Formatting new drive externally
I have a USB-to-SATA enclosure. So my intention is to connect my 2 new SSD and HDD drives for formatting before taking apart Mac Mini for istallatiin.
When I plug the drives in for the first time, I get a message saying the drives can't be recognized. And then selecting initialize opens up the Disk Utility. From there I can set up the drive properly.
My question is, should I be erasing the new drive first and then setting 1 partition and be done with it. Or just set 1 partition and that's it?
They are brand new out of the box drives. Just curious what is the proper way.
I got that part, no problem - thank you. But wondering if i should erase the drive first and then format it or format it and then erase it.
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I have 2 Crucial M4 SSD.
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JohnHi John,
Many thanks for the Solved Star.
Yes the WD VelociRaptor 300GB drives are 10k RPM. Although 300GB was the largest capacity available when I purchased my VelociRaptors, the latest range extends to 600GB:
http://hothardware.com/Reviews/WD-VelociRaptor-600GB-Fastest-HD-Ever/?page=1
Yes, I am extremely satisfied with my drives, and, as WD give a 5-year warranty, they must consider them to be "Enterprise Class". Otherwise they would just have the industry standard 3-year warranty.
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http://macperformanceguide.com/Storage-Drive-WesternDigital-RE4-2TB.html
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Even though a new drive might plug into a mac computer and allow most drive functions - copy - delete etc... - Isn't it true - that it basically comes as a pc formatted drive and should be reformatted for mac extended?
If you were to buy from MacSales (OWC)? Check them out, good FW and bare drives.
Also, you have to format it to be bootable.
Most drives that I buy are not formatted. If it is not, then the system will ask if you want to. And if it is it could be FAT32, and you should format it, and probably zero the drive as well.
If you have an MDD G4 there is room for four internal drives. If Firewire, you might want to look into adding PCI FW800. Rather than getting just 35-40MB/sec you should get 60-65MB/sec (Seagate 7200.10 ATA drives are great for backups etc). -
Finder issue - formatting new drive
I bought a single drive G5 running 10.4.10 (no disks included) off ebay. Before long, I began getting finder errors and mirror agent errors? I bought a new internal drive and Tiger 10.4, thinking I could pull everything off the original drive before it failed completely. During the setup, it asked about using the same keys and I agreed. I'm having the same issues now and can't get the computer to boot off the new drive. Did I make a fatal error allowing the old keys to be used on the new drive? I also let the computer copy off all files etc from the old to the new drive. I'm thinking erasing the new drive and starting over. Should I just re-load 10.4 on the original drive as well? Thanks for any tips.
You can copy them, burn them to CD, etc. I would run Disk Warrior (or TechTool Pro) to check files.
I keep any updaters, installers that were on disk images or downloaded always backed up; on DVD; etc. including any Apple software updates (I only use standalone updates from Apple, too).
I can understand wanting to insure it works. I don't understand someone selling a system - one with 10.4.10 no less - without disks, though. At least now you do and this way you know it is legit retail Apple DVD Installer.
As for failing drive, 70% or more can still have a good life - maybe only for backups - after using Disk Utility Erase Security Option: Zero-All. -
I've just installed a new 160GB drive into my PB G4. Does anyone know how long it takes to format? I've checked the format as zeros option and it's taking aaaaaaaages! Have I done the right thing checking the FORMAT WITH ZEROS option?
Any help or advice gladly appreciated.
Thanks
DanExpect it to take several hours for such a large drive unless you chose one of the multi-pass options which will take even longer than the single-pass.
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How do I migrate files from an external hard drive created in a Windows OS to a new MAC external drive? I want to read and write these files to the new drive.
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How do I migrate files from an external hard drive created in a Windows OS to a new MAC external drive? I want to read and write these files to the new drive.
If all you're trying to do is move the files from the Windows external to the Mac external, you can simply connect them both to the Mac and drag the files from the Windows drive to the Mac drive. If you want to move the files back and forth between them, you'll need to establish the format of the Windows external. Macs can read and write to FAT32 and exFAT (which can handle files larger than 4GB) formatted drives but can only read NTFS formatted drives without additional software. With the Windows drive connected, you can check its format with Disk Utility. -
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i have a new lacie external drive. I want to partition it into 2 parts, one to use in Macs and the other in PCs.
How do I do this in Disk Utility?
thanks!Click on the entire drive in the Disk Utility's sidebar, then on the Partition tab, and set it up. Format one partition as Mac OS Extended (Journaled) and the other as MS-DOS.
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Time Machine automatically formats new external drive CASE-SENSITIVE?
I noticed a strange thing when I set up Time Machine. I'd bought an external drive that was presumably pre-formatted as FAT32 or NTFS, so when I connected it and told Time Machine to use that drive, it told me it needed to format the drive, so I told it to go ahead.
