Export 25fps to 24 fps

Hi
I have a 25p final cut project which uses 25fps source files
I need to create a 24p movie for broadcast
Is this possible or would I need to get the source footage as 24fps ?
Thanks

Well, if you drop ONE frame every second, you will have a stuttery looking product. YOu can use Compressor for this, as it will somehow spread out the frames. But I haven't done that so I can't give exact settings. I either conformed (only for footage that I used in a show, not a show), or we sent to a post house for hardware conversion.
Shane

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If the software reading frame rate incorrectly, then why mov file didn't play back properly on the theater projector system? 24 fps does play properly on the same system. Video edited on PremierePro submitted by others at 23.976 fps does play properly.
I just did export of short (~2GB) segment of the same sequence I was working on:
one export with 23.976 fps, the output mov reads 22.79 fps (different reading than the prior 23.7 fps)
the other with 24 fps, output reads 24 fps.
I checked my previous export (a month ago) ProRes 23.976 fps, the output mov reads 23.98 fps.
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The reason i am asking is becuase by now i have a theory but i need it confirmed. the video i am using runs at 24FPS average but i am rendering out in 30FPS. now the issue that comes into play is the fact that the video and audio drift out of sync in parts and gets progressively worse as time goes on. is this because of my export FPS is higher than my video's FPS or is this a common issue with any type of exporting?
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http://www.adobeforums.com/webx/.3bc120a8/5
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If I use the equivalent F4V preset, the file comes out 2 to 3 times larger than it should.
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Thank-you Jim.
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AME 5.0.1.0
Good thinking on version number, I just did a small update, following CS5 instalation/update 1 month ago.
I was already on same version numbers and the 20mb 'extension' update hasn't changed anything.
I usually export direct ftom PP, haven't got in to the habit of using AME yet, though with new fast pc and small test clips I haven't really needed it, but tried via AME to see if had different results but resulting file is 3706KB (1943 KB via flv).
The 'expected file size says 1MB (though 2MB would be nearest integer for expected results).
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File Path: D:\adobe_tests\z1e_1_768_432_900.f4v
Type: MPEG Movie
File Size: 3.6 MB
Image Size: 768 x 432
Pixel Depth: 32
Frame Rate: 25.00
Source Audio Format: 44100 Hz - compressed - Stereo
Project Audio Format: 44100 Hz - 32 bit floating point - Stereo
Total Duration: 00:00:16:01
Average Data Rate: 231 KB / second
Pixel Aspect Ratio: 1.0
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Your NTSC content being around 25% bigger no doubt means more compression to maintain preset data rate, which is to be expected.
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File Path: D:\adobe_tests\z1e_1_768_432_900_30fps.f4v
Type: MPEG Movie
File Size: 2.6 MB
Image Size: 768 x 432
Pixel Depth: 32
Frame Rate: 30.00
Source Audio Format: 44100 Hz - compressed - Stereo
Project Audio Format: 44100 Hz - 32 bit floating point - Stereo
Total Duration: 00:00:16:01
Average Data Rate: 165 KB / second
Pixel Aspect Ratio: 1.0
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OK, so this happens all the time to me, but usually the cable stations can deal with it. I have a new system I'm uploading to that rejects my files.
In my latest case, I'm editing in 23.98 fps (footage from RED) and exporting to 29.97 fps, ProRes HQ 1920x1080. Even though FCP only has enough contect in the sequence for exactly 30:00 sec, I keep getting random extra frames such as 30:07, 30:05. Sometimes it comes in under at 29:26. This also happens if I use an out point before exorting.
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Did you try Compressor? Because simply exporting out of FCP that way won't make the cadence work. Export a full self contained file from FCP, then take that into Compressor with these settings:
23.98 to 29.97 via Compressor:
1. Drop clips you want to convert into Compressor
2. In Compressor, select your video then right click and choose NEW TARGET WITH SETTING > APPLE > FORMATS > QUICKTIME > APPLE PRORES 422 (HQ). Or pick whatever codec you like to work with.
3. Click on that newly created compression setting to open it in the Inspector window. Click the Encoder tab. Click the Video: (Settings…) button. Make the frame rate 29.97. Check the interlaced box. Set it's drop down menu to Bottom field first. Click OK.
4. Click the Frame Controls tab. Set Frame Controls to On. Set Output Fields to Bottom first. Leave Deinterlace on Fast. Leave Adaptive Details checked. Leave Rate Conversion set to Fast. Leave the Set Duration to: on 100% and make sure it's radio button is selected and NOT the "so source frames play at 29.97 fps" button.
5. Make changes to the Filters or Geometry sections as needed. Those settings listed above are the ones critical to getting the proper 3:2 pulldown added.
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Fps question

Hi,
So I cut something in FCP in a 23.98 fps timeline. (video was shot in 24pA). When I export using compressor i export with 23.98 fps. Strangely enough, when I bring the mpeg2 files into DVDSP and look at it in the inspector, it says 29.98 fps. Anyone know why this would be? Is it something to do with exporting in mpeg2?
Thanks!

Am I not understanding P.49 of the manual correctly?
No, the manual is misleading in this regard.
While, yes, your material has been encoded by Compressor as 23.98 fps, that's not actually a legal video rate according to the DVD-Video spec (video for NTSC DVDs must be encoded for 29.97 playback).
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I've got a unique and confusing problem. I am trying to make a video that has a small amount of 60 fps played back at normal speed, soap opera effect and all, placed inside of a normal 23.976 fps project (full of primarily 23.976 fps footage).
I can hear you asking "why on Earth would you want to do such a thing?!" The video project is actually designed to be an explanation and demonstration of why and how higher frame rates look the way they do, a sort of explainer on how our eyes and brains process them, etc., so I need a bit of shiny soap opera stuff, just not the whole vid, because yuck.
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I've got a unique and confusing problem. I am trying to make a video that has a small amount of 60 fps played back at normal speed, soap opera effect and all, placed inside of a normal 23.976 fps project (full of primarily 23.976 fps footage).
I can hear you asking "why on Earth would you want to do such a thing?!" The video project is actually designed to be an explanation and demonstration of why and how higher frame rates look the way they do, a sort of explainer on how our eyes and brains process them, etc., so I need a bit of shiny soap opera stuff, just not the whole vid, because yuck.
The final destination for this project is YouTube, which now offers 60 fps uploads, so my final export would be at 60fps. If I shoot the rest of my stuff at 23.976, how can I combine the two so the normal stuff looks normal in a 60 fps export, and the 60 fps stiff looks shiny? If I drop 23.976 into a 60 fps project/export, won't it get choppy as hell in the final export?
I've got access to PP and AE CS6 and/or CC to get the job done.

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