Freight charges on return delivery

Hi,
How freight chargers are reversed while doing 161 mvt type.
Is there any separate mvt required to return freight charge.
How do we handle this plz clarify me....
BR
Vel
Note :Please search forum,subject is widely discussed in various threads in this forum
Edited by: Jeyakanthan A on Jun 7, 2011 8:20 AM

Ajay and Shailendar,
thanks for your replies. Sorry for the delay in getting back on this issue. Our users want to see the freight charges on a separate cost component line in the CK11N. So I created a cost component for Freight. However, I do not know how to get the value into this Freight cost component line. When I tried to add the freight charges through CK74N, they are going into overhead as I was using overhead cost element in CK74N. Users do not want this as the overhead costs are inflated because of the freight addition to the overhead. Any ideas how to get the freight charges only into the cost component?
Thanks in advance.

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