DIP - Sales Price -Resource related biling

Hi All
Please refer discussion - Sales Price -Resource related biling
My case is more or less same as above discussion. I completely understood the DIP settings you mentioned, as far as my case is concern, this is purely a service company where they use ZPSV and ZPSF and pricing conditions to bill the customer. I can see EK02 with correct value in DMR, how can i bring this EK02 value appear as Net value
1) Do i need to create PR00 and check the settings required to copy value of EK02 to PR00...
OR 2) What is the pricing procedure set up to bring the EK02 value to ZPSV or ZPSF.
ZPSV and ZPSF are Service price item ans flat serive price... these are manual conditions
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Hi suresh,
EK02 is just cost collected from your service order. If you want to Bill the customer only the cost you can copy that EK02 value either to ZPSV or ZPSF with just tweaking your pricing procedure steps
or if you want to add markup ( marginal value) on EK02, then calculate on EK02 with percentage of profit and put this on manual condition type
above said procedure depends on how you want to bill the customer, based on your requirement you can select any of the above approach
revert back if you still face some problem
thanks
santosh

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hi,
The Price of a Customer-specific services are not determined by Standard Prices .
For example
Make to order production
Plant maintenace
Resource related Billing is used in the CUSTOMER SERVICE and PROJECT SYSTEMS
We use the RRB process to bill the customer for the Material consumed and the Costs incurred in the customer project.
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Create the Sales order in VA01 which has the DIP profile assigned
Now Using the Sales order create the BILLING REQUEST in DP91
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Dear gurus,
can anyone explain the process of resource related billing and service quotation in step by step.
if possible mail me the screen shots also in this email-id
[email protected]

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Maintaining Profiles for Sales Order and Billing Request
Use
The Dynamic Item Processor (DIP) profile defines and controls resource-related quotation and billing for service orders and sales documents. It may be maintained in either the Customer Service or the Sales and Distribution section of the IMG. The DIP profile allows flexible determination and translation of actual labor, material and other costs into sales materials for appropriate pricing and billing.
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IMG Menu Project System ® Revenues and Earnings ® Integration with SD documents ® Creating Quotations and Project Billing ® Maintain Profiles for Quotations and Billing
Transaction Code ODP12.
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DI Usage SD Ty BC12
1 Billing & Results Analysis Z2TC
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Line Source Percentage
1 0001 Actual Cost - Line 100
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Transfer Quantity/Costs Material Determination:
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Activity Type
Z2TC
I00342 X (Transfer Cost & Qty) Checked
I00984 X Checked
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Go through t.code DP90
1.U will get "resource related billing request initial screen.
2.U enter ur "Srevice order", then select "Expences" button.
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Then u will get the overview screen.
Link service order to a quotation thru transaction DP90. The quotation will be created with reference to the service order. The business scenario is that you are creating a quotation for the job to be done. The line items in the quotation are based on resources and materials planned in service order.
CHAN
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CHAN HARI

Collective Billing Document for Resource-Related & Order-Related Items.

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I had an interview last week and one of the major questions was about resource related billing..
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The price for customer-specific services are not always defined in a contract as fixed prices, nor can they always be determined using standard pricing. This is the case if, for example, no empirical values exist for specific services, and therefore the services cannot be calculated adequately before conclusion of a contract. Typical examples of this are:
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I understand your process is like service processing with a service contract.
Here you raise a service order were you maintain your Unit at the bottom of header screen of service order (IW31), in "Oprtn Duration" along with time.
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Edited by: D.Srinivasa Rao on Nov 16, 2011 12:50 PM

Resource Related Billing doc

Hi,
Can anybody give me some config doc on RRB or send to [email protected]
Thanking you
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HI REFER BELOW REWARD IF HELPS
http://help.sap.com/saphelp_46c/helpdata/en/59/54fc37004d0a1ee10000009b38f8cf/content.htm
Resource-Related Billing
Use
The prices for services performed for individual customers are not always stored as fixed prices in a contract or determined using the standard pricing procedure. For example, you may be performing work that is wholly new for you. Typical examples of this are
Make-to-order production
External maintenance in the service company
Specific services, such as consulting
Orders like these are billed on a resource-related basis. In the billing document, the customer is provided with information on, for example, individual materials, internal activities, and costs. The billing document is based on the billing request .
Implementation Considerations
The resource-related billing function that was available before Release 4.5A ( static processing) has been replaced by an extended resource-related billing function. A conversion program (report RDPFLOW00) is provided to enable you to convert from the old to the new billing functions.
Features
Pricing
The system uses a pricing procedure to determine the prices for the subsequent billing request, based on the quantity and material. You can edit the billing request in the following views:
Expenditure view
Sales price view
For more information, see Pricing .
Application
You can use resource-related billing for the following objects:
Items in an SD document with controlling objects (that is, costs and revenues are recorded in the SD document)
Items in an SD document referencing a WBS element from a customer project
Items in an SD document referencing a production order or internal order
Non-revenue-bearing service orders referencing an item of the sales document
Revenue-bearing service orders
This means you can use resource-related billing in the Customer Service (CS), Sales and Distribution (SD),and Project System (PS) application components when processing sales and service orders.
For more information on resource-related billing in the application components, see:
Billing Process (CS)
Billing Process (PS)
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Can anyone provide me notes on Excise and Sales Tax/ VAT related issues(Pricing Proc/Condition Types/Sceanrios etc) at my mail id [email protected]
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Please read the real life SD - FICO scenario given below and if you think you have the solution, kindly state your suggestion. Would be much appreciated.
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Engineering Services Orders (Inter-company)
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Process (To-be)
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Refer to the document: J48 - Project with Intercompany Billing
Link: http://help.sap.com/bp_blv1500/BL_India/index.htm
This is a very good document for guidance.
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