Eclipse or Netbeans?

first, i wanna say, "i don't want to invoke a debate, and what i want is only some advice."
then, i think i should tell u something about my situation. last month, i decided to hop from a large company to a comparatively small one which i thought could guarantee a better future. but now i think i may have made a mistake... --they let me handle the hole java team without the BASIC programming tools such as Sun Java Studio or J Builder. they told me the financial budget this year did not allow to buy those softwares, and they would buy those softwares next January.
what can i do ? i cannot let 23 computers without a Programming tool...
so which should i choose? Eclipse or Netbeans or...

and u are right one cannot use one's favorate IDE is
vary bad,That wasn't quite my point. It is bad - think of network effects (people being able to help each other) and decreased "tool maintenance time" when all use the same IDE. It is something that needs to be introduced sooner or later, but it just sounded like you had too much trouble at hand as it alsready is. Changing the environment and switching IDEs at the same time might decrease productivity too much.
Introduce the processes, let people get accustomed to them, and then integrate them with an IDE - with useful plug-ins available for the standard-IDE-to-be they might even voluntarily give up their own choice for the standard if they see that it integrates better into the process.
Like Ultraedit users giving it up in favor of direct groupware and repository access... I saw it happen.

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NetBeans or Eclipse: Which is better for GUI development ?

I am relatively new with JAVA, came from embedded software domain mostly in C.
My interest is to learn and develop the GUI applications using Swing.
I am currently in a process of evaluating the IDEs, Eclipse and NetBeans on Linux desktop environment (SuSE 10.3).
My primary findings found that, NetBeans is better equipped with GUI development while Eclipse needs to have a plugin installed.
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atomodachi wrote:
Now I ask a question, what is the best practice to adopt for starting the GUI development ?
NetBeansThis is my preference for IDE's. Please note that as I stated that is my preference. There isn't any best, some are clearly better than others for one reason or another, but once again, that boils down to personal preference.
EclispseNot my preference.
IDE-less development ?IMO: that is just silly. Unless you just enjoy tons of typing; why would you ever embark on doing something without a tool to speed up the process. Now that is not to say that in using your IDE you should start out by just dragging and dropping up a storm and merrily running down the road in ignorance until you hit a rough spot and have things dramatically pointed out that you've really not a clue about what is happening. Use the IDE, but learn how to do the manual processes along with it. That means that sometimes you'll not drag and drop to build your GUI, you'll actually code the entire thing. And you really should learn to do things command-line like compile. Do yourself a really big favor too, learn the debugger. The integrated debuggers is, perhaps, one of the best inventions in productivity tools that has as of yet been invented for developers.
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Eclipse - Why is it such a popular choice over NetBeans?

I've been a Java developer for about 5 years, and for the first 2.5 years the only IDE I used was NetBeans. Since then, in practically every other Java job I've had, the developers all seem to prefer Eclipse over NetBeans, and I can't understand why. Moving from NetBeans to Eclipse was painful for me for the following reasons (among others).
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BinaryDigit wrote:
Thank you. I also noticed that NetBeans is a resource hog compared to Eclipse, so that's one major benefit. Also, Eclipse has a way to do things like automatically define serialVersionUID in several files at once using the Quick Fix feature, but NetBeans doesn't seem to have any such thing. Those are the things I'm asking about - significant differences that would compel someone to prefer Eclipse over NB.Those are minor differences. How on earth is automatically defining the serialVersionUID a significant difference?
Besides, once you've installed enough plugins, Eclipse is quite the memory hog too.
kevinaworkman wrote:
This isn't really the place to post complaints about a particular IDE.Good, because that's not what I'm doing at all. The thread title has a clue if you care to read it.Regardless of the thread title, this will become a useless "which tool is better" discussion. Just like if we were to compare Windows and Linux or say Ruby and Java.
kevinaworkman wrote:
Then perhaps you should ask them instead of us?I'm asking people here for reasons, if any, why they prefer Eclipse over NetBeans.All my Java programming co-workers are using Eclipse as far as I know, it's very much a de facto standard (although I assume there are NetBeans houses too, I've just never worked in one). I came to Eclipse from Visual Age 4 Java and NetBeans has never impressed me. Now IntelliJ IDEA, that's another story.
I'd like to learn more about what the big attraction to Eclipse is. I figure I must be missing something.Well, your story started out as "I've been using NetBeans and Eclipse is different".
If you don't prefer Eclipse over NetBeans, and would rather pseudo-moderate the forums by trying to dictate what can and cannot be posted here, then kindly go away because I don't need your feedback in that regard.Well nowadays we have the real moderators to keep things calm, so no need to waste your breath by telling us to go away.
Especially when I've been here 3 years longer than you.Now now, the "registered" date has less meaning than your senseless drivel. It's the post count that determines your rank in here.
Kayaman wrote:
Then take your whining elsewhere you whippersnapper.
Nobody cares that you're not used to using Eclipse.Oh look, another abrasive prick who'd rather make assumptions than respond to the actual question.Don't get your knickers in a twist.

NetBeans or Eclipse EOL'd?

Hello everyone. It is time for me to select a Java IDE!
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JoachimSauer wrote:
[Check this|http://www.oracle.com/technology/tech/java/htdocs/javatoolsfaq.html]. There's no use in discussing this here.
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> Hi,
>
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>
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>
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>
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>
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Gert
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Thank you, Pkwooster!
Interestingly, the following works quite well:
ltsmm@gertlx:~/eclipse/HelloWorld$ java org.HelloWorld
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ltsmm@gertlx:~/eclipse/HelloWorld$Can I ask why you think the classpath needs to be set when I am running 'java HelloWorld' in the same directory containing the class?
OK this works too, think I see how the classpath works(kind of!):
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ltsmm@gertlx:~/eclipse$Ok the above is ok for a single project now. My (main) problem is referencing another project from within this HelloWorld project.
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package org;
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What I would like to happen when I click 'build' on HelloWorld project is the following (if possible - is this what Ant is for?)
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