Does Symantec Endpoint need additional Malware protection?

I have been approached by a tech company that helps me monitor our systems and they are telling me that I need to ADD Malware Bytes Subscription to my network.  Symantec says that they already handle malware detection, etc.  BUT this other company is telling me I need additional coverage. 
My question is: How many layers do we need?  Is it industry standard to have both??
This topic first appeared in the Spiceworks Community

I had some problems with Norton version 10, but none whatsoever with version 11. I've also used VirusBarrier X6.
VirusBarrier is very configurable but on can give some false warnings if you set it to watch network traffic, monitor for virus-like activities, etc (like it thought Data Rescue was acting suspiciously). VB has warned me about a compromised web page I visited, so that feature works. I've never had a false alert from Norton but  neither has ever found an actual Mac virus so I have no experience with that (NAV has found Windows viruses in attachments, and a Word macro virus).
If you don't want to configure anything and don't want false alerts use NAV. If you want more configuration options such as monitoring Internet port connections, web threats, etc. and don't mind dismissing an occasional false alarm the VB is a good choice.
NAV has never slowed anything down. VB usually is transparent but on rare occasion one of the subprograms has run wild (virusbarrierd or virusbarrierb) forcing me to either kill it or restart my computer.

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    Gatekeeper doesn't depend on a database of known malware. It has, however, the same limitations as XProtect, and in addition the following:
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    10. As a Mac user you don't have to live in fear that your computer is going to catch some terrible disease every time you install an application, read email, or visit a web page. But neither should you have a false sense of safety. The greatest harm done by security software is precisely its selling point: it makes people feel safe. They may then also feel free to take risks from which the software doesn't protect them. Nothing can lessen the need for safe computing practices.

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    Novell does not officially monitor these forums.
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    "martinusen" <[email protected]> wrote in message
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    >
    > After upgrading to Symantec Endpoint Protection (SEP) we are getting
    > Blue Screen after imaging.
    >
    > We have SEP included in our image and after pushing the image to
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    >
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    > updated drivers. Run CHKDSK /F to check for hard drive corruption, and
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    >
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    >
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    >
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