Frame Swap in Netweaver

Hi All,
I have question related to swpping monitored using ST02.
I read about "Frame Swaps" and found note 121808 (Swaps in program buffer although space is free) pertaining to the same.
The note speaks of parameter "abap/buffersize_part1" which leads to the term "Frames swapped".
It also says that the parameter does not have any effect as of Release 4.5A.
I would like to know the relevance of the "Frames Swapped" in performance tunning of Netweaver 700 systems.
As also how is the loading of large programs taken care or implemented in 700 systems?
Regards,
Navin Shettigar

Thanks manoj for the answer.
I do agree with your analysis of note but my query is not specific to the note.
The "Framed Swaps" entry still comes in 700 system while doing inidividual buffer analysis in ST02 along with "Object Swaps".
I am presuming that there has to be some use in 700 system else SAP wouldnt have kept the record for "Framed Swaps".
Regards,
Navin Shettigar

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rsdb/ntab/ftabsize                          96305
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rtbb/buffer_length                          90000
zcsa/table_buffer_area                      30000000
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rdisp/wp_no_vb2                             1
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Date + Time of Snapshot: 21.02.2012    09:37:21    Startup:     19.02.2012 22:05:14
Buffer             HitRatio % Alloc. KB Freesp. KB % Free Sp. Dir. Size FreeDirEnt % Free Dir    Swaps DB Accs
Nametab (NTAB)                                                                                0
Table definition     86.81     21,809                          64,167                        127,586 192,179
Field definition     77.90    101,318     45,098      46.83    64,167     50,613      78.88 109,591 123,279
Short NTAB           98.44     11,636      8,958      93.01    16,041     13,391      83.48        0    2,650
Initial records       0.99     21,266     14,669      76.16    16,041      2,860      17.83   53,460   66,641
                                                                                0
program                96.73 1,500,000    795,367      57.04   375,000    305,187      81.38        0 209,493
CUA                    99.30      8,000      3,129      47.71     4,000      3,754      93.85        0      252
Screen                 99.59     14,297      9,503      67.43     2,000      1,731      86.55        0      275
Calendar              100.00        488        366      76.57       200         48      24.00        0      152
OTR                   100.00      4,096      3,375     100.00     2,000      2,000     100.00        0
                                                                                0
Tables                                                                                0
Generic Key          99.73     29,297      2,399       8.65     5,000      1,611      32.22       39   14,181
Single record        88.77     90,000     51,599      57.45       500        403      80.60        0   72,187
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Export/import          92.43     40,000     34,517      88.28     2,500        975      39.00        0
Exp./ Imp. SHM         53.57      4,096      3,203      94.90     2,000      1,999      99.95        0
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Roll area            0.12        325      3,488     262,144          0   IDs           98.77
Page area            0.25        666     94,624     131,072    131,072   Statement     93.00
Extended memory      4.03    675,840 6,881,280 16,773,120          0                  0.00
Heap memory                        0 1,084,762           0          0                  0.00
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Select single     99.84 1,755,375    267,018      9,898          0   1,488,357
Select             1.53 1,471,444          0    561,166          0   5,708,457
Insert             0.00    225,271      5,926     58,267          0   4,146,957
Update             0.00        497         25        572          0         507
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Efficiency        HITRATIO          %        87
                   HITS                1,264,801
                   REQUESTS            1,456,982
                   DB access quality %        87
                   DB access             192,179
                   DB access saved     1,264,787
                   Reorgs                      0
Size              Allocated        KB    21,809
                   Available        KB    18,297
                   Used             KB    18,297
                   Free             KB         0
                   Free             KB         0
Directory entries Available              64,167
                   Used                   64,167
                   Free                        0
Swaps             Objects swapped       127,586
                   Frames swapped              0
Resets            Total                       0
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Efficiency        HITRATIO          %          97
                   HITS                119.405.209
                   REQUESTS            123.408.979
                   DB access quality %          97
                   DB access             4.006.836
                   DB access saved     119.399.849
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Size              Allocated        KB       9.800
                   Available        KB       8.219
                   Used             KB       8.219
                   Free             KB           0
                   Free             KB           0
Directory entries Available                28.826
                   Used                     28.826
                   Free                          0
Swaps             Objects swapped       1.032.168
                   Frames swapped                0
Resets            Total                         0
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rsdb/ntab/entrycount 28826      Max. number of table definitions buffered
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Efficiency        HITRATIO          %        100
                  HITS                80.761.920
                  REQUESTS            81.137.309
                  DB access quality %        100
                  DB access              363.063
                  DB access saved     80.761.378
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Size              Allocated        KB     45.515
                  Available        KB     43.263
                  Used             KB     40.109
                  Free             KB      3.154
Directory entries Available               28.826
                  Used                     7.176
                  Free                    21.650
Swaps             Objects swapped        355.332
                  Frames swapped               0
Resets            Total                        0
rsdb/ntab/ftabsize   43263 kB   Size of field description buffer
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Efficiency        HITRATIO          %         100
                   HITS                385.544.192
                   REQUESTS            385.922.653
                   DB access quality %         100
                   DB access               653.940
                   DB access saved     565.109.488
                   Reorgs                        0
Size              Allocated        KB     400.000
                   Available        KB     370.780
                   Used             KB     369.428
                   Free             KB       1.352
                   Gaps             KB       1.303
Directory entries Available               100.000
                   Used                     10.385
                   Free                     89.615
Swaps             Objects swapped         206.098
                   Frames swapped                0
Resets            Total                         0
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abap/buffersize 400000 kB   Size of program buffer
abap/pxa        shared      Program buffer mode
Export/Import
Efficiency        HITRATIO          %         81
                   HITS                13.737.920
                   REQUESTS            16.906.841
                   DB access quality %        100
                   DB access                    0
                   DB access saved              0
                   Reorgs                       0
Size              Allocated        KB      4.096
                   Available        KB      3.375
                   Used             KB      2.757
                   Free             KB        253
Directory entries Available                2.000
                   Used                     1.031
                   Free                       969
Swaps             Objects swapped         32.476
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rsdb/obj/max_objects       2000        Max. number of objects in the buffer
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Line: 2464
Detail: Connection to partner timed out
We have a stateless BSP application, and the page in question is set as "stateful from now until page change", and the page type is flow logic. We have this application running in production for a year now, and always receive complaints from a specific user that she can't load up her page (a 500 connection timeout(-5) error got displayed instead). Our basis folks have set up the TIMEOUT parameter as 900 secs, and the icm/keepalive parameter as 60 secs. We attempted to test with the same amount of data in both our test and production environments, and with the same system parameter settings (TIMEOUT and icm/keepalive parameters), however, we noticed we did not get timed out in our test environment, but continued to get a connection timeout error in the production environment (only when we retrieved data from this user). We tried to troubleshoot by following the steps listed below.
1) We tried to narrow down to see whether it was the data extraction part within the program that's prolonging the process. We executed the Function module in the backend (R/3) that will perform the data extraction of the program, and on average, it took about 100,000,000 microseconds to finish running in both environment. And most of the time, the Function Module in our production environment finished faster than our Test environment.
2) Next step, we executed the BSP application via our portal environments(test and production), and we did not get a timeout error in the test envionrment; however, in our production environment, within 2 minutes or so, we received a connection timeout error.
The differences between the 2 systems is minimal, and in fact, our production server is much powerful (hardware wise) than our test system. Other than some "unknown to us" system settings (from looking at the error, it's ICM related?), I cannot think of what else will cause the connection timeout that we are currently facing. I spoke with our basis folks, and they have no idea either. Can this be user specific (I doubt it)?
Any help or input from anyone is greatly appreciated.
Thanks in advance for all your help!!!
Best regards,
Cyanna

