Formatting New Drives
Even though a new drive might plug into a mac computer and allow most drive functions - copy - delete etc... - Isn't it true - that it basically comes as a pc formatted drive and should be reformatted for mac extended?
If you were to buy from MacSales (OWC)? Check them out, good FW and bare drives.
Also, you have to format it to be bootable.
Most drives that I buy are not formatted. If it is not, then the system will ask if you want to. And if it is it could be FAT32, and you should format it, and probably zero the drive as well.
If you have an MDD G4 there is room for four internal drives. If Firewire, you might want to look into adding PCI FW800. Rather than getting just 35-40MB/sec you should get 60-65MB/sec (Seagate 7200.10 ATA drives are great for backups etc).
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Installed m4 crucial SSD and I cannot erase and format new drive. I get an error "wiping volume data to prevent future accidental probing failed." any suggestions? Thanks.
are you trying to format/erase it while it's in your Macbook?
I have 2 Crucial M4 SSD.
Connect via external USB. Boot your computer with your old hard drive and proceed with the erase feature if you're planning on cloning your drive. -
I want to add a brand new drive to my Mac Pro and set it up as part of a 3 disk RAID 0 set. Do I have to format the new drive first using Disk Utility? What format scheme should I use?
Thanks,
JohnHi John,
Many thanks for the Solved Star.
Yes the WD VelociRaptor 300GB drives are 10k RPM. Although 300GB was the largest capacity available when I purchased my VelociRaptors, the latest range extends to 600GB:
http://hothardware.com/Reviews/WD-VelociRaptor-600GB-Fastest-HD-Ever/?page=1
Yes, I am extremely satisfied with my drives, and, as WD give a 5-year warranty, they must consider them to be "Enterprise Class". Otherwise they would just have the industry standard 3-year warranty.
I didn't realise that you had an Apple RAID card, and I have no experience of using anything other than a software striped RAID 0 configuration.
However, from some of the posts I have glanced at on previous pages on the Mac Pro forums, it does seem that some Apple RAID card users have experienced compatibility issues between the card and some drives.
Is it worth considering changing to a software RAID 0 of WD RE4 Enterprise drives?:
http://macperformanceguide.com/Storage-Drive-WesternDigital-RE4-2TB.html
Or a different hardware RAID solution:
http://macperformanceguide.com/HardwareRAID-Main.html
I am glad you enjoyed the MPG article, and, in case you missed it, this is the link for all its articles and reviews, but, beware, you can spend hours and hours browsing through them:
http://macperformanceguide.com/index_topics.html
By the way, I agree that BareFeats is another excellent site. However, as my primary interests are photo editing, digital imaging, and colour printing, MPG is my first stop/bible, because of its bias towards photography related applications. Its author, Lloyd Chambers, is a professional photographer, and so I always follow his Blog as well:
http://diglloyd.com/index.html
Regards,
Bill
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Formatting new drive externally
I have a USB-to-SATA enclosure. So my intention is to connect my 2 new SSD and HDD drives for formatting before taking apart Mac Mini for istallatiin.
When I plug the drives in for the first time, I get a message saying the drives can't be recognized. And then selecting initialize opens up the Disk Utility. From there I can set up the drive properly.
My question is, should I be erasing the new drive first and then setting 1 partition and be done with it. Or just set 1 partition and that's it?
They are brand new out of the box drives. Just curious what is the proper way.I got that part, no problem - thank you. But wondering if i should erase the drive first and then format it or format it and then erase it.
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Finder issue - formatting new drive
I bought a single drive G5 running 10.4.10 (no disks included) off ebay. Before long, I began getting finder errors and mirror agent errors? I bought a new internal drive and Tiger 10.4, thinking I could pull everything off the original drive before it failed completely. During the setup, it asked about using the same keys and I agreed. I'm having the same issues now and can't get the computer to boot off the new drive. Did I make a fatal error allowing the old keys to be used on the new drive? I also let the computer copy off all files etc from the old to the new drive. I'm thinking erasing the new drive and starting over. Should I just re-load 10.4 on the original drive as well? Thanks for any tips.
You can copy them, burn them to CD, etc. I would run Disk Warrior (or TechTool Pro) to check files.
I keep any updaters, installers that were on disk images or downloaded always backed up; on DVD; etc. including any Apple software updates (I only use standalone updates from Apple, too).
