Funds management commitment carry forward
hi,
we have got funds management activated in our system. we started a new fiscal year and i ran fmj2 to carryforward all FM commitments. now when i try to changed purchase orders created in the previous fiscal year i get an error "Document item 10124941/00001 has not yet been carried forward to the current year". please advise.
Also you have carry out year end closing for FI & MM. then you have to carry forward the balance to next year. for goto periodic processing closing then carry forward here you will find 3 steps 1. determine 2. calculate 3. execute.
There may slight variation but this activity has to be done.
Regards,
Manish Jain'
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Funds Management-Budget Carry Forward
Hi,
I was doing testing for open item commitment carry forward along with Budget (FMJ2). In the selection screen, there is a drop down for Availability Control, When I Select Check and execute..
1) I get errror message.. Budget "Annual Budget Exceeded by ......" . This message shld not appear as budget from CY is to be transffered to New Year.
2) Then I executed FMJ2 again but this time I in Availability Control.. I selected Update without check.. this time there was no error and I could post it. But here the problem is when i see the report for Year 2009 (new year)FMRP_RW_BUDCON - Budget Control System (BCS) -> Budget -> Overview of Budget Consumption , Consumable bugdet is 0, Current bugdet has value carried forward, available budget is in negative.
I have release strategy for budget, but not for budget type carried forward.
What could be the problem...How shld I solve this???
Thanks & Regards,
JyotiHi ELi,
I have checked the table BUVALTPRO, automatic release is checked for carry forward process.
Why I m not using release for this:
1) IN FMJ2, I would like to choose Availaibility control as check, if I do this i'll get error message as release is done after I do carry forward.
2) Budget is already released for open items in old year, so it would not make sense to release it again.
3) Now, I have activated consistency check for Negative budget, so when I execute FMJ2, it does not allow me post even if I choose update wihout check and I get the message : "The current budget for budget type CFWD is negative"
Does it has anything to do with
IMG/PSM/FM Govt/Closing Operations/Closing operation for BCS/Set Up Automatic Budget Postings After Fiscal Year Change -
what's d use of this?
Thanks & Regards,
Jyoti -
Reassignment of Fund Center during Carry forward (FMJ2)
Hi,
I want to reassign Fund Center during carry forward.
I cannot default the Fund Center in derivation as it will vary depending upon purchase order numbers.
Like :
PO Sender Fund Center target Fund Center
456 Upload LOB 1
777 Upload LOB 2
I want to reassign Fund Center online during execution of transaction FMJ2.
In configuration, I have done below setting:-
under Define Basic Settings for Commitment Carryforward - I have selected "Selection" checkbox.
and when I execute FMJ2, there is a column for Account Assignment Selection, but when I click it nothing happens.
I tried defining derivation strategy for reassignmet but it does not work, might be I am doing it wrong.
Can anyone please help me in this.
Regards,
Jyoti
Edited by: Jyoti Gupta on Mar 31, 2009 9:38 AMHi Mar,
Thanks for your help.
This issue is resolved by changing derivation strategy for Reassignment.
I have done it like this:-
Source fields:
a) Number
b) Source_Fund
Target Fields
a) Target_Fund (Overwrite with new value)
b) Percentage (Overwrite with new value)
c) Last_Target (Overwrite with new value)
Then maintained rule values like
Seq No. Sender Fund Center = Receiver FC Percentage
1 UPLOAD LOB2 10.00
4 UPLOAD LOB1 10.00
3 UPLOAD ANF 10.00
Now when I execute FMJ2, I can choose Receiver Fund Center
Thanks once again for your help.
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Commitment Carry Forward in the year end closing!
Hi All,
We have a lot of open PRs and POs against Internal orders and WBS at the year end and we also have the budget control activated. Now we are going to do the year end closing. My question is:
1. Who should do the commitment carry forward, supply chain or FI team?
2. If supply chain will do the PR or PO carry forward, will FI team also need to run the commitment carry forward (KOCF or CJCF) from FI side at the same time or not necessary?