It happened so fast that I wanted to make sure it had worked, so I checked the stats on the drive, and I noticed that it was formatted "Mac OS Extended (Journaled, Case-sensitive)". I thought it was a bit odd that it was formatted case-sensitive. When I google for this, the only thing I find is people saying that the external drive should NOT be case-sensitive.
So what's going on here? Should it be case-sensitive? Is this a glitch? Should I be concerned? Should those who don't use case-sensitive be concerned?
Thanks!Well, I've been reading through some other discussions in this forum, and some people have attributed problems with Time Machine to the disk being formatted case-sensitive. So the issue is still up in the air. So far, I've only done an initial backup, and that worked fine. I've also read about people having trouble with subsequent backups. Also, some people report that Apple's tech support instructions specify that you format the drive explicitly without case-sensitivity. There are inconsistencies here, and Apple is mum about the details. So this kinda leaves this up in the air.
BTW, you say the drive will only be used for TM. Is that necessarily the case? I mean, can't I use it to store other files? I got a 500GB disk because it was on sale (a My Book for $125), and I figure it'll take a while to fill up, so why not use the disk for other things? -
I havei my personal iMovies in QuickTime format on an external drive. I prefer not to have to import them into my iTunes library which is nearly 1GB already. Is there any way to play them from my MacBook Pro through Apple TV 2 without importing them into iTunes?
Just wanted to add a little to the excellent comments from those above... I have debated on adding the content to iTunes or just accessing the content through some folder structure.
What has worked best for me and my family:
use VideoDrive - http://www.aroona.net/VideoDrive/Home.html to import the videos/tvshows into iTunes and make them in the correct format for my iPad/iPhone/AppleTV devices in the house. This software is cheap and excellent and make the adding of content to iTunes (i everything) easy!
I store my videos on a usb 2tb drive and my tvshows on a different usb 2tb drive. And I swap a drive out every year or so and give old drive away to family/friends. That way my media drives are new(ish) and 1 drive is never older than 2 years.
for media that I don't want to add to iTunes I still use AirVideo as it is an excellent piece of software. I also use AirVideo to allow me to access content on my home network over the internet.
my "media server" is a simple 4 year old intel mac mini with 1 gig of ram best $700 I spent when I first flipped to all things mac. Family now have 2 mbp's, 2 iPads, 4 iphones and 1atv (2nd gen)
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Can't open disk utility at startup, can't format new hard drive
My hard drive on my 2011 macbook pro recently went out, so I purchased a new one. I plugged it in internally and brought up disk utility in internet recovery, but it didn't recognize the drive. So I tried using an external hard drive reader, but now recovery mode can't be accessed at all, whether I press option or command r after startup, it still gives me the same gray folder with a question mark icon. Is my recovery mode damaged, and is that possible to fix?
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I have installed a new drive on my mac book and more ram but the snow leopard install asks which to install the system on but then does not show the drive.
do I have to partition it and name it first. -- if so just one partition?Do this:
Drive Preparation
1. Boot from your OS X Installer Disc. After the installer loads select your language and click on the Continue button. When the menu bar appears select Disk Utility from the Utilities menu.
2. After DU loads select your hard drive (this is the entry with the mfgr.'s ID and size) from the left side list. Note the SMART status of the drive in DU's status area. If it does not say "Verified" then the drive is failing or has failed and will need replacing. SMART info will not be reported on external drives. Otherwise, click on the Partition tab in the DU main window.
3. Under the Volume Scheme heading set the number of partitions from the drop down menu to one. Set the format type to Mac OS Extended (Journaled.) Click on the Options button, set the partition scheme to GUID then click on the OK button. Click on the Partition button and wait until the process has completed.
4. Select the volume you just created (this is the sub-entry under the drive entry) from the left side list. Click on the Erase tab in the DU main window.
5. Set the format type to Mac OS Extended (Journaled.) Click on the Options button, check the button for Zero Data and click on OK to return to the Erase window.
6. Click on the Erase button. The format process can take up to several hours depending upon the drive size.
When formatting has completed quit DU and return to the installer. Complete the OS X installation. -
How do I move music from an old external hard drive to a new external hard drive and have itunes find it?
If you have a time machine back up of your current drive you can do this
Shut down your computer, install the new drive. While the computer is off plug in the external hard drive that you have your time machine back up on. Hold Option key while the computer turnes on, let go of the option key once you get a grey screen. Shortly after you'll see a list of bootable drives, select the one that has your time machine back up on it and boot into that drive.
