Does Aperture use Adobe Camera Raw in any way?

Does Aperture use Adobe Camera Raw in any way? Is it important than I upgrade ACR if I do not use Photoshop?
Jerry

Thanks for the relies, guys!
I suspected that there was no connection between Aperture and ACR, but wanted confimation of that fact. You've answered my question.
Thanks again,
Jerry

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  • Aperture and Adobe Camera Raw

    I would love to set up Aperture to allow me to edit images in Adobe Camera Raw.  I can open images from Aperture in Adobe Camera Raw by setting Adobe Bridge as my external editor, but none of the adjustments are saved in Aperture.  From Bridge, I can also save the file as a dng file that Aperture should be able to read and save it in the numbered folder where Aperture placed the original raw image, but the saved dng file doesn't show up in Aperture.  Apparently Aperture can't see any images in its own folders if it didn't place them there.
    I also tried making my adjustments in Adobe Raw, saving it as a dng file and then importing it into Aperture.  This is not ideal, as it would be convenient to do the Adobe Raw adjustments from within Aperture, but it does allow me to import the edits into Aperture.  Aperture does something odd in this case.  When I open the imported dng image in Aperture, at first it displays it with the edits I made in Adobe Raw but after a few seconds reverts to the originla raw image.  I can't figure out how to recover the adjustments.
    Can anyone fill me in on the nuances of Aperture in this workflow?  Is there some way I can at least make the raw edits in Adobe Raw and make them available in Aperture.
    Some of this may be my ignorance.  For some reason, I have never been able to fully grok the whole version/master process in Aperture, never quite sure how to move between versions and masters.  I suspect that some of my issues with the imported dng files is a version/master thing that I am not understanding.
    I'm beginning to wish that I had set Aperture up to use external folders rather than place my files in the Aperture database.  I think if I had done this it might have eased my current issues.
    Is there any way to export an Aperture database so it exports the images into folders that correspond to projects and folders in Aperture?  I suspect not, but . . . one can wish.
    Any help with any of this would be greatly appreciated.
    Thanks,
    --Kenoli

    Kenoli Oleari1 wrote
    If this is what is happening, it means Aperture can interpret the ADR data, but chooses not to.  If I could get it to use that data, it could solve most of my issues.
    In the Adobe Camera Raw preferences, there is a section called: 'DNG File Handling'. You can (and may already have) select the option 'Update embedded JPG previews' and use the drop down to select either Medium or Full Size. The result should be (in Bridge at least) that adjustments you make in ACR and then either click 'Done' to save to the .XMP file inside the DNG file or click 'Open' to launch and render the image in PS for further work.
    The result should be an updated embedded JPEG inside the DNG file that can be used by any program that can read DNG and is set to use an embedded JPEG.
    In testing on my machine a couple of years ago on Snow Leopard, the OS X included program Preview did not show the updated previews though. It only displayed the original RAW data. I assumed it either was not set to show any embedded JPEG preview, or was simply not designed to be compatible in that way. Preview uses the same digital camera RAW compatibility function of OS X that Aperture uses. So it did not surprise me to see that it was not working in Aperture at that time. This was either a later version of AP 2 or early version of AP3, but I can't remember for sure.
    It was my understanding that the purpose and function of dng files is so that raw edits made by any software could be accessed cross platform through the open source dng file.  If Aperture simply chooses to ignore that data, it defeats the purpose of dng.
    My understanding of DNG is that it is an archive type file made of (1) a RAW conversion which holds the decoded RAW data, (2) any .XMP file that has been created by the decoding software as well as; (3) ITPC and EXIF metadata and some other info such as ICC profiles and the JPEG preview. You can also opt to include the original RAW file.
    I don't know the extent to which Aperture is designed to support the DNG file though. Does it handle it like a PSD file where it retains the full file content, but only supports displaying it in a limited fashion (e.g., no transparency)? Or should it actually read the .XMP data file and render it based on that info? I don't think this is the case as the .XMP data that pertains to adjustments made by another RAW decoder doesn't seem to be compatilble with the way Aperture is handling adjustments.
    You could certainly test the embedded JPEG in a DNG file by making and saving some changes to the copy of a file in Finder and then comparing the original DNG to the adjusted one using the Preview program. If the changes are not shown, then the issue (or lack of one depending on Apple's point of view) is with the OS X digital camera RAW compatibility function (which they update for new digital cameras periodically).
    If Preview does show the changes, you could then import both the original and adjusted DNG into an Aperture library (even a new test library) and see if it displays the differences. If it does, then this would point to an issue with sending a file from inside Aperture to an external program and then saving back (assuming this still fails to work as you expect).
    Sorry I don't have more. I decided not to go with DNG and just archive with RAW and JPEG depending on what I end up wanting to do with the images.

