Firming of planned order

what is the application of firming planned order with out making any changing in the planning time fence in material master
John.

Dear John,
Firmed procurement proposals are no longer changed by the planning run(MRP run). They can only be changed manually.
You can firm all types of procurement proposals:
planned orders
purchase requisitions
Delivery schedules (schedule lines).
The system flags firmed procurement proposals with a star in the stock/requirements list and the MRP list.
Features
Firming by Manual Changes
Procurement proposals that have been created or changed manually are given a firming indicator automatically by the system. You can cancel the firming by deleting the firming indicator at any time. You can also set the firming indicator manually, without changing the procurement proposal.
Firming with the Planning Time Fence
Order proposals that lie within a defined planning time fence are firmed for the planning run if they are set to an MRP type with the appropriate firming type. The firming indicator is not set and they are only firm as long as they lie within the planning time fence.
For schedule lines in the planning time fence, you can firm only the quantities that have already been transferred and not the current quantities. Transferred schedule lines are schedule lines that have been sent to the vendor by telecommunications and have been confirmed.
Firming with the Manual Firming Date
The manual firming date lengthens, if necessary, the planning time fence up to the date entered. This has the advantage over the planning time fence that you can firm procurement proposals for materials with an MRP type that contains no firming type.
http://help.sap.com/saphelp_erp60_sp/helpdata/en/f4/7d2ca444af11d182b40000e829fbfe/content.htm
Regards
Mangalraj.S

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Hello,
Can anyone point me to the Oracle package/procedure that is used in ASCP workbench to insert and firm a new planned order supply? Would like to call this proceudre from a custom program.
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There is no api to insert data into a given plan but Oracle allows you to use the "Legacy Collections" to import/create various data elements (such as Reqs, PO, Planned orders etc.)
See "Legacy Collections" sections in http://download.oracle.com/docs/cd/E18727_01/doc.121/e13358/T309464T309470.htm#T309821
Keep in mind that this takes time to setup. So make ensure that this is the right solution before proposing it.
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Firming of planned orders

Is it possible to firm planned orders automatically after Mrp run.
Does MRP give Trigger to firm planned orders.
I dont want to firm Planned orders when I do MRP first time.

Hello ,
1.It is possible to firm procurement proposal like planned order , purchase reqs to be firmed automatically and also re-schedule them with in planning time fence if you use the Firming type 1 or 2 in your Check MRP Type configuration in SPRO .Basically you need to choose the following MRP type
1.Automatic Firming and order proposal rescheduled out : P1 with Firming Type : 1
2.Automatic Firming with out Order Proposal : P2 with Firming Type : 2
At the same time you have to maintain the Planning time Fence at MRP1 view along with this MRP Type P1 or P2.
If you do not want Firmed planned orders during frist time MRP run , Use MRP Type : P0 with Firming Type : 0
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Mass Firming of planned order

Dear gurus,
I am looking for any tool by which i can make firming of collective planned order.
Thanks,
Das

Hi Das,
In SAPAPO itself, there are standard t-codes to carry out these options.
1) /SAPAPO/RRP_SNP2PPDS - Conversion of Supply Network Planning -> Production Planning
2) /SAPAPO/SNP2PPDS - Conversion of Supply Network Planning -> Production Planning in Background
3) /SAPAPO/CDPSB0 - Production Planning Run - To convert planned orders to production/process orders
4) /SAPAPO/CDPSB1 - Production Planning Run in the Background - To convert planned orders to production/process orders in background.
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After firming planned order, new planned order is generating in MRP run

Hi Experts,
I am using SAP AFS. Planning strategy is 21- MTO with Project settlement. MRP type is PD. Lte size is EX. Procurement type is X.
We are using the production versions. Individual / collective reqmts is 1. Planning time fence is not maintained.
In sap AFS T.Code for MRP run is /n/afs/md02. After receiving the Sales order, MD04 screen gets updated accordingly and I am running the MRP.Planned orders are generated accordingly. I am firming the planned order manually through MD04. The satr mark is also appearing.
My problem starts now. If I am running the MRP again for the same requirements another planned order of the same qty. is getting generated. That means after the second MRP run, I am having two planned orders (one firmed plnd order) and second is the new planned order. My requirement is that MRP should not generate any new Plnd. order / PR's if there is no new Sales order.
The parameters for MRP run are "1" for "Create PR's", '1" for "Plng Mode" and '"1" for "scheduling ".
I have tried in all the possible ways, but of no use. Still new plnd order is generated after firming the 1st plnd. order in MRP run.

Thanks all for your feedback..
@ Vishal
1. Yes, Both Old firmed planned order and newly generated planned order have the same grid value
2. For both the planned orders :
Special Stock is E u2013 Orders on hand,
Consumption is V,
Sales order is the same (As we are using MTO , Strategy 21) and same WBS element.
3. First planned order is not in the assigned tab of MD04. This means that has been allocated to some object. u2013 I didu2019nt got this point. Can u please elaborate?
@ Nikhil
1. Quantity of sales order is not reducing after firming the sales order
2. Account assignment category for both the planned orders is u201CZu201D - Indiv.cust./project
I have made some more observations and found the following differences between the two planned orders
From MD04 , keep the cursor on corresponding planned order
& click on upward arrow ( available on bottom side of the report).
It will show what will be the originating requirements i e. for which requirements this planned order generated.
For Firmed planned order it is taking me to screen u201CPegged Requirements
u201D*And the following data is present:
Planned dates: 04.07.2010
MRP element No. 3100001185 (Sales Order No.)
MRP element item 100
Scheduling No. is 1
MRP element indicator - VC u2013 Order
MRP element data- 3100001185/000100/0001
Plng segment u2013 3100001185000100000
P.O / Order Type u2013 ZX
Rec/reqd Quantity 10
MRP element u2013 Order
For new planned order generated, I am going to Screen *u201CProcurement without Requirementsu201D
*The following data is present
Planned date 03.07.2010
MRP element No. 0000123522 (Planned order No. of the newly generated after MRP Run)
MRP element Ind. u2013 PA
MRP element data 0000123522/SO
MRP element item 1
Scheduling No. 1
MRP segment 20
Plng segment u2013 3100001185000100000
Rec/reqd Quantity 10
P.O/Order type- KD
MRP element u2013 Plnd Order

Firming planned order in rem

hi,
i want to firm all planned orders automatically(rem) .mrp run hapened a day before. i already given always firm in rem profile 0002.
but still not get firming ????