From there go into disk utility, format your new drive too, osx extended journaled ( I think, double check that, its been awhile since ive had to do this), hit format
Exit disk utility and then you can use time machine to copy all your exisit data to the new hhd and then your pretty much done.
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I know how to physically install it i just need help with the software part. and my current hard drive is backed up on my time machine. The MBP is running mountain lion
How to replace or upgrade a drive in a laptop
Step One: Repair the Hard Drive and Permissions
Boot from your OS X Installer disc. After the installer loads select your language and click on the Continue button. When the menu bar appears select Disk Utility from the Installer menu (Utilities menu for Tiger, Leopard or Snow Leopard.) After DU loads select your hard drive entry (mfgr.'s ID and drive size) from the the left side list. In the DU status area you will see an entry for the S.M.A.R.T. status of the hard drive. If it does not say "Verified" then the hard drive is failing or failed. (SMART status is not reported on external Firewire or USB drives.) If the drive is "Verified" then select your OS X volume from the list on the left (sub-entry below the drive entry,) click on the First Aid tab, then click on the Repair Disk button. If DU reports any errors that have been fixed, then re-run Repair Disk until no errors are reported. If no errors are reported click on the Repair Permissions button. Wait until the operation completes, then quit DU and return to the installer.
If DU reports errors it cannot fix, then you will need Disk Warrior and/or Tech Tool Pro to repair the drive. If you don't have either of them or if neither of them can fix the drive, then you will need to reformat the drive and reinstall OS X.
Step Two: Remove the old drive and install the new drive. Place the old drive in an external USB enclosure. You can buy one at OWC who is also a good vendor for drives.
Step Three: Boot from the external drive. Restart the computer and after the chime press and hold down the OPTION key until the boot manager appears. Select the icon for the external drive then click on the downward pointing arrow button.
Step Four: New Hard Drive Preparation
1. Open Disk Utility in your Utilities folder.
2. After DU loads select your new hard drive (this is the entry with the
mfgr.'s ID and size) from the left side list. Note the SMART status of
the drive in DU's status area. If it does not say "Verified" then the drive
is failing or has failed and will need replacing. Otherwise, click on the
Partition tab in the DU main window.
3. Under the Volume Scheme heading set the number of partitions from
the drop down menu to one. Set the format type to Mac OS Extended
(Journaled.) Click on the Options button, set the partition scheme to
GUID then click on the OK button. Click on the Partition button and
wait until the process has completed.
4. Select the volume you just created (this is the sub-entry under the
drive entry) from the left side list. Click on the Erase tab in the DU main
window.
5. Set the format type to Mac OS Extended (Journaled.) Click on the
Options button, check the button for Zero Data and click on OK to
return to the Erase window.
6. Click on the Erase button. The format process can take up to several
hours depending upon the drive size.
Step Five: Clone the old drive to the new drive
1. Open Disk Utility from the Utilities folder.
2. Select the destination volume from the left side list.
3. Click on the Restore tab in the DU main window.
4. Check the box labeled Erase destination.
5. Select the destination volume from the left side list and drag it to the
Destination entry field.
6. Select the source volume from the left side list and drag it to the
Source entry field.
7. Double-check you got it right, then click on the Restore button.
Destination means the new internal drive. Source means the old external drive.
Step Six: Open the Startup Disk preferences and select the new internal volume. Click on the Restart button. You should boot from the new drive. Eject the external drive and disconnect it from the computer. -
Moving TM to new drive- will old drive format copy to new drive?
Hello,
I'm moving my TM backup to a new (larger) drive using Disc Utility. I've read the posts and know what to do, BUT... if I click "erase" and do a "restore" to move the data, will this make the new drive have the same format as the old drive? I tried a restore without clicking erase, and the operation failed.
Old drive: APM; Mac OS Extended (journaled)
New drive: GUID; Mac OS Extended (journaled)
I'd like to keep the new drive GUID if possible.Steven Shmerler wrote:
I Googled what GUID means, (globally unique identifier) and it seems to be used in the Windows world and is a 128-bit number associated with components, applications, files or used in databases even cookies, etc.
Could someone explain how this pertains to setting up a new drive for us Mac users using Intel Macs as referenced in this thread?
Does it pertain to the hard drive name we choose or a setting in Disk Utility that I overlooked?
You didn't look far enough. It's also, as posted, the name of the *Partition Map Scheme* used by OSX for Intel Mac internal HDs, and preferred for external HDs attached to an Intel Mac.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/GUIDPartitionTable
Most drives formatted by or for Windoze use the MBR scheme (Master Boot Record). That's why most problems with new drives as destination for Time Machine backups fail; they must use the GUID *Partition Map Scheme.* See the instructions in item #5 of the Frequently Asked Questions *User Tip* at the top of this forum.
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