Thanks,
TingHi Abhinay,
Thanks for the answer.
When you say they have to perform year end activities like checking PO and PR, what actually they are doing? Do they just need to check whether those PO or PR are required (if not, close them) or they need to do something more? . As far as I know, no steps like checking PO and PR are required here. So I am wondering whether we have missed anything or not. Can you give me some details about that step?
Also, if we are using only Total value for the budget, not annual value, I don't need to do the budget carry forward closing step. In this case, do I need to do the commitment carryforward step?
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KOCO -( Budget Carryforward) & KOCF ( commitment carry forward ) report
Hi
Can some one explain me how to be sure that some one has successfully run two t-codes KOCO -( Budget Carryforward) & KOCF ( commitment carry forward ). I want to make sure that Budget and Commitment carry forward has taken place.Is there any report which I can run.This situation is due to a person left the organization suddenly and I am not sure he has run it.In any case if I run it again what will happen ?
Thanks in advance
SatyaHi Abhinay,
Thanks for the answer.
When you say they have to perform year end activities like checking PO and PR, what actually they are doing? Do they just need to check whether those PO or PR are required (if not, close them) or they need to do something more? . As far as I know, no steps like checking PO and PR are required here. So I am wondering whether we have missed anything or not. Can you give me some details about that step?
Also, if we are using only Total value for the budget, not annual value, I don't need to do the budget carry forward closing step. In this case, do I need to do the commitment carryforward step?
Thanks,
Ting -
Using Schedule Manager (FMDM) to manage budget carry forward for commitment
Greetings,
Using ECC 5.0, we have a business requirement to carry forward (FMJ2) some open commitments with budget and some open commitments without budget to the new fiscal year. We have attempted to use Schedule Manager (FMDM) to change the settings on open commitments (purchase requisitions and purchase orders). While the Schedule Manager reflects the change in the budget carry forward status, the application of the FMJ2 does not work as expected. Alternatively, we have changed the configuration settings and then transported changes to production environment.
I would appreciate guidance on how to troubleshoot operation of Schedule Manager so budget carrry forward status can be managed with this tool.
Regards,
Rod AndersonThanks, Ming.
My security team has confirmed that the FMDM is currently set up as a display only transaction. I now know where to take the issue from here.
Regards
Rod Anderson -
Funds Management - Commitment items for all GLs
Hello -
When we activate Funds Management, System expects a commitment item for every GL, including Bank accounts and Inventory accounts. I want system to expect commitment item only for expense accounts. How can I Do it. As such, we donu2019t have a budget for bank accounts.
Thanks in advance.
Chris
Edited by: Chris Farr on Nov 24, 2008 12:14 PMJust read Eli's msg clearly, its mentioned that GLs have to be assigned to Commitment with right category and Fin transacton. Just explored the IDES FM areas 1000,3000 and 4000 and understood the following but with couple of questions ( mentioned below)
Expenditure 30/3
Asset exp 30/3
GR/IR - Clearing 40/3
Misc clearing 40/3
Liquid funds / Bank a/cs 90/1
All other bank chk pable/ Recbles 80/3
Trade recble 60/2 it make sense, but in FM area 3000, Receivables defined as 30/3 ?
Trade payable 60/3 it make sense, but in FM area 3000, Receivables defined as 30/3 ?
Tax payable 30/2 Why category '2' here?
Input tax 30/2 Why category '2' here?
WOULD APPRECIATE IF SOMEBODY CAN CLARIFY MY QUESTIONS ABOVE.
