G/L Accounts and Postings.
I always get confused about the which accounts are posted to during entire purchasing cycle. Means during GR, IV,GI ,PAYMENT OF DUTIES, CENVAT ACCOUNTS etc.
WHICH of them are debited and which of them are credited?
Can anybody Please suggest me any simple way to remember those postings.
Also from the perspective of financial accounting whats is Debit and Credit?
When to credit /debit certain G/L account in a process.
Regards,
DEEPIKA
Deepika:
Purchasing Cycle Entries
1. When PO is created :
No Entry -
2. When GR is posted
Inventory Account Dr (Transaction Key BSX in OBYC)
GRIR account Cr (T.Key WRX in T-code OBYC)
3. When Invoice is posted
GRIR account Dr.
Vendor account Cr.
4. Payment made to Vendor
Vendor A/c Dr
Bank A/c Cr
Some basic guidelines: What to Debit and what to credit:
In case if an account is an expense item: Debit an increase in the expense (telephone bill), credit a decrese in expense
In case if an account is an asset: Debit an increase in the value, credit a reduction in the value of the asset
In case an account is a liability: Credit an increase in libility and vice-versa
In case of reveue account like sales revenues: Credit an increase and vice-versa
Payment of duties: is an expense, so it should be debited, cash should be credited (expense increases, debit, cash is an asset, it decreases credit) - see the above logic.
Goods receipt: goods/inventory = assets increases, debit it.
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What is a Company Code and what are the basic organizational
assignments to a company code?
Company Code is a legal entity for which financial statements like Profit
and Loss and Balance Sheets are generated. Plants are assigned to the
company code, Purchasing organization is assigned to the company code,
and Sales organization is assigned to the company code.
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code?
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Company code
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b. Cross Company code relation
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different company codes. Controlling can have a one is to one
relationship or a one is to many relationship with different company
codes.
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Cost Center Accounting, Product Costing, Profit Center and Profitability
Analysis are stored.
In a similar way Company Codes is the umbrella for Finance activities.
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Accounts.
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four special periods. These periods are stored in what is called the fiscal
year variant.
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· Calendar Year e.g. Jan-Dec
· Year Dependent Fiscal Year .
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29. For the year 2006 January ends on 30th, Feb ends on 26th, March
ends on 30th. This is applicable to many countries especially USA. Ever
year this fiscal year variant needs to be configured in such a case
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you the consolidated figure.
FI-GL
Give some examples of GL accounts that should be posted
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system.
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should be automatically posted . In the GL account master record, a
check box exists wherein the automatic posting option is selected called
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· It defines the Number range for documents
· It controls the type of accounts that can be posted to eg
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· Document type to be used for reversal of entries
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Account and Balance Sheet needs to be extracted from SAP. It is freely
definable and multiple FSV's can be defined for generating the output for
various external agencies like Banks and other Statutory authorities.
How are input and output taxes taken care of in SAP?
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within this. There is flexibility to either expense out the Tax amounts or
Capitalize the same to Stocks.
What are Validations and Substitutions?
Validations/Substitutions in SAP are defined for each functional area
e.g. FI-GL, Assets, Controlling etc at the following levels
1. Document level
2. Line item level
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and done only when it is really needed. Often help of the technical team
is taken to do that.
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the MM module. Account codes should be maintained per valuation
grouping code after doing this configuration.
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company codes can also post to the same business area.
What are the different scenarios under which a Business Area or a
Profit Center may be defined?
This question is usually very disputable. But both Business Areas and
Profit centers are created for internal reporting. Each has its own pros
and cons but many companies nowadays go for Profit center as there is a
feeling that business area enhancements would not be supported by SAP
in future versions.
There are typical month end procedures which need to be executed for
both of them and many times reconciliation might become a big issue. A
typical challenge in both of them is in cases where you do not know the
Business Area or Profit Center of the transaction at the time of posting.
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The problem of splitting of account balance is more pertinent in case of
tax accounts.
Is it possible to default certain values for particular fields? For e.g.
company code.
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is present.
Step 1 Go to the input field to which you want to make defaults.
Step 2 Press F1, then click technical info push button. This would open
a window that displays the corresponding parameter id (if one has been
allocated to the field) in the field data section.
Step 3 Enter this parameter id using the following path on SAP Easy
access screen System à User profile à Own data.
Step 4 Click on parameter tab. Enter the parameter id code and enter the
value you want as default. Save the usersettings.
Which is the default exchange rate type which is picked up for all
SAP transactions?
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(average rate)
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rate type for a particular transaction?