I can understand wanting to insure it works. I don't understand someone selling a system - one with 10.4.10 no less - without disks, though. At least now you do and this way you know it is legit retail Apple DVD Installer.
As for failing drive, 70% or more can still have a good life - maybe only for backups - after using Disk Utility Erase Security Option: Zero-All. -
I've just installed a new 160GB drive into my PB G4. Does anyone know how long it takes to format? I've checked the format as zeros option and it's taking aaaaaaaages! Have I done the right thing checking the FORMAT WITH ZEROS option?
Any help or advice gladly appreciated.
Thanks
DanExpect it to take several hours for such a large drive unless you chose one of the multi-pass options which will take even longer than the single-pass.
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MacPro 1,1 Quadcore 3 GHz (2006 "Woodcrest")
32 GB RAM
ATI Radeon HD 5770
OS X 10.7.5 Lion
I have encountered the following behavior when trying to format a new drive with disk utility. This description has also been send via the Mac Pro feedback as a bug report to Apple.
On searching the web and forums with this particular error message and behaviour I could not find any usful results. So maybe the following description may be helpful for some users.
Best regards.
1. Drive Bay 1 contains the original 250 GB Startupdisk. It works without errors.
2. Drive Bays 3 and 4 contain each a WD Caviar Black 2 TB SATA 3 HDD. They work without errors.
3. I have purchased a third WD Caviar Black 2 TB HDD.
4. In Drive Bay 2 there has been a Seagate 750 GB HDD, which worked in conjunction with all the other drives without error.
5. I exchanged the Seagate HDD in Drive Bay 2 with the new WD Caviar Black 2 TB HDD.
6. On starting the system, it will report to initialize the new drive.
7. On trying to initialize the new drive with disk utility it reports the error [translated from German] "Erasing of the volume has failed. The device could not be opened."
8. I thought that the drive is faulty. Thus I created an RMA-Case at WD. They exchanged the drive without problems.
9. On getting the exchanged WD Caviar Black 2 TB drive I put it in Drive Bay 2 as before.
10. On trying to erase and format the exchange drive I got the same error message "Drive could not be opened."
10.1 On selecting the physical drive in the devices list, disk utility reports all information in the bottom area of its window as usual, e. g. hard disk description, connection bus, type and place, capacity, write status, SMART-status, partition scheme.
10.1 On leaving that drive selected in the devices list and clicking the info-button, disk utility will also report additional information as usual, e. g. Name, Type, partition scheme, media-identification, media name, media type, device tree, … , number of relocated sectors, etc.. All this information appears to be valid, as can be compared to the other devices information inside the other Drive Bays. Also the disk numbering scheme appears to be standard - 4 HDDs give the numbering disk0, disk1, disk2, disk3.
10.2 From that information I conclude that the SATA-bus and connectors electrically work properly, the drive has spun up and can be accessed by the system normally.
11. I powered down the computer, took out the HDDs from Drive Bays 3 and 4 and put the caddy with the new exchange drive in Drive Bay 4 [Maybe, I could have also just left it alone in Drive Bay 2, or 3].
12. After powering on the system, disk utility will quick format the exchange drive without any error message. Also, when erasing again by selecting the option to write zeros to the drive, disk utility will finish without error.
13. After disk utility finished formatting, I put back the original drives into Drive Bay 3 and 4 and put the now newly formatted drive back into Drive Bay 2.
14. After switching on the computer the system start and login proceeds without any error message. All drives appear as expected on the desktop.If anyone is reading this still looking for what caused the issue and how to fix it here is what I discovered.
The antivirus program our company uses, Bitdefender Antivirus Plus, was causing some of the PDF files not to open. After troubleshooting the different modules and settings the culprit was..
Scan SSL in Privacy Control Settings. Turning it OFF solved the problem and all the PDF files that previously would not open now open just fine. This issue has been sent to Bitdefender for them to review. If you use a different antivirus program and are having this issue try locating the Scan SSL setting and see if turning it off solves the problem. -
Need help to partition and format new hard drive for T400
The HDD failed in my T400. I bought a new 1TB HDD and fitted it. The diagnostic software in the BIOS did a read and controller test (Passed). When I put the Windows XP disk in the CD reader, the setup started - then stalled at the "Windows setup" page. I thought the hard drive had a write problem but apparently it must be partitioned and formatted first, before Widows setup can commence. The thing is that I can't get to the option where Windows formats the drive. In old computers, there was always a partitioning option in the BIOS setup but in my T400, there doesn't appear to be any such option. The computer has 4GB RAM, the actual model is 2767-RV8.