Hope this info is useful and not mis guiding
Thanks
Chris -
Hi,
In funds management (BCS) in case of inventory I have activated AVC from PR level. After making PO commitment for PR get reversed and new commitment for PO get generated. but after issuing material to department, commitment for GR get reversed and new commitment for PL GL get generated. this leads to total reversal of commitment at balance sheet GL. due to this budget get opened again for new PR. to avoide this I required to block commitment through tcode FMX1. but this to be done manually every time after issuing material. I want to make it automated means commitment should be blocked automatically after issuing material. please suggest.Hi,
I made PR for Rs. 100. In this case commitment is booked for GL say 132000 (inventory).
After that I made PO for same amount. So PR commitment get reversed and PO commitment booked for Rs. 100.
In case of GR PO commitment get reversed and commitment booked for GR entry for Rs. 100.
Then I issue that material to GL 412000, CC 190150 then GR comitment for GL 132000 get reversed and new commitment for GL 412000 get booked.
It means PR budget is again open for posting.
+100 PR
-100 PR (after making PO)
+100 PO
-100 PO (after making GR)
+100 GR
-100 GR (after issue of material)
to avoid this opening of PR budget again I need to block budget by passing manual entry through tcode FMX1to GL 132000.
I want to make this FMX1 entry automated. can we do this. please suggest. -
Investment management - budget carry forward
HI Experts,
When ever I am running transaction code CJCO in update run, I get a message saying " Update run possible only in closed fiscal year". If I tick the green check, it runs for a while. I am not sure if it actually carrying forward the budget or not.
I have gone through the program description which says " You can use this program to carry unused budget from a closed fiscal year forward to the next year"
I have closed year 2008 using IM27_close. I am not sure if this is the correct or not. Projects were created in fiscal year 2008. Fiscal year 2008 for in this case is from June 07 to May08.
Can you please guide me as to what are the steps to be performed for year end closing of IM and at the same time is it ok to ignore the message and continue to process it.
Please help me in this regard.
Thanks in advance.
regards
Pawanthis depends mainly on your cut over strategy -
are you converting existing projects?
Is the historical postings also being converted - most likely not
if not then what happens to costing of projects - ie are you converting partial complete projects, if so without historical data how you will analyse the project costs etc for whole projects
what if you have projects over say 5 yrs - do you want to roll over budgets from say 2003?
my advise would be to allow all the financial trial balance conversion take care of the project P&L
you should only convert active projects with structures to be used form 1/1/09
create z tables for any data required for historical puposes for the drill down from standard reports or use statistical postings to build the historical data only for the converted projects -
hi gurus
we just entered a new fiscal year and when we try to change orders created in the old fiscal year we get an error saying "Old FM line items 0010124941/00001 could not be found'. please advice.Use transaction code KOCF and do the commitment items carryforward.
Its not a MM transaction.
Ask the Controlling team to get it done.
Regards
Rammohan. -
How to do Commitment item carryforward (Fund Management) ?
Dear experts,
Please guide me how to do commitment item carryforward.
I've read thought SAP help, it said I need to do commitment item carryforward.
But I have no idea, what's the transaction code, what parameter to fill in..
Kindly guide me or send me related document...please....
[FM Newbie]T code : CJCF - Carry Forward Commitment
Parameters: - Carrying Forward Commitments
To carry forward a commitment to the first period of the following fiscal year, proceed as follows:
Choose Accounting ® Controlling ® Cost Center Accounting ® Year-end closing ® Commitment carried forward.
Enter the relevant cost center(s).
Select or deselect the following indicators:
Test run
If you select Test run, the system carried forward the commitment, but does not update the results.
Detail lists
If you activate Detail list, the system displays the results of the commitment carried forward. The results list shows which values were carried forward.
You should activate the Detail list together with the Test run. This ensures that you can check the results of the test run.
Reversal
The Reversal indicator controls whether data that has already been carried forward should be reversed again or not.
If you have large amounts of data to process, it is advisable to execute the commitment carry-forward using background processing. This means you can process data at times of minimal system usage.
Choose Program Execute in background.
SAP help : - Year-End Closing Reports
The reports on year-end closing give you an overview of the closing operations (commitment carryforward and budget carryforward) with fiscal year change.
