Excessive Traffic on Port 445 between 2 Domain Controllers

Hi, my company has over 45 DC's across about 25 sites worldwide.  We are noticing a lot of traffic using wireshark and Network Monitor on Microsoft-DS port 445. I have been searching if this is normal and what I see is that it is used for SMB File and
print sharing. Well, I don't have any file shares on these DC's other than the normal admin shares and sysvol share. I don't believe this is replication traffic since these 2 servers are not replication partners. I have checked sites and services to make sure
the intersite and intrasite connections look good.   This traffic is constant over weeks and it is about 1 GB an hour between the 2 servers.  This would not be a big deal if this was just on the local LAN but it is over the WAN and
that saturates the line.   Should 2 DC's be talking that much that are not even replication partners?  What type of traffic could it be.  I am at a loss for troubleshooting this.  I have done packet captures but that really does
not tell me much ( that I can read anyway).  Oh, I have run AV scans alos and finding nothing.
Any help would be greatly appreciated.
Steve
Steve

Actually, DFS/FRS/DFSR replication is not related to NTDS replication. It uses a directory change notification event to trigger replication to a replica, and that is to all DCs in the domain. That's why you can have SYSVOL replication problems but AD replication
of the partitions do not have problems, such as when you create a user on one and it replicates to it's NTDS partner.
Below is a summary. You can read about how the whole process with NTFRS/DFSR works in the links below, if you like:
Introduction to Administering DFS-Replicated SYSVOL
"DFS Replication technology significantly improves replication of SYSVOL. ... When a change to a file occurs, FRS replicates the entire updated file. With DFS Replication, for files larger than 64 KB, only the updated portion of the file is replicated."
"To replicate only updates to files, DFS Replication uses an algorithm called remote differential compression (RDC). RDC detects changes ... without having to replicate the entire file. RDC detects insertions, removals, and rearrangements of data
in files. The DFS Replication service monitors SYSVOL, and, if a change occurs to any file that is stored in SYSVOL, DFS Replication automatically replicates the file updates to the SYSVOL folders on the other domain controllers in the domain. "
http://technet.microsoft.com/en-us/library/cc794837(v=WS.10).aspx
How FRS Works - Windows 2003
http://technet.microsoft.com/en-us/library/cc758169(v=WS.10).aspx
DFS Replication: Frequently Asked Questions (FAQ)
http://technet.microsoft.com/en-us/library/cc773238(v=WS.10).aspx
I think 316 MB in SYSVOL is a good amount of data. What is in there taking up that much space? Is something using SYSVOL to store it's data, such as an app that's constantly changing data?
The reason I'm asking is that this could be the cause of the issue, since if it changes on one DC, then it replicates, then another change occurs, etc., and it keeps going and it appears that a ton of data is being moved back and forth.
Quick story - I remember a customer was using SYSVOL to store data so they can access it across the WAN link. He said he did it because of its "cool" replication features. I said, yea, but it's meant for domain data (GPO policies, templates, etc.)
and not for custom data. Create a DFS share for that so it works independently of SYSVOL.
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