" document open in screen. When he again select "Issue Components" option and issues the raw materials once again. Materials are issued once again wrongly. This happens since the production order document is not getting refresh after "Issue for Production" document is done.
Is there any way to restrict issue of raw materials than the planned qty.?
I have tried lot of ways to restrict this through SP. Please revert me an solution to this issue.
The procedure should trigger immediately when the "Issue Components" option is selected second time (If the raw materials are issued in full in first time itself). And it should allow only the qty which is to issued to production order qty (if they issue part issue to production order)
Thanks in advance
Raja.S

Hi Neetu,
Thanks for your quick response. I have tried this query. But it is not blocking the issue for production document even the raw materials are issued already for the production order.
I'll explain my work flow again. The Production staff will prepare production order and then release the same and update the production order after changing the status for "Release". Then he will right click the Mouse button and select "Issue Components" option and perform the Issue for Production process. He will issue the required raw material completely in one shot and add the Issue for Production document.
After adding the Issue for Production document he will close that document and now we will be in Production order document. Now our production order document will not get refreshed. Now the Production staff go for "Issue components" option, then it should not allow him to issue the components once again. But it is allowing him to issue components any number of times. there is no control.
If we browse the production order document to previous record and browse back to the same record then my Production order document get refreshed and now we can control the issue. But what should i do to control in the earlier case. Since they want to perfrom lot of production order, there is a chance to issue components for same production order more than one time before the production order document get refreshed.
Please provide me the SP to control this scenario.
Thanks in advance.
Raja.S

Production order costing issue in MTO with variant configuration

We have an urgent issue to be resolved in production order costing in MTO scenario.
We have two level configuration with configuration passed from parent to children. The parent has many configurable materials as child(semi finished BOM items) and BOM items of these child has again different raw materials(3 level BOM with last level being all raw materials) . The production order for parent created with reference to sales order.
While costing production order of parent, total planned price is displayed as zero as we have maintained price control std price for all configurable materials(parent & child) with zero price being configurable materials.Configurations are correct in production order material and BOM components(configurable materials). BOM item selections, Item quanties are also correct.
Sales order costing is working fine and rolled-up correctly as per costing settings. We have looked at costing configuration for production order and did not find anything unusual.
Kindly suggest possible reasons for not showing costing result in production order as per configuration copied from sales order or any possible configuration or master data likely missing ?
Thanks in advance.
Kind Regards
Ganeshan Kalembeth

Dear GANESHAN KALEMB,
Kindly open production order in change mode and reschedule order, cost order, check material availability and check capacity availability.
after doing this in main menu goto > log > overview > see error list if there is any, let me know, your problem can be solved.
Thanks
Muhammad Ashfaq

Control on production order consumption agianst BOM

HI Experts,
Post Implementations i have two issues related to production order.
1.Can we stop production order from confirmation if consumption of material are excess than what is defined in BOM ?
If yes, what setting i have to do in system.
2.Our users are replacing the material in production order against what has defined in BOM, if this replacement of material has maid then system should not allow user to confirm the order. i this is possible ?
If yes please let me know what changes i have to do in system
Thanks in advance
Parag

Dear Parag,
Check with these user exits in T Code SMOD,
PPCO0007 Exit when saving production order
PPCO0008 Enhancement in the adding and changing of components.
Documentation for PPCO0008,
The enhancement serves to check components that have been added to an order or changed
for example, against a standard material database).This check can reject the transfer of components to
the order in some circumstances or replace the material number with another.
The enhancement is given the material number, the plant and the storage location of the component
entered by the user (or of the components the user has changed). Also, the order header data is
copied to the structure I_ORDER so that the check can also include order-related values. However,
changes to values in this structure are not copied!
The check should copy back the material numbers to be processed (as well as the corresponding plant
and storage location) in the structure E_MATERIAL. If the data was changed then the structure
E_MATERIAL is always filled completely!
For the material returned (if E_MATERIAL is filled) the checks specified
in the program standard are run. It can happen that the enhancement is
called up for the replaced material number!
If the component is not to be copied at all then the check must trigger
the exception MATERIAL_REJECTED which then leads to the adding or
changing being cancelled.
Partly for this reason but also for example for the case of one materia
number being exchanged with another there is the structure E_MESSAGE in
which a message can be copied back to the calling program. The followin
belong to the message: the application, the message number, the level o
gravity (information, error, warning,...) as wellas four variable texts
that replace the corresponding place holders in the message. If this
structure is filled then the calling program makes sure that this
message is displayed. In the application CO the message 877 was already
created - it can be used to tell the user that a material number has
been exchanged.
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was filled then the calling program displays the message. However, if
the message is not an error or a termination then this message is
displayed as an error.
PPCO0023 Checks Changes to Order Components
You can also search the forums for this same type of issue, and I hope you will good number of
souggestions.
Regards
Mangalraj.S

Production order different M/C confirmation

Hi all,
If possible to entry in single work order two machine production confirmations.
Example:
Work order: quantity 1000 pcs
M/C used: High -500 Pcs, Low speed -500 Pcs for this flow how can make it entry in production order information
Advance thanks

Mr.Jack
Yes it is possible to confirm same Production order with different work center.
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