The reports display totals records. A comparison of the line items transferred to the new fiscal year with the totals is possible using the program (RFFMCFRC) Year-End Closing Data: Totals Records on Line Items
Features
· Commitments and budget carried forward (RFFMEP1GX)
This report displays commitment, budget for commitment and budget for a fiscal year that were carried forward to the following year.
· Commitment carried forward in a test run (RFFMEP2GX)
This report displays commitment belonging to a fiscal year that was carried forward to the following year in a a test run using the Commitment Carryforward
· Preselected budget (RFFMEP3GX)
This report displays budget for a fiscal year that was determined for the carryforward into the following year with the program RFFMCF25. -
Actuals after Commitment and Budget Carry forwards
We recently did a Commitment Carry Forward using CJCF from year 2009 to 2010 (but did not do budget carry forward) and this added the Assigned amount by USD 100 in 2010 for the WBS Element.
I have some doubts and my questions are :
1) when I do the Goods Receipt in 2010 for the commitments carried forward, will the system check for 2009 budget or 2010 budget ?
2) if it checks for 2009 budget and adds to the actuals in 2010, will it not be an incorrect business process ?
3) what would have happened if the budget had also been carried forward from 2009 to 2010.
Thanks for any response.In budget tolerence limit setting if you have maintained budget check ++ means for all trancastion the system will check for budget against posting values whenever you execute any transaction system will compare the values against available budget of posting year.
in you case at the time po coiitments are created in 2009 and checked for available budget for 2009 now you are posting GR / service entry in year 2010 at this time your PO commitments are going to transfer to actuals but as posting is happening in 2010 system will check for the budget availability for year 2010.
so for any annual budget project at the end of year you have to carryforward commitments and buget to next year.
regards, -
Funds Management and Fiscal Year Variant Change
Hello !
We are configuring a new fiscal year variant.
Currently, the system is on a CALENDAR YEAR FY variant and we are doing the following:
1. creating a shortened FY of Jan 2009 - Mar 2009
2. new fiscal year from April 2009 - Mar 2010
We are trying to change the FY variant for Funds Management via OF15 but receive the error FI674.
FI674:
You must not change the fiscal year variant in Cash Budget Management or Funds Management for FM area FM01 if actual data already exists for FM area FM01, or if one or more of the company codes assigned to FM area FM01 is active.
We have found oss note 719597 which details how to change the FY variant for Cash Budget Mgmt, but it does not apply to Funds management.
I could find no other supporting documentation.
Can anyone guide us as to how to deal with this issue?
Thank=you !Hello Patti,
The point is that it is not possible to change fiscal year variant if actual values exists.
You are trying to do a change in January. You probably have some postings in 2009 already.
In the area of PSM-FM there is no note like 719597 of TR-CB.
Only if no actual values exist, this customizing change would be possible and reasonable.
If you are doing this setting in your customizing client, you can delete the postings (please DO NOT do it if you are in production) that exist in 2009 and try again.
SAP do not recommend to change a Fiscal Year Variant that has already been assigned to a company code and has already some postings. This may create database inconsistencies.
You can create another Fiscal Year Variant with the information that you want to be customize, and this variant you will be able to assign to a company code. Before you assign this new variant to a company
code please be sure that none of the information that you already posted in this company code will be affected, this information you may review it with your consultant on-site.
Also please review/apply note 173636, 202687, 10945, 193713, 123026, 210861 which may happen in your system.
The fiscal period is related to the posting date via the fiscal year variant. E.g.: I you do a posting on 5.5.2009 it will be posted e.g. in period 5 for fiscal year variant 'A'. This period is not only used in the document header table (BKPF,VBRK,MKPF ...) but also in several balance table (GLT0, KNC1 ...) not only in FI but also in SD, MM, CO .... If in the new fiscal year variant 'B' this posting date is related to another period e.g. 7 the relation between documents and Periods and balances will be destroyed.