Does anyone have any suggestions how to get this up and running?
One other question is - (assuming I can get the thing working) - Is there somewhere I can load the operating system on part of the hard drive where it can act as a fall back in case the operating system gets corrupted? - i.e. something that can't get attacked by malicious software?
Thanks in advance for any assistance.
IanHi irivlin,
If you are trying to clean install XP, then you have to do following setting in BIOS first:
Press F1 to BIOS, Config -> Serial ATA (SATA) -> change to "Compatibility"
You can change XP partition only if you are doing clean installation, otherwise you have to use 3rd party to do it.
For backup part, there are lots of choices in the market. You might consider using XP own backup function. Lenovo got a program called Rescue and Recovery can also do backup as well.
How to use the Backup utility to back up files and folders in Windows XP Home Edition
http://support.microsoft.com/kb/320820/en-us
Rescue and Recovery® 4.23 by Lenovo
http://support.lenovo.com/en_US/product-and-parts/detail.page?&LegacyDocID=MIGR-76225
Fred
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Can't open disk utility at startup, can't format new hard drive
My hard drive on my 2011 macbook pro recently went out, so I purchased a new one. I plugged it in internally and brought up disk utility in internet recovery, but it didn't recognize the drive. So I tried using an external hard drive reader, but now recovery mode can't be accessed at all, whether I press option or command r after startup, it still gives me the same gray folder with a question mark icon. Is my recovery mode damaged, and is that possible to fix?
You can use an external USB disk/flash drive which has Recovery (or a full OS - requires a 16GB disk space on a USB flash or a JHFS+ partition with the OSX) on it. Boot from that recovery USB drive. if Internet Recovery worked once, the MBP is already capable of repeating it. It requires an Ethernet or WiFi connection. If neither is available, or is spotty, Internet Recovery will not work. Can you try Internet recovery via Ethernet cable, if all your previous attempts have been via WiFi?
If the drive is not recognized when plugged into the internal SATA bus, either a cable is not plugged in properly (the replacement drive never showed up successfully as per the OP even once, or the drive is DoA). It should be tested externally. Pulling the drive out and putting it back is fairly easy in the 2011/2012 MBPs. The cable could have been damaged during the replacement. The non-drive end of SATA/IR Sensor cable on the main logic board could be loose or damaged.
If you have a external cable SATA-to-USB or SATA-to-FW (very unlikely), format the new drive using a different PC/MAC to make sure it is not DoA. What brand/model is this new drive? Is it an SSD? It may require a FW upgrade.
If there is a second MAC available, a Target Disk Mode boot (press T while powering up the mac with the new drive) may allow the second working mac to format the new drive via Disk Utility. -
I have installed a new drive on my mac book and more ram but the snow leopard install asks which to install the system on but then does not show the drive.
do I have to partition it and name it first. -- if so just one partition?Do this:
Drive Preparation
1. Boot from your OS X Installer Disc. After the installer loads select your language and click on the Continue button. When the menu bar appears select Disk Utility from the Utilities menu.
2. After DU loads select your hard drive (this is the entry with the mfgr.'s ID and size) from the left side list. Note the SMART status of the drive in DU's status area. If it does not say "Verified" then the drive is failing or has failed and will need replacing. SMART info will not be reported on external drives. Otherwise, click on the Partition tab in the DU main window.
3. Under the Volume Scheme heading set the number of partitions from the drop down menu to one. Set the format type to Mac OS Extended (Journaled.) Click on the Options button, set the partition scheme to GUID then click on the OK button. Click on the Partition button and wait until the process has completed.
4. Select the volume you just created (this is the sub-entry under the drive entry) from the left side list. Click on the Erase tab in the DU main window.
5. Set the format type to Mac OS Extended (Journaled.) Click on the Options button, check the button for Zero Data and click on OK to return to the Erase window.
