Final Product stage confirmation in REM or Discrete?

hi we have decided to go with REM for one manfacturing process in this final product is not going to be dispatched as it will be packed and final packed item will be dispatched so for final item entry in system can i use same REM backflush (MFBF) for packing material+SFG for final packed item or i need to create manual production order for final item?
and Is there any impact if i go with REM?
Thanks
Pari
Edited by: parinethadevi on Feb 17, 2011 6:22 PM

Hi,
it depends on how you want to settle the cost on the product, you can go for REM if you want to settle the cost on periodic basis i.e. monthly.
if you want to settle the cost by batch wise, then go for prod.order.
Regards
Ramana
Edited by: Venkata Ramana on Feb 17, 2011 6:55 PM

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