  • Aperture vs Adobe Camera Raw

    Hey,
    So, lately I've been shooting in RAW and have finally found some time to process some of the images. I am a Mac user, so I have the option of using either Aperture, or Adobe Camera Raw (Lightroom). Can someone please explain to me the main difference between the two programs, in terms of their ability to retouch/edit RAW images. I've had experience with Adobe Camera Raw (through photoshop cs6) and believe it is an excellent piece of software, does Aperture provide the same kind and quality of tools. The reason I am asking is because while I need a program to help process the RAW files, I also want to organize them in a library where I can see my edits. I am currently using iPhoto and I like the way it works.
    So to summarize the question, is aperture as good at processing/editing RAW images as Adobe Camera Raw? If not, why, what are the differences?
    Thanks!

    So to summarize the question, is aperture as good at processing/editing RAW images as Adobe Camera Raw? If not, why, what are the differences?
    Much of the difference between the two has to do with the way brushes work (for local adjustments) and some features.
    Brushes:
    In ACR, the adjustment brush works as a multi-parameter brush where you brush in strokes and can adjust quite a few parameters after adding the brush stroke (e.g., exposure, highlights, shadows, sharpening, noise reduction, clarity, saturation, etc.). ACR adds a 'pin' for each new adjustment which can then be selected to change the parameters of that adjustment.
    In Aperture, you use what is called a 'brick' which is a panel dedicated to the type of adjustment (e.g., enhance, highlights & shadows, edge sharpen, noise reduction, etc.). In this case, you use each 'brick' (or panel) to change the brushed in parameters for that specific type of adjustment.
    In summary; you can add or change more parameters in ACR with one brushed adjustment than you can in Aperture, but both can add or change the same parameters (with the exception of exposure, which Aperture doesn't currently do as a local brushable adjustment).
    ACR has arguably better sharpening and noise reduction control. ACR also has a gradient tool and lens distortion correction which Aperture currently lacks.
    I do find that brush speed is about the same with a lot of adjustments added, with Aperture getting better marks overall.
    All that said, I would be surprised if Aperture didn't receive some of the tools it currently lacks in the future.
    As far as RAW decoding goes, Aperture relies on the OS X camera RAW compatibility feature to render RAW files, so you will already have a sense of what that default render is like with iPhoto and Preview. Aperture can alter those parameters either as a RAW fine tuning preset that you create or with the adjustment bricks.
    FWIW, I have been using Adobe ACR at work (on Windows) since it's inception; and while I like the results with some images with regards to highlights, shadows, sharpening and noise, I can get there faster with Aperture. I also don't agree with Adobe's new rental policy for the CC line, so won't be investing in their products anymore. I quite like the 'App Store' paradigm.
    Hope that helps.

  • Using Adobe Camera Raw as External Editor

    I've recently purchased Aperture 2.1 and am very pleased with everything thus far. I capture the majority of my photos in the RAW format (Nikon NEF specifically), and the one thing I'm trying to work out is this - with iPhoto I am able to choose Adobe Photoshop as my 'External Editor,' and when opening an image for adjustments, iPhoto sends the the picture in its native format. Consequently, RAW formatted images open with the Adobe Camera RAW plug-in, jpegs right into Photoshop and so on. With Aperture I notice that I am still able to select Photoshop as my 'External Editor,' but instead of sending the native format, Aperture allows only the 'temporary' format options of TIFF and PSD (8 and 16-bit). Needless to say, the files open directly into Photoshop -instead of the Camera RAW plug-in that I would prefer for my RAW files. Does anyone know of any work-arounds or possible solutions to this issue?

