Down payment block indicator

While posting a down payment to vendor through F-48, the item is automatically blocked. Can someone explain the reason behind this.

Hi Prasad,
It is SAP standard functionality, and it meant to prevent the Down payment from being paid when you run F110 - Auto-pay run. Logically the system should not be clearing the downpayment during auto-paymentrun, since the down payment should be cleared manually, hence the payment block.
If at all you want to change the functionality of this you can of course change this in Customising, but my opinion is thatyou should not.
Regards,
Satish Muvva.

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Helloo govind.
You can relaese the document to accounting which are block by payment block through T CODE VFX3.
I think this will solve your problem
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ravi

How to Make MRBR to show the Customised Payment Block Indicator (MIRO) ?

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Currently, from what I know of, MRBR only showing Log Payment Block as follows:
A     Automatically blocked due to existence of blocking reasons
S     Stochastically blocked
M     Manual payment block set in header - no blocking reasons
W     Automatically blocked due to entry via Web Invoice
However during the manual MIRO creation, I put in customised Payment Block G (Block due to XX) in the Payment Tab of MIRO. This G does not get shown up in MRBR.
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Hi Nick.
I just found out that Payment Block Indicator shown in MIRO will appear in MRBR. The reason that it was not shown in MRBR because during MIRO creation, it was set BLANK and then user went to FB02 to change it with other customised Payment Block Value, thus when we run MRBR, it was showing blank under Payment Block column. Thus, we had to resort to LOG Payment Block which gave rise to this thread.
Having understand the importance of how FB02 changing payment block will affect MRBR, we have decided not to let user change the payment block in FB02.
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The invoice document itself cannot be changed by changes to the follow-up documents; this is not programmed. Transaction MRBR therefore continues to display the document as blocked. If this document is released from an MM point of view, the FI follow-up document remains released. Thus the damage caused is restricted to unnecessary work by the user. SAP recommends that you only use the release transactions for releasing invoices."
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RE: During MIRO payment block indicator piks up automatically

Hi All,
Can anyone tell me about this issue:
My user is doing MIRO at that time Payment block indicator picks up automatically for some invoices randomly what could be the reason.
1) there is price differences MIGO and MIRO the same
Pleas let me know the possible reasons to check in my case.
points will be assigned.

Hi,
When you enter an invoice, the system suggests the values that it expects an invoice to contain as a result of the purchase order or goods receipt. If the invoice item differs from the default values, you must determine the reason for the variance by contacting the purchasing or goods receiving department or the vendor.
If a tolerance limit is exceeded, you receive a system message. You can post the invoice in the system, but it is automatically blocked for payment if an upper tolerance limit is exceeded.
An invoice can be blocked for payment due to one of the following reasons:
u2022     Variance in an Invoice Item
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u2022     Manual Block
When an invoice is blocked, Vendor cannot be paid. Invoices can be blocked either automatically or manually. You can block an item by selecting the Ma (manual blocking reason) field in the item list.
When you post an invoice, two things happen:
u2022     The account postings resulting from the invoice are made.
u2022     In the vendor line of the accounting document, the system enters an u201CRu201D in the field Payment block so that Financial Accounting cannot make payment for the invoice.
I hope this will solve your doubt.
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Remove payment block indicator in customer document

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Can any one give the suggestion on this.
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Helloo govind.
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Down payment blocked for Payment"A"

Hi Friends,
I Runnig the APP. All payments get sttled exceprt Down payment. Because while creating the down payment (f-48), Systom automatically picup the Payment Block "A". But posting the transaction i try to remove the indicator"A" Manually, but i was not able to remove that indicator. So due to this reaseon system is not able to settle the downpayment transactions through APP.
Please give the possible sollutions for the ab oabove proble.
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I guess that is the process (whether you consider is automated, manual or partially automated). Here is a link to SAP BPP on this.
http://help.sap.com/bp_bblibrary/470/Documentation/J33_BPP_02_CHEM_EN_IN.DOC
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Considering the above analysis, what do you want to achieve by removing the block on F-48 document? If you still want to remove, I guess what is stopping you is those checkboxes against block ind. A in transaction OB27. If you check the 'Change in pmnt prop.' checkbox, you should be able to remove the payment block in the payment proposal in APP. If the checkbox 'Not changeable' is checked (ticked), you will not be able to remove the block in FB02.

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Hi Prasad,
It is SAP standard functionality, and it meant to prevent the Down payment from being paid when you run F110 - Auto-pay run. Logically the system should not be clearing the downpayment during auto-paymentrun, since the down payment should be cleared manually, hence the payment block.
If at all you want to change the functionality of this you can of course change this in Customising, but my opinion is thatyou should not.
Regards,
Satish Muvva.