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attach a different exchange rate type.
What are the master data pre-requisites for document clearing?
The Gl Account must be managed as an open item management . This
checkbox is there in the General Ledger Master Record called Open Item
Management. It helps you to manage your accounts in terms of cleared
and uncleared items. A typical example would be GR/IR Account in SAP
(Goods Received/Invoice Received Account)
Explain the importance of the GR/IR clearing account.
GR/IR is an interim account. In the legacy system of a client if the goods
are received and the invoice is not received the provision is made for the
same.
In SAP at the Goods receipt stage the system passes an accounting entry
debiting the Inventory and crediting the GR/IR Account .Subsequently
when an invoice is recd this GR/IR account is debited and the Vendor
account is credited. That way till the time that the invoice is not received
the GR/IR is shown as uncleared items.
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The number of line items in one document you can accommodate is 999
lines.
A Finance Document usually has an assignment field. This field
automatically gets populated during data entry. Where does it get
its value?
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Do you directly create it in the Production box or do you do it by
means of transport?
Number range is to be created in the production client. You can
transport it also by way of request but creating in the production client is
more advisable.
In customizing company code productive means what? What does
it denote?
Once the company code is live(real time transactions have started) this
check box helps prevents deletion of many programs accidentally. This
check box is activated just before go live.
What is done by GR/IR regrouping program?
The balance in a GR/IR account is basically because of 2 main types of
transactions:-
Goods delivered but invoice not received Here the Goods receipt is
made but no invoice has yet been received from the vendor. In such a
scenario GR/IR account will have a credit balance.
Invoiced received but goods not delivered Here the Invoice is
received from the vendor and accounted for, but goods have not been
received. In such a scenario GR/IR account will have a debit balance.
The GR/IR account would contain the net value of the above two types of
transactions. The GR/IR regrouping program analyses the above
transactions and regroups them to the correct adjustment account. The
balance on account of first transactions will be regrouped to another
liability account and the balance on account of second transactions will
be regrouped to an asset account.
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version?
In the financial statement version the most important functionality
available is the debit credit shift. This is more important in case of
Bank overdraft accounts which can have a debit balance or a credit
balance. Thus in case of a debit balance you would require the overdraft
account to be shown on the Asset side. In case of credit balance you
would require the account to be shown on the Liability side.
Is it possible to print the financial statement version on a SAPscript
form?
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form.
How do you configure the SAPscript form financial statement
version?
It is possible to generate a form from the financial statement version and
print the financial statements on a SAPscript form. In the customizing for
financial statement version select the FSV you created and choose Goto
à Generate form à One column or Two column form.
You can also copy form from the standard system.
Is it possible to generate a financial statement form automatically?
Yes. It is possible to generate a form automatically.
Is it possible to keep the FI posting period open only for certain GL
codes?
Yes. It is possible to keep open the FI posting period only for certain GL
codes.
How do you keep the FI posting period open only for certain GL
codes?
In transaction code OB52 click on new entries and maintain an interval
or a single GL code for the account type S with the posting period
variant. If the GL codes are not in sequence then you need to maintain
further entries for the posting period variant and account type S.
Can posting period variant be assigned to more than 1 company
code?
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code.
Accounts Receivable and Accounts
Payable
At what level are the customer and vendor codes stored in SAP?
The customer and vendor code are at the client level. That means any
company code can use the customer and vendor code by extending the
company code view.
How are Vendor Invoice payments made?
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Manual payments without the use of any output medium like cheques
etc.
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program:-
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Define sending and paying company code.
Tolerance days for payable
Minimum % for cash discount
Maximum cash discount
Special GL transactions to be paid
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Minimum amount for outgoing payment
No exchange rate diff
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Form for payment advice
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Whether allowed for personnel payment
Required master data
Doc types
Payment medium programs
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The minimum and maximum amount.
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Bank optimization by bank group or by postal code or no
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Customer/Vendor bank abroad allowed
Attach the payment form check
Whether payment advice required
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Payment method, currency and give them ranking nos
Set up house bank sub account (GL code)
Available amounts for each bank
House bank, account id, currency, available amount
Value date specification
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Payment terms for customer master can be maintained at two places i.e.
in the accounting view and the sales view of the vendor master record.
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transaction is posted for the customer (accounting view or the sales
view)?
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into picture if the transaction originates from the FI module. If an FI
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defaulted from the accounting view of the customer master.
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picture if the transaction originates from the SD module. A sales order is
created in the SD module. The payment terms are defaulted in the sales
order from the sales view of the customer master.