Thanks Raja and Amandeep for your response. All the system profile are consistent across the production server. I have a question for Amandeep. What's exactly a frame swap application? Is it portal related? We are still trying to troubleshoot the issue, and we are still trying to figure out whether there is a system parameter difference between the 2 systems. We even checked the BSP performance wiki.....
Please, any help you can offer is greatly appreciated!
Thanks much and regards,
Cyanna

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Hi
When I log and transfer 24p AVCHD footage from my panasonic GH2 in FCE I'm getting occasional swapped, backwards or reversed frames - it appears as a movement glitch in the final video file. What is happening is that every few minutes, I see this pattern: two frames will be swapped (they are in reverse order) then one frame where it should be, then another two that are swapped (or in reverse order).
I can't figure out a pattern as to when it happens, but it happens in the same place every time i transcode, even if i set different in/out points. Shows up when the resulting AIC files are played in quicktime player also.
However this glitch does NOT show up when i play the original AVCHD file from the camera in the log and transfer window or in VLC - so its not the camera's fault - it's FCE's transcoder.
You can fix it by just re-arranging the frames when editing, but its really annoying to try to find them all when you're editing a long project like a concert.
Anyone else have this problem?
Or can anyone recommend a good and inexpensive 3rd party app to transcode my footage assuming I can't fix this in FCE?
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Actually it does support 24fps media, it just doesn't let you edit on a 24fps timeline, which makes working with 24fps media annoying - you end up with duplicated frames and therefore somewhat jerky motion.
But, what actually is coming out of the camera is this particular case is a 29.97fps video "labeled" as 24fps @ 80% speed - (I dunno - ask panasonic why they did that…). When you edit the headers of the resulting quicktime movie, you can get a 29.97fps 1080p video that works great in FCE's 1080p30 timeline (albeit without sound because the GH2 does not record it in this mode).
I could see that maybe FCE has a problem logging and capturing 24p footage since it does not support 24p timelines, but more likely seems to me like maybe an incompatibility with the AVCHD format in which the GH2 is shooting.
I'm trying out clipwrap, but unfortunately the demo wont go far enough into my clip to test if it fixes this glitch! (1 min time limit) Neither will the VoltaicHD demo.

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