Hi
If you wsith to firm the planned orders through MRP run, then you have to assign MRP types with Firming types in the material master and the PTF. as you require Automatic firming, U can use P1 MRP type. so while MRP run all the planned orders available within the PTF will be firmed automatically and any new requirements within the PTF will be moved to the end of the PTF.
Note system will automatically firm the Planned orders when u make any changes to the same.
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Firmed planned order creates a type of firmed horizon

Hi Gurus,
we had following system behavior the other day (actually a few months ago) that we weren't able to explain.
It was beginning of November and a colleague of mine was creating his production schedule for the week before x-mas (i.e. another 7 weeks in the future). He was working at it and was called away for something and postponed the planning to another day in the week. The next morning he noticed that the MRP considered everything between today (must have been around the 5th of November) up until the 18th of December (the day he had firmed the planned order to) as a firmed horizon and didn't want to put any planned order inside.
Even worse... all planned orders created by the MRP - now scheduled for after the 18th - had an exception message to schedule them in, as they came too late.
Did anybody ever experience this behavior? If yes, please let me know, where I can manipulate this!
Any help greatly appreciated!
Thanks & regards,
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Hi Rupesh,
first of all: thanks for joining!
here are the answers to your questions:
1.) lot-size = EX (i.e. not periodic)
2.) no overlaps defined for EX in OMI4
3.) no time fence and the rescheduling horizon is set to 100 days
Looking at the rescheduling horizon and what is described in the OSS-note, I think I found it. The system actually works as designed. What we failed to do was to update the factory calendar with the downtime over x-mas back then. If we had done so, the demand would have been pulled forward, which means that the firmed order would have been consumed, instead the demand was distributed over the following for weeks.
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Automatic Firmed Planned Order / Mass Change Planned Order

Hi PP Gurus,
My requirement is I want to make all planned order created from planning run will be automatically firmed. I tried several option :
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PIR
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http://help.sap.com/saphelp_46c/helpdata/en/9e/e84226c1c311d3b54a0004ac160649/content.htm
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Dear Arman,
Use T.Code MD19 for firming the planned orders,also check MDBA for firming the planned order.
For your first question let me check and revert back.
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REM Back flush using firmed planned orders

Dear Gurus,
We are using REM manufacturing process in SAP , we are doing backflush for stage wise confirmation and final confirmation.while doing this we are not referring any planned orders as reference.
if we update new part numbers in BOM the system asking for the availbilty of that particular new part numbers but physically we are having old materials .
we want to consume that old materials how it possible in the MFBF t.code.
if any one please help me , if I firmed a planned order with quatity or date then sytem will ask the old materials instead of new one.
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Suresh

Hi
please compare the process when you create the production order manually in Co01 instead of creating the production order by converting the planned order.
Here you are carrying out back flush with out refering the planned order.
It is like creating the production order manually.
In such case system will always look the BOM as of now.
It will not refer any of the planned order & the components there in.
If you want to consume the old parts instead of new parts , you can delete the new part numbers & add the old ones in MFBF. this will be allowed by system.
In this case you are back flushing with out reference to planned orders.System will not ask for old components at all whether planned order is firmed or not.
Once if planned order is firmed a star (*) mark will appear in MD04 near the planned order number.
Once if the planned order is firmed, it will not be changed in subsequent MRP Run.
Hope it is clear.
Pl. award if it is clear else pl. update.
Regards
YMREDDY

Firmed planned orders.

Hi experts,
I am facing one problem regarding firmed planned order consideration during collective availabilty check through MDVP.
In checking group I have marked "check only firmed planned order and Production orders"
Now I have a material "A" and "b" is it's component. I have planned orders of "B" given by MRP and I firmed these planned orders through MD19. Now when iam checking availabilty of material "A" then it is giving availabilty of 0% though I have a firmed planned orders for it's component "B"
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Regards
Deepak Sharma

Thanks Thomas for your input but I am checking the availabilty for Planned order for "A" in which component "B" is there whose planned order is firmed. Actually "A" is FG and "B" is its semi-finish.
So in my scope of check i have mentioned that "Check firmed planned orders only". So when I run the MDVP for material "A" and if it's semi-finish component is having a firmed planned order then the system should confirm me the availabilty of material "A" but it is not happening.
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Multiple planned orders in MRP run

Hi All
I have a requirement where I need to create multiple planned order for the same material during MRP run. I understand that once I run MRP a planned order creates. If I run again for the same material, the quantity will be changed for the same planned order. Do we have any configuration so that system creates multiple planned orders for same material for each MRP run.

Hi Adithya
Planned orders may be changed by MRP until they are firmed. Therefore, what you need to do is to firm the planned orders after the MRP execution.
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Hi,
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Can we define priorities to Planned order?? if so where should we define the same..
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HT

Dear HT,
I have not understood "no concept of production order"
Any planned order has to be converted to production order/process order or you have to use REM.
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