The problem will be enhanced if the posting-date would be related to diffrent fiscal years.
In addition several reports in AP/AR and GL reread period-depend data by selecting the posting-date regardless of the period in the document because it's not normal practise to change the fiscal year variant of a company code.
Some of the involved issues are:
- FM actuals and commitments may need to be reconstructed if their period- (or even fiscal year-) assignments is changed.
- FM actuals/commitments can not be reconstructed if fiscal year change activities have already been performed (commitment carry forward, FMJ1, FMJ2).
- Budgeting data and assigned values may principally be concerned as well, especially if you are working with period values in budgeting.
The change of fiscal year variant has several implications and should be analyzed very carefully.
Please check note below for more information:
Note 672255 Shortened fiscal year / changing fiscal periods
I hope it helps you and good luck
Best Regards,
Vanessa. -
Dear Experts,
I have doubt regarding the budget carry forward.
I'm using PS with Investment Management.
Now I need to carry forward the budget from 2008-09 to 2009-10 fiscal year.
I have the following transactions:
IM:
IM27 - Open New Approval Year
IM27_CLOSE - Closing Old Approval Year
IMCAOV - Budget Carry forward
PS:
CJCO - Budget Carry forward
CJCF - Commitment Carry forward
Can any one please tell me what is the hierarchy for the above transactions?
Do I need to carry CJCO, CJCF and then IM27, IM_CLOSE & IMCAOV? or first I need to carry out for IM and then do for PS?
What is the flow? Please advise me on the above.
Thanks in Advice,
Regards,
Praveen.hi
Do the following steps:
PS:
CJCO - Budget Carry forward
CJCF - Commitment Carry forward
IM:
IM27 - Open New Approval Year
IM27_CLOSE - Closing Old Approval Year
IMCAOV - Budget Carry forward -
Procedure to carry forward Un-utilized commitment budget
Hi all,
what is the T.code & process to carry forward the "Un-utilized commitment budget" from one fiscal year to other fiscal year. ( since FR34 is in 4.6) please let me know new T.code & process in ECC6.0
Rgds,
Swathi.
Edited by: swathi fico on Dec 15, 2008 7:59 AM
Edited by: swathi fico on Dec 15, 2008 9:08 AM
Edited by: swathi fico on Dec 15, 2008 2:40 PM
Edited by: swathi fico on Dec 15, 2008 4:54 PMHi,
As per your request you want to know the transaction to carryforward COMMITMENT BUDGET.
Carryforward process with Former Budget
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If you are using Former Budget and you want to carryforward commitment budget, you should ONLY run the following steps:
Prepare Budget Carryforward (BPINDX05)
Carrying Forward Budget to the New Year (RFFMCF30).
Note that you can only carry forward commitment if the definitions made in the default settings for the year-end operations of Customizing for Funds Management Government allow this. For more information, see the IMG of Funds Management Government, section Enter Default Settings. Using program RFFMCFM1 Monitor Closing Operations, you can get an overview of the current Customizing settings.
The Commitment Carryforward must be executed before the budget carryover because the budget tied to the commitment is included in the calculation of the residual budget.
If you are using the function Revenues Increasing the Budget (distribution procedure), you must use the corresponding program to execute the budget increase. For more information, see Increasing the Budget in help.com.
Carryforward process with BCS
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You must define the parameters used for the commitment carryforward. Budget changes in the previous year and/or the following year depend on whether you use the statistics indicator for the commitment carryforward.
You should use transaction FMMPCOVR to run the carryforward process. Please check the documentation of this program (RFFMMP_COVR) via SE38. You will find not only information text but links in order to check all the needed customizing settings in order to run the carryforward process.
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You can find more information in help.sap.com in the menu:
Public Sector Management -> Funds Management -> Closing Operations -> Budget. There you have
2 submenus:
Budget Control System (BCS) and
Former Budgeting
I hope it helps you
Best Regards,
Vanessa.
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