E-recruiting - Talent Management Relationship

Hi,
we want to add search functionality to talent management relationship in our e-recruiting solution.
Search must sort on ***, female and male. Does anyone know how to customize this and what prerequisites is needed.
e-recruiting is running eh4.
kind regards,
hilde

Hello,
unfortunately there is no easy way to tidy up a complete e-recruiting.
While for pure HR components there is a way to clear all infotypes through a report SAP once delivered to get rid of database entries which were accidently transfered with a client copy including customizing tables (all infotypes are for any reason type C tables), the business partner integration of e-recruiting blocks that way.
Also doing it manually is not easy, e.g. deleting a requisition can only be done for requisitions marked "to be deleted" and this is only possible in the manager scenario.
We once developed a report to clear a complete e-recruiting system without touching process supporting data like process templates or questionaires for a customer who tested on production to ensure propper set up and a then wanted to clear everything. This took quite some days to get this right - unfortunately I cannot hand this out, I hope for ur understanding here.
Of course you can try to develop such report on your own. Other way would be a new system setup with importing all transports you did so far. Or third just clean up what really bothers ongoing project.
For a production system I would go for new setup. In best case there is a data recovery possible you only have to import the transports. Developing an own report might take you longer than this.
If it is only the dev system I would get rid of all things which could disturb my developments by throwing dumps or slg1 entries. If it is only dev full cleaning is not always necessary. But of course this need quite profund knowledge of the application and the project itself.
Sorry that I cannot offer an easy solution for this problem.
Kind Regards
Roman

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Hi All,
I know that there are many threads on the TREX and have looked at all of them and tried some of the things but i still get the error search not available.
We have created all search connector in the admin cockpit and have indexed all of them with no errors. All 32 of them are active. I then ran report ESH_TEST_SEARCH to test the searches. All of the objects templates return results except the following:
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HRTMC_REL_CP_Q_032
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For most of these templates I get the following error:
Search Engine Error 29 for DHR310HRTMC_FUNC_AREA : attribute not defined for physical index;index esh:dhr310dhr310hrtmc_func_area~functional_areayy has no attribute 'objid'.
For the HRTMC_AUTHORITY_VIEW i get no results, it comes back no values and has a yellow traffic light in the Log viewer. In the Job Log in the Admin Cockpit i see the following
31.05.2011 21:54:23 Object connector DHR310HRTMC_AUTHORITY_VIEW: New status: Indexing
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31.05.2011 21:54:23 Object connector DHR310HRTMC_AUTHORITY_VIEW: New status: Active
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I also activated BADI HRTMC_AUTHORITY_VIEW_DELTA in the IMG and ran report RPTMC_CREATE_CHANGEPOINT_AUTH. I then scheduled ESH_IX_PROCESS_CHANGE_POINTERS for the HRTMC_AUTHORITY_VIEW, hoping the I would be returned with some results.howver
I do have a TMS linked to several org units via relation 741 and this is returned in the test search HRTMC_REL_S_O_RESP. In addition if I go to a Talent Review Meeting in the portal and click on 'ADD' to select an org unit, the managers of the Org Units that I am related to appear on the list. However as soon as I select any of them, they are added to the participant list but non of the nominated talents appear, i get the following message:
'No nominations are displayed since the search is not available'
for all other searches i get the error 'Search is not available' or 'No Relevant Records Were Found for This Search'
I Also checked SLG1 logs after attempting the searches and got the following errors:
2007 for DHR310HRTMC_CENTRALPERSON : NameServer error: no servers found; IndexId:esh:dhr310dhr310hrtmc_centralperson~~sap_talent
Exception occurred in program CL_ESH_IF_SEARCH_RESPONSE=====CP, include CL_ESH_IF_SEARCH_RESPONSE=====CM006, row 4
An exception has occurred
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Exception occurred in program CL_ESH_IF_SEARCH_RESPONSE=====CP, include CL_ESH_IF_SEARCH_RESPONSE=====CM006, row 4
I also tried creating my own serch request using one of the search templates returning results. In this case i used the HRTMC_REL_CP_TB_743 templates with talent group ID as search field and assigned it to one of the search configurations. I then however got the following error.
The following error text was processed in the system DHR : The ASSERT condition was violated. The error occurred on the application server sivrs106_DHR_00 and in the work process 0 . The termination type was: RABAX_STATE The ABAP call stack was:
Method: GET_AUTHORIZATION_QUERY of program CL_ESH_IF_SEARCH_REQUEST======CP
Method: SEARCH_ONE_CONNECTOR of program CL_ESH_IF_SEARCH_REQUEST======CP
Method: SEARCH of program CL_ESH_IF_SEARCH_REQUEST======CP
Method: CONSTRUCTOR of program CL_HRTMC_SEARCH_REQUEST=======CP
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Anyone have any ideas on how i can resolve this.
Apologies for posting such a long thread, just trying to provide full picture.
Regards
Imraan

