DVCPRO HD to 720x480 SD/NTSC in FCP

Hello - I'm working on a DVCPRO HD project in FCP 6.0.4 (at 59.94 fps). The final output needs to be for SD/NTSC at 720x480, 29.97 fps. Having a tough time down converting in FCP without digital artifacts.
I've researched this on the web quite a bit, and have been unable to find a "standard" solution.
Any suggestions?
Thanks.

An HD capture card. AJA Kona series or even Matrox MXO. Both will downconvert and change the frame rate so that it will output fine to SD...which is 720x486 BTW, unless you are talking about DV.
Shane

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Hi
May be my Amateuristic way can be of help ?
PAL to NTSC or NTSC to PAL
A. Copying commercial DVDs - No Not possibly at all - Not even legal to discuss.
B. Home made DVDs (DVDs without copy protection)
C. Movies from iMovie or FinalCut
• Save as full quality QuickTime .mov and convert this with JES_Deinterlacer (free on internet)
NTSC ---> PAL.
• Most often not necessary - Most stand alone PAL DVD-players playback NTSC
(if TV is old in BL/W)
PAL ---> NTSC.
• If played on Mac - not necessary AT ALL
• If on NTSC DVD-player - CONVERSION IS NEEDED - nearly no Stand alone NTSC-DVD-players
playback PAL at all.
To do this You need to convert the PAL DVD to streaming.DV or full quality QuickTime .mov
• I use Roxio Toast™ to do this (There are no free converter)
• JES_Deinterlacer (free on internet) to convert to NTSC
• Set up an NTSC project (29.97fps or 30) in iDVD and import then burn
I burn to
• Verbatim DVD-R
• Set down burn speed in iDVD to x1 or x4 recommended by many
• Secure a minimum of 25Gb free space on internal boot hard disk before burning (IMPORTANT)
PAL is 25 fps and an analog TV standard of 625 lines
NTSC is 29.97 fps and 520 lines
NTSC (29.97fps) 520 lines - about 640x480 pixels (square) 720x480 rectangular (narrow) pixels
PAL (25 fps) 625 lines - about 768x576 pixels (square) 720x576 rectangular (narrow) pixels
to use a photo 702x480 resp 576 then add 9 pixels on each side to add together as 720
If iDVD hangs on PAL or NTSC.
Bengt W wrote
Deleting iDVD pref. file - should return You into NTSC mode.
Yes iDVD can switch to PAL - BUT as You see with a rather lousy result.
a. Need to convert to PAL - most often not - Most PAL-player can playback NTSC
and on a fairly new TV in color. (old TV in Bl/W)
(Other way around - from PAL to NTSC most often a must - few NTSC-player can use PAL)
b. IF MUST - then use JES_Deinterlacer to do this conversion - so much better and free.
My list on this (or rather PAL --> NTSC - just think the other way around)
I have to send it overseas
That too can be a problem. As USA = NTSC = 29.97fps and EU = PAL = 25fps.
DO Not let iMovie or iDVD do this conversion from one to the other - Result will be Very
BAD
I save the movie as a full quality QuickTime .mov file then I use JES_Deinterlacer to do the conversion - then I cont. in iMovie or iDVD with project set accordingly.
JES_Deinterlacer is free on Internet and there are Pro applications but not that much better and costs are astronomical.
PAL-DVDs - don't play in US
NTSC-DVDs - usually plays well in EU
All plays well on a Mac - What ever.
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Can't figure this out from other posts so I hope ya'll can help.
First of all is 720x405 full res when shot in 16x9 on a SDX900? Second, I want to finish will all the pixels I can so I don't want to pan and scan. I want to just show it letterboxed so the framing is correct. So I need to know how to get that file into a 4:3 sequence. Finally, I also would like to put it in a sequence by itself and this can be 16:9. When I try this now I have to do hours of rendering for a 2 minute clip.
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Wes,
I found the problem. REALLY really stupid.
Somewhere along the line, when creating a new comp in After Effects, my comp's default aspect ratio got changed from "NTSC DV, 720x480" to "NTSC D1, 720x486".
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