Full Freight Cost payment to Vendor irrespective of GRN Quantity.

Hi MM Gurus,
I have a requirement where our client have to pay to Vendor for Frieght Value in the first bill (Vendor send many bills based on the GRN quantities) only irrespective of the GRN Quantity.
E.g I have a PO of 100 Qty and the Frieght condition value as 100 INR. Now, We have done partial GRN of 10 Qty only so the INR 10 is inventorized on the material for freight cost during GRN. But we have to pay 100 INR (full amount of Freight Condition) to vendor during MIRO for partial bill of 10 quantities of which we have done GRN.
I have tried doing in MIRO by entering full value 100 INR and 100 Quantity in MIRO for freight Condition but due to tolerance defined in system the invoice goes for block for payment. Actually, the concerned user do not have authorization for the release of blocked invoices (MRBR) and we cannot change the tolerance also because it comes under Audit.
I was thinking whether we do have something in Condition type settings where we can pay full frient cost to vendor in the first bill only irrespective of the Partial GRN?
Please suggest me on this.
Regards,
Neeraj

Hi,
Create a freight vendor separately and assign that condition for th freight vendor in conditions of PO and for that freight vendor do not check the G/Rbased.
In this case after creation of PO you need to do MIRO woth planned delivery cost selection in that screen and then you get a pop up where in you can select your freight venodr and make invoice verifiation for that freignt vendor and later you can go with GR for as much ever quantity as you are in need.In this way it wont effect the freight price with respect to your inward quantity.
Thanks.

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Thanks in advance.
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