Hi Imraan,
You should be congratulated on a thorough post! What version and revision of TREX are you using? You should use TREX 7.1 revision 16 or higher. You should also review the PA-TM SAP notes for TREX. I would recommend reviewing some of the following (some you might need to come back to later):
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Also, did you follow these steps once TREX was connected?
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luke.....are you out there??
congrats on your blog being featured right on the SDN homepage... very nice...
http://scn.sap.com/community/erp/hcm/blog/2010/09/20/setting-up-netweaver-embedded-search-trex-for-sap-ehp4-talent-management
and congrats to Chris on his first two excellent blogs....
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http://scn.sap.com/people/chris.mcnarney/blog/2010/09/09/whats-included-with-the-predefined-performance-management-process--part-2
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so we've been testing the delta indexing program very heavily - ESH_IX_PROCESS_CHANGE_POINTERS
we have found that it does not appear to be able to index new hires (new central_person index does not pick up the new CP). The only way this data can be indexed is by running a full re-index. That is problematic for us, b/c we were hoping to only do full re-indexing 1 a week or even 1 a month. our indexes take 2-3 hrs to complete and trex searching is pretty much inoperable during that time.
Have you tested new hires with delta indexing? it seems as a gap in the change_pointers program. We opened up OSS message to SAP.
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4. 0.330 BC-EIM-ESH 1249482 Functional corrections for Enterprise Search 7.01 SP03 26.01.2009
Another area which we found from testing: SAP by default does not delta index structural authority view. What this means is that if a new talent specialist is added with 741 relationship there access to see that structure will not be available in TREX search by default delta indexing. This would also impact existing organizations and positions shifted under existing 741 relationships.
The information in spro is actually quite helpful, you can find it in: talent management and talent development > basic settings > search > BAdI: Activate Delta Indexing for Authorization Data
Activtate the BADI, than the program to "create the change pointers" must run periodically in your system. This is done with RPTMC_CREATE_CHANGEPOINT_AUTH. Once that program creates the change pointers the next time your scheduled delta program runs (ESH_IX_PROCESS_CHANGE_POINTERS) all of the structural auths will be created and indexed correctly.
If we can just now get new hires to work with ESH_IX_PROCESS_CHANGE_POINTERS we will probably only run the full re-index once a week or once a month.
Let me know your thoughts,
Michael
Message was edited by: Luke Marson
Message was edited by: Luke Marson

so if anyone is interested, from my previous post I mentioned that new hires were not getting picked up by the change pointers program.
after further testing though, we found that when the authorization recon program identifies the new hires and appropriately creates a change pointer.
conclusion: to avoid full re-indexing of trex indexes, perform the following steps:
1. implement / activate the BADI - HRTMC_AUTHORITY_VIEW - talent management -> basic settings -> search
2. Schedule program RPTMC_CREATE_CHANGEPOINT_AUTH - every 30 mins, or 1 or 2 hr. This program will capture whenever anything changes from an authorization data perspective. This would include identifiying new central persons (new hires) or new TMC specialist being setup with 741 relationship. This program "creates change pointers" which than feeds the main delta program - ESH_IX_PROCESS_CHANGE_POINTERS.
3. Use Luke's blog on the instructions for the delta program - ESH_IX_PROCESS_CHANGE_POINTERS - this program you can have run every 5 mins, 10 mins, 15 mins, based on your needs. this processes all delta changes, the first time the program runs after the RPTMC_CREATE_CHANGEPOINT_AUTH program finishes it will also processes the data authorization changes, otherwise every other time the program is running it will catch non-data authorization for all the other indexes (employee name change, new performance rating, new potential, position name change, new profiiciency scale, new career profile data, etc).
hope this helps somebody!
michael
Edited by: Michael L Pappis on Oct 7, 2010 12:05 AM

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Good Night.
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This is displayed in my Portal in the MSS
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This was got of a screenshot of Market Place.
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