    iPhoto has no RAW conversion controls, but just makes a copy of the file for iPhoto edits.
    When you choose to edit it in photoshop, it sends the original over to Adobe Camera RAW. This is NOT a non-destructive workflow.
    Aperture has its own RAW converter- a quite good one- so the need for ACR is removed, and the workflow IS non-destructive. You should only be going to Photoshop for the things that Aperture is not designed to do like compositing and hi-end retouching
    The only work around is to export the master then open it in ACR, but that workflow would be senseless.
    Honestly, if you prefer ACR, then you should be using Bridge or Lightroom for DAM as well.
    DLS

  • Lightroom using Adobe Camera Raw Cache

    Just noticed I have a lot of large files accumlating in C:\Documents and Settings\myusername\Local Settings\Application Data\Adobe\CameraRaw\Cache.
    Is this normal? Should it clean out automatically (does not seem to be) or can the size be limited?
    Appreciate any insight.
    ~Bob

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    SIze limit on the camera Raw cache file is controlled in the FIle Handling tab of the Lightroom Preferences (Lightroom|preferences). The default setting for LR 2.0 is 1 GB. BE aware that this setting is also controlled by any other Adobe application that supports Camera Raw (Photoshop CS3, Bridge, etc.). So, if it is changed to 4 GB in Bridge, it is 4 GB in LR. It is a cache used by the Camera Raw and it speeds up Camera Raw applications. When you have finished, you can purge the cache at any time by pressing the Purge Button in the same section that contains the maximum cache size.
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  • Can I edit my RAW files from Aperture in Adobe Camera Raw in CS5?

    I like Aperture for organizing my files and doing simple adjustments. I purchased CS5 and will be taking a class to learn more complex editing. Is there a way to store my photos in Aperture and get them into CS5's Camera Raw in the RAW format? When I try to do that they are tiff or jpg.

    In the preferences you are able to select which file type you would like to export to an external editor, the assumption is that you have made basic corrections and accept the RAW processing in Aperture so want to work with a tif or jpeg.
    If you are wanting to start from you camera RAW file, ie no processing, you will need to actually export the master file and work from it.
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  • Does Aperture use custom Camera curves

    Hi,
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    But it looks like Aperture does not read this information from the RAW file.
    Does anybody know more about?
    JO

    It's not supported.

  • Selection in Aperture , processing in ACR ( Adobe Camera Raw )

    I'm trying to figure out if there is some way to see my ratings from Aperture in finder - on original master files.
    I understand "holy raw" policy and I have been following the threads about painfull renaming techniques
    ( obvious workarounds ).
    Seeing my in Aperture rated raw files in finder is crucial for me because I want to use Adobe Camera Raw for processing .
    I might also use DPP or Capture One for this in some situations.
    (I prefere Aperture for selection work , I love loupe )
    So is there som simple way to do it ?
    One way would be for example if you could give a
    color label ( visible in finder ) to selected master files .
    That would be fine for me .
    And as I understand wouldn't make any changes to the original file ( so it would stay "untouched" ).
    Thanks for any suggestions.

    Just re-read your first post and realised that you want to apply a Finder label to every RAW file based on rating. This is doable, but would require someone to write an app or script, like Adam Tow's app that moves metadata between Aperture and iView.
    The rating for each image is held in the OriginalVersionInfo.apversion file next to each RAW file:
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    <integer>0</integer>
    If you are only grading into two categories and Bridge is doing what you want, then there is no reason not to use Bridge, it's likely to be faster for you, which is the main thing.
    Time - setting up a hot folder takes about ten minutes, and I'd never done one before. On the other hand I know my way around Automator etc., as should anyone dealing with large numbers of images. Most of the extra steps are to bring the converted file back into Aperture, automatically linked with the RAW file as a version.
    Here's to hoping that the conversion quality gets better fast!
    Ian