6. Click on the Erase button. The format process can take up to several hours depending upon the drive size.
When formatting has completed quit DU and return to the installer. Complete the OS X installation. -
I know how to physically install it i just need help with the software part. and my current hard drive is backed up on my time machine. The MBP is running mountain lion
How to replace or upgrade a drive in a laptop
Step One: Repair the Hard Drive and Permissions
Boot from your OS X Installer disc. After the installer loads select your language and click on the Continue button. When the menu bar appears select Disk Utility from the Installer menu (Utilities menu for Tiger, Leopard or Snow Leopard.) After DU loads select your hard drive entry (mfgr.'s ID and drive size) from the the left side list. In the DU status area you will see an entry for the S.M.A.R.T. status of the hard drive. If it does not say "Verified" then the hard drive is failing or failed. (SMART status is not reported on external Firewire or USB drives.) If the drive is "Verified" then select your OS X volume from the list on the left (sub-entry below the drive entry,) click on the First Aid tab, then click on the Repair Disk button. If DU reports any errors that have been fixed, then re-run Repair Disk until no errors are reported. If no errors are reported click on the Repair Permissions button. Wait until the operation completes, then quit DU and return to the installer.
If DU reports errors it cannot fix, then you will need Disk Warrior and/or Tech Tool Pro to repair the drive. If you don't have either of them or if neither of them can fix the drive, then you will need to reformat the drive and reinstall OS X.
Step Two: Remove the old drive and install the new drive. Place the old drive in an external USB enclosure. You can buy one at OWC who is also a good vendor for drives.
Step Three: Boot from the external drive. Restart the computer and after the chime press and hold down the OPTION key until the boot manager appears. Select the icon for the external drive then click on the downward pointing arrow button.
Step Four: New Hard Drive Preparation
1. Open Disk Utility in your Utilities folder.
2. After DU loads select your new hard drive (this is the entry with the
mfgr.'s ID and size) from the left side list. Note the SMART status of
the drive in DU's status area. If it does not say "Verified" then the drive
is failing or has failed and will need replacing. Otherwise, click on the
Partition tab in the DU main window.
3. Under the Volume Scheme heading set the number of partitions from
the drop down menu to one. Set the format type to Mac OS Extended
(Journaled.) Click on the Options button, set the partition scheme to
GUID then click on the OK button. Click on the Partition button and
wait until the process has completed.
4. Select the volume you just created (this is the sub-entry under the
drive entry) from the left side list. Click on the Erase tab in the DU main
window.
5. Set the format type to Mac OS Extended (Journaled.) Click on the
Options button, check the button for Zero Data and click on OK to
return to the Erase window.
6. Click on the Erase button. The format process can take up to several
hours depending upon the drive size.
Step Five: Clone the old drive to the new drive
1. Open Disk Utility from the Utilities folder.
2. Select the destination volume from the left side list.
3. Click on the Restore tab in the DU main window.
4. Check the box labeled Erase destination.
5. Select the destination volume from the left side list and drag it to the
Destination entry field.
6. Select the source volume from the left side list and drag it to the
Source entry field.
7. Double-check you got it right, then click on the Restore button.
Destination means the new internal drive. Source means the old external drive.
Step Six: Open the Startup Disk preferences and select the new internal volume. Click on the Restart button. You should boot from the new drive. Eject the external drive and disconnect it from the computer. -
Moving TM to new drive- will old drive format copy to new drive?
Hello,
I'm moving my TM backup to a new (larger) drive using Disc Utility. I've read the posts and know what to do, BUT... if I click "erase" and do a "restore" to move the data, will this make the new drive have the same format as the old drive? I tried a restore without clicking erase, and the operation failed.
Old drive: APM; Mac OS Extended (journaled)
New drive: GUID; Mac OS Extended (journaled)
I'd like to keep the new drive GUID if possible.Steven Shmerler wrote:
I Googled what GUID means, (globally unique identifier) and it seems to be used in the Windows world and is a 128-bit number associated with components, applications, files or used in databases even cookies, etc.
Could someone explain how this pertains to setting up a new drive for us Mac users using Intel Macs as referenced in this thread?
Does it pertain to the hard drive name we choose or a setting in Disk Utility that I overlooked?
