Feature Request: Metadata Export to Sidecar Files

I want to be able to export an image file's metadata to a sidecar XMP file that is named after the image file but with an .xmp extension. For proprietary raw files, that's the default. For DNG files, I can tediously force it by locking the file, loading it into Camera Raw, and selecting the "Export Settings to XMP" function. However I want to do this for several hundred or some thousand image files at once—so loading them all into Camera Raw just to make it export the metadata is not really a feasible method.
Worse yet, for JPEG files exporting the metadata to a sidecar file is not possible at all, as far as I can tell. When the JPEG file is writable then the exported XMP metadata will go into the file itself. When the JPEG file is write-protected then Camera Raw will entirely refuse to export the XMP metadata. This behaviour is inconsistent with other file types, as Camera Raw will happily export the XMP metadata to sidecar files for write-protected DNG files. By the way, there is another inconsistency between write-protected DNG files and proprietary raw image files, as Camera Raw will export XMP metadata for both into sidecar files but Bridge will export XMP metadata to sidecar files only for proprietary raw image files but not for write-protected DNG files. That doesn't make sense.
If an image file is write-protected then any changes to the metadata must go into sidecar files—as simple as that. Why are proprietary raw image files, write-protected DNG files, and write-protected JPEG files behaving differently in this respect? Sidecar files are fully supported for proprietary raw files, half-way supoorted for DNG files, and not supported at all for JPEG files.
Anyway—I need a way to select an arbitrary number of image files of any kind (in Bridge, not in Camera Raw) and then export all their metadata to sidecar files, one sidecar file for each image file, at the push of a button. It would be nice if I weren't forced to tamper with file locking first, just create those damn sidecar files when I'm asking for them. I'd even be happy with a createMetadataTemplate() or saveMetadataToSidecar() function in Bridge's scripting interface. There, I found a function to load a thumbnail's metadata from a metadata template (i. e. an XMP file; see applyMetadataTemplate() function)—but no way to save a thumbnail's complete metadata to a metadata template. If there is a way then please tell me. If there is no way yet then please provide one as soon as possible!

Curt Y wrote:
My first question is why you want to export metadata to sidecar files. With DNG one of the touted advantages is that all the metadata is written to the file and no XMP file is needed or created.
This actually is a disadvantage that keeps me from using DNG format. XMP sidecar files are extremely useful to transfer updated metadata from the working set to the backup archive. Sidecar files do make life a lot easier.
Usually I will download the memory cards' contents to the computer's internal hard disk. Then I will add some bulk metadata, rename the files, and make a backup to at least one, preferably two external hard disks. Then I will continue working on the images—refining captions, adding more keywords, add labels and rankings, apply ACR settings. Finally I'll want to update the metadata in the backups. With sidecar files, that would require the transfer of kilobytes. Without, I'll need to transfer gigabytes because I'm forced to update the whole image files when actually I only want to update the metadata ... just because Bridge is too dumb to let me export the metadata to sidecar files. Or actually, it does let me export the metadata to a sidecar file—but only for one image file at a time which is totally useless when I need to update the metadata of hundreds or thousands of image files.
The DNG format does support sidecar files. DNG files can have their metadata internally 'under the hood' or externally in a sidecar file. When there is a sidecar file accompanying a DNG file then Camera Raw or DNG Converter will read and use it just as they would for proprietary raw files ... that's very convenient. Only Bridge doesn't allow the user to take advantage of that flexibilty but forces him to use internal metadata always, whether it makes sense or not.

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splinke wrote:
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