  • Adobe Camera Raw and Aperture

    Ok.. Please correct me if I'm wrong, because if what I am saying is actually true, then Aperture has some seriously frustrating issues.
    I use Aperture 3 to organize my photos and to do minor corrections, but the majority of my photo editing takes place in Photoshop CS5. I shoot in Raw so I expect to be able to use Adobe's wonderful Camera Raw plugin before opening a photo in Photoshop.
    Aperture gives you the ability to edit a photo in Photoshop and have the edited photo go back into Aperture. Thats a great feature. Unfortunately, it seems that if I try to send a raw photo from aperture to photoshop, it will not open in the Adobe Camera Raw plug in. It simply opens in photoshop. If I just drag the thumbnail from aperture into photoshop, it will open the camera raw dialogue and everythings great.. but if I do it that way, it will not update in aperture once I am done editing.
    It would be totally fine if I could just save the photoshop file and reimport it into aperture, but when I do that, it just shows up as a blank white photo, instead of the actual photo.
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    or is there???? Please give me a solution here or I want my money back.
    Or is there a way to reopen the camera raw function in photoshop, once the photo is already opened?
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    I understand your concern, as I wondered the same thing. You might want to read http://discussions.apple.com/thread.jspa?messageID=11666552&#11666552
    regarding a possible workflow for your situation (altho' they are using CS3, not CS5).
    I use CS4 but want to move to CS5 to get the additional features of ACR (excellent noise reduction, lens-specific aberration controls, etc.) Thus, my interest in using ACR vs AP3 for some of my images.
    I know now that AP3 is doing RAW processing at the moment of import, and that 'file' is no longer able to be processed by ACR via AP3. I was wondering about your trick of dragging the thumbnail to Photoshop and having it open in ACR. I cannot duplicate this, and I've tried different methods. If I could do this, that would be half the battle. (Can you enlighten me?) I will also take a look at Catapult.
    I know of no way to open ACR while an image is open in Photoshop (APS). The plugin seems to kick in only when you open it from Bridge or the Finder.
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    Granted, not having the option of easily using ACR is a tough pill to swallow for those of us who are in the Bridge/APS camp. I will readily forgo the 'pleasures' of using Bridge for AP3. I will NEVER give up APS since I need layers and graphic/text capabilities it offers. So a smooth interaction between AP3 and APS is a must for me. However, AP3 offers so much more than Lightroom, that I won't look back, now that I've made the switch. Good luck!

  • Adobe Camera Raw changes not reflecting in Premiere Pro

    I was super excited to try out the new CNDG support in Premiere Pro CC 2014, but I have to be honest - I am a bit disappointed...
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    PERFECT, click DONE!
    Nothing...For whatever reason, changes are not reflecting.
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    -Loyal Paying Customer

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    ekombokom wrote:
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    ekombokom wrote:
    Camera Raw is an amazing tool for refining an image and gives me the best results compared to SG and Davinci. I was so excited to be able to use it once Premiere supported CinemaDNGs but now I'm confused as to why it's not supported.
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    ekombokom wrote:
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  • Adobe Camera Raw (ACR), Jpeg Files and Metadata

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    Probably not going to happen.
    I agree, Canon's color is better than Adobe's in general - I just didn't know how good the Camera Standard profile might be for your particular camera.  I had hoped maybe they'd made it a very close match.
    Some time ago I got a very nice genius-level Camera Raw forum member named Vit to make me a custom profile that exactly matches the Canon color for my 40D, even to the point of emulating the way Canon fits the entire gamut of the captured image into the sRGB color space, so I'm more than happy.
    Others might tell you that you're silly for wanting the color to match, but I understand completely your position - if you do get that kind of feedback just ignore it and push on.
    Once you've set up a default to use Camera Standard, you may well be able to tweak the dozens of color controls to bring the Adobe default into line with the Canon color.  I did that once before getting my special 40D profile, comparing embedded raw file JPEGs with the Camera Raw preview display with a variety of images - it was tedious but effective.
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  • Adobe Camera Raw - JPEGS - Do Not Auto Refresh

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  • Adobe Camera RAW and Lightroom?

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  • Adobe Camera Raw

    Hello:
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    You'll need the ACR version 6.4, at least.  Use Help...Updates to install the latest ACR (6.5) supported in PSE9.  If that fails, use this link to download the file:
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