You didn't look far enough. It's also, as posted, the name of the *Partition Map Scheme* used by OSX for Intel Mac internal HDs, and preferred for external HDs attached to an Intel Mac.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/GUIDPartitionTable
Most drives formatted by or for Windoze use the MBR scheme (Master Boot Record). That's why most problems with new drives as destination for Time Machine backups fail; they must use the GUID *Partition Map Scheme.* See the instructions in item #5 of the Frequently Asked Questions *User Tip* at the top of this forum. -
How do I migrate files from an external hard drive created in a Windows OS to a new MAC external drive? I want to read and write these files to the new drive.
LKrzesowski wrote:
How do I migrate files from an external hard drive created in a Windows OS to a new MAC external drive? I want to read and write these files to the new drive.
If all you're trying to do is move the files from the Windows external to the Mac external, you can simply connect them both to the Mac and drag the files from the Windows drive to the Mac drive. If you want to move the files back and forth between them, you'll need to establish the format of the Windows external. Macs can read and write to FAT32 and exFAT (which can handle files larger than 4GB) formatted drives but can only read NTFS formatted drives without additional software. With the Windows drive connected, you can check its format with Disk Utility. -
Format New Hard Drive Without CD
A little background on what I am doing before I get to the questions I need help with.
I am putting a 1.5TB Drive replacing my 320GB original hard drive in my MacBook Pro (Mid 2009). I am upgrading my storage space because I do not have enough for what I am doing with my computer. While I am in working on my computer I also am going to be replacing my CD drive with a data doublers and putting my 320GB hard drive in its place. I am planning on using the 1.5TB for Mavericks and the 320GB for a Windows 8. I will also be putting my SuperDrive that was previously removed and installing it into a OWC SuperSlim USB 2.0 Optical Drive enclosure so I still have the option to use a CD when I rarely need.
I don't think that I have any question about the install of the hardware because of all the many repair manuals out there. I more need help with the software end of things. I am looking to do a fresh install of just the operating software and then I'll bring all my files in and configure all my setting manually.
My questions are:
1.) When I install all the stuff as described above and reassemble my computer, If i just hit the power button will my computer start up off my original hard drive because it still had the operating software on it?
2.) If no to question 1, How do I format my new disk without having a CD to run disk utility? (My Optical drive enclosure hads not arrived yet and I also do not have any version of a operating software CD.)
Thanks for the help.To complete Network 23, and just in case, you may save all your datas, and create a MacOS "dvd" on a flashdrive, just to be able to boot from something if you need a complete and clean install.
Anyway, even if you can boot from you original disk after having installed the new one, I'd be surprised you may transfer everything on your new drive due to system running.
What I did when changing my drive (160GB => 500GB SSHD) to install Mavericks and gain some space was :
- create a backup
- create a system flashdrive
- install macos
- import my datas from original drive (in a usb case)
and that's it!
And I had no use of my backup (but I always prefer having double security than losing years of files...) -
I've got a MacBook Pro 1TB HD, the drive was damaged (probably dropped) after I formatted the new drive I was able to get the OSi onto the drive and it's now up and running..But prior to removing the old HD I was able to run CloneZilla to map the drive. The problem I'm having is getting the files and documents back on the new HD.
I created a folder on the desk top and moved all the files and docs onto it, ( files / docs was originally burnt on a DVD ). I'm not sure A) how to open the specific files B) which files to extract C) Is it as simple as drag and drop...
Hope you're able to understand my problem and offer some suggestions, in advance thank you for your time and effort...Hi, Steve -
Yes, the CD-ROM drive must be jumpered as Master in order for it to be bootable.
Your G4 (PCI) should have two built-in IDE buses - one is usually assigned to the CD-ROM and Zip drives, and the other is used for hard drives. If you have the hard drive connected to the same bus as the one the CD-ROM is on, try switching the hard drive to the other bus.
Set the hard drive's jumpers as Master.
Exception - if the hard drive is a Western Digital, it may have a third position, Single, which must be used when the drive is the only device on the bus.
Note - Cable Select jumper settings will not work on a G4 (PCI).
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Startup Manager, which is what booting with Option held down invokes, is not available on a G4 (PCI).
Article #106178 - Startup Manager: How to Select a Startup Volume
Firewire Target Disk Mode is limited on a G4 (PCI) - it can be the Host machine, but not the Target machine.
Article #58583 - Firewire Target Disk Mode
Relatedly, a G4 (PCI) can not boot to firewire drives, although it can use them for storage.
Article #58606 - FireWire Booting
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