Down Payment Blocking and Release

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My company reauires a block for all down payment request and subsequently release by the manager for further processing.
Can some one explain how to go about it. Is it standard SAP??
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I feel this can be achieved in standard SAP as under :
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Blocking a Down payment for a particular vendor

Hi Gurus,
Can i block payments in form of Down payments to a particular vendor. All other bills that are due are eligible to be paid.
I need this control to ensure that Payments for a particular vendor is always against an invoice and not downpayment.
I cannot put the payment block in the vendor master because it will block payments for all other invoices
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Hi.
I am Basically MM guy. To resolve this issue I would like to suggest a work around.
You can use the two payment terms.
1) One payment term in the company code (In vendor master record in the Payment transaction accounting). In this payment term you have set a payment block indicator
By doing this system will block all the invoices or Down payment which are posted in FI. Against this vendor. Hence system will not allow you to pay to this vendor against down payment.
2) Another payment terms in the purchasing view of the Vendor master. In this payment terms do not set any block.
When you post an invoice against a PO your accounting document will not be blocked.
Hence you can pay to a vendor with reference to PO invoice.
I am not sure. I hope it will work. If it helps award me.
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Default Payment Block in Invoices & Down-Payment

Hi Experts,
I want that Payment block to applied to any Invoices / Down-Payment Requests posted in that Vendor's Account.
I have assigned payment block indicator in the Vendor's Master. but still when i post a Invoice / Down-Payment Request, the Payment Block is not assigned by default.
please help me in case if i missing any config part.

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If you want the Payment Block to be applied to any Invoice posted in a Vendor Master, give a Payment Term in the Vendor Master and in the Payment term give the Payment Block.
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Clearing document with payment block

Hi All,
Need to ask, I have an invoice from MIRO -> payment block is = R
I also have down payment -> payment block is = A
When I do partial clearing using F-44 the system won't block me from clearing those documents.
My question is... if those documents have payment block indicator, why SAP allows them to be cleared ?
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Hi,
the payment block key able to block manual payment means the block key will take effect when posting outgoing payment(F-53) or incoming payment(F-28). When posting the two kind of payment, you cannot clear the open items of AR/AP with this kind block key.
However, the block key cannot block the simple clearing transaction(F-44) as you said above. Therefore, the block key cannot block the business that posting payment/down payment at first, then clearing AP using F-44.
In summary, payment block key normally used for automatic payment rather than manual payment.

Down Payment Request--URGENT

I need to configure down payment request in OBXR for various down payment accounts for customers. In SAP we have F as special gl indicator for down pament requests. I have about 4 to 5 customers with different recon accounts. Some of the customers with common recona ccount need to be assigned different liabilty account. In down paymetn request, when I create anotehr gl indicator for eg. 1 or G and check mark on noted items in properties I get teh message that only F special indicator is for down paymetn requests. How do I create otehr special indicators for down payment requests because the system does not let me create any other specail gl indicator. I checked in OBXB where F is set up as special gl indicator for down pmt request. There is no button to add more special gl indicators there.
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The confusion here is that you are trying to create a new Down Payment Request Special GL indicator. You do not need this. What you need to create is a new Down Payment GL Indicator.
Remember when you do a down payment request (special GL F), the system does not post to any reconciliation account. It is just a noted item. It is only when the down payment is made that the system posts an entry to a provisional liability (usually special GL A).
If you want to accomplish the above issue, you can create Special GL items (just like A) but do NOT make them noted items. Only F should be a noted item. Then link these new Special GLs to Special GL F, in the field Target Sp GL ind. Then you can attach the new codes to the different reconciliation accounts that you want.
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How to stop clearing open items with manual payment block.

Dear,
Even though we have set "manual payment block" on payment block indicator in OB27,
I can process to clear open items manually in F-44 though.
Actually user wants to NOT allow to clear once payment block's set in an open items.
SAP documentation says,
"Indicator that documents which are flagged with the relevant blocking key cannot also be cleared during manual entry of incoming payments or outgoing payments.".
Can you advise me why this configuration does not work ?
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There are 2 payment block indicators that are unclear to us how to use them in our business processes:
1, Payment block O Block for netting ED
2. Payment block P Block for Netting FE
Can you please share your experience in what type of business processes you are using these payment blocks and are there also blocking reasons behind these payment block, like we have for payment block R
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Hi Ylee,
Three clarifications from my side in response to your process -
1) Through IMG ---> Material Management ---> Logistics Invoice Verification ---> Incoming Invoice ---> Define Mail to Purchasing When Price Variance Occur, you can be able to set up the message determination so that the related message will be automatically sent to the buyer's inbox as soon as there is any variance between PO price and invoiced amount;
2) Secondly, it is true that once change is made in the PO, the blocked invoice shall also be released through another transaction MRBR.
3) You can also technically define the small difference transaction/event key DIF for automatic posting in case of small difference.
Given your pre-defined process, I would believe that any workflow, once being activated, shall consist of three main steps -
1) The e-mail notification shall be triggered and sent to buyer as soon as there is any variance;
2) Once change is made in PO via ME22N transaction, the workflow will be then forwarded to A/P clerk (invoice creator) so as to either run MRBR transaction or manually remove the payment block indicator;
3) Once this is completed, the e-mail notification will be sent to the buyer (and other related parties, if any) confirming the successful invoice posting.
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