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Payment terms for Vendor master can be maintained at two places i.e. in
the accounting view and the purchasing view.
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transaction (accounting view or purchasing view)?
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invoice is posted (FB60) to the Vendor, then the payment terms is
defaulted from the accounting view of the vendor master.
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into picture if the transaction originates from the MM module. A
purchase order is created in the MM module. The payment terms are
defaulted in the purchase order from the purchasing view of the vendor
master.
Explain the entire process of Invoice verification from GR to Invoice
verification in SAP with accounting entries?
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A goods receipt in SAP for a purchased material is prepared referring a
purchase order.
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Inventory account Debit
GR/IR account credit
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which provides for the liability for the purchase. The rates for the
valuation of the material are picked up from the purchase order.
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verification the entry passed is as follows:-
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Posted with a Warning in the event of the Tolerances being exceeded.
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payment amount or differences between goods receipt amount and
invoice amount which is acceptable to the client.
Can we change the reconciliation account in the vendor master?
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provided that the authority to change has been configured. Normally we
should not change the reconciliation account.
What is the impact on the old balance when the reconciliation
account in the vendor master is changed?
Any change you make to the reconciliation account is prospective and
not retrospective. The old items and balances do not reflect the new
account only the new transactions reflect the account.
There is an advance given by the customer which lies in a special GL
account indicator A. Will this advance amount be considered for
credit check?
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the Relevant to credit limit indicator is switched on in the Special GL
indicator A the advances will be relevant for credit check, otherwise it will
not be relevant.
In payment term configuration what are the options available for
setting a default baseline date?
There are 4 options available:-
1) No default
2) Posting date
3) Document date
4) Entry date
What is generally configured in the payment term as a default for
baseline date?
Generally document date is configured in the payment term as a default
for base line date.
How do you configure a special GL indicator for Customer?
You can use an existing special GL indicator ID or create a new one.
After creating a special GL indicator id, update the chart of accounts and
the Reconciliation account. Also as a last step you need to update the
special GL code.
The special GL code should also be marked as a Reconciliation account.
Switch on the relevant for credit limit and commitment warning
indicators in the master record.
Bank Accounting:
How is Bank Reconciliation handled in SAP?
The bank reco typically follows the below procedure:
First, the payment made to a Vendor is posted to an interim bank
clearing account. Subsequently, while performing reconciliation, an entry
is posted to the Main Bank account. You can do bank reconciliation
either manually or electronically.
How do you configure check deposit?
The following are the steps for configuring check deposit:-
Step1: Create account symbols for the main bank and incoming check
account.
Step2: Assign accounts to account symbols
Step3: Create keys for posting rules
Step4: Define posting rules
Step5: Create business transactions and assign posting rule
Step6: Define variant for check deposit
What is the clearing basis for check deposit?
In the variant for check deposit we need to set up the following
a) fields document number ( which is the invoice number),
b) amount
c) Short description of the customer.
The document number and the invoice amount acts as the clearing
basis.
How do you configure manual bank statement?
The following are the steps for configuring manual bank statement:-
Step1: Create account symbols for the main bank and the sub accounts
Step2: Assign accounts to account symbols
Step3: Create keys for posting rules
Step4: Define posting rules
Step5: Create business transaction and assign posting rule
Step6: Define variant for Manual Bank statement
How do you configure Electronic bank statement?
The steps for Electronic Bank Statement are the same except for couple
of more additional steps which you will see down below
Step1: Create account symbols for the main bank and the sub accounts
Step2: Assign accounts to account symbols
Step3: Create keys for posting rules
Step4: Define posting rules
Step5: Create transaction type
Step6: Assign external transaction type to posting rules
Step7: Assign Bank accounts to Transaction types
Fixed Assets
What are the organizational assignments in asset accounting?
Chart of depreciation is the highest node in Asset Accounting and this is
assigned to the company code.
Under the Chart of depreciation all the depreciation calculations are
stored.
How do you go about configuring Asset accounting?
The configuration steps in brief are as follows:-
a) Copy a reference chart of depreciation areas
b) Assign Input Tax indicator for non taxable acquisitions
c) Assign chart of depreciation area to company code
d) Specify account determination
e) Define number range interval
f) Define asset classes
g) Define depreciation areas posting to general ledger
h) Define depreciation key
Explain the importance of asset classes. Give examples?
The asset class is the main criterion for classifying assets. Every asset
must be assigned to only one asset class. Examples of asset class are
Plant& Machinery, Furniture & Fixtures, Computers etc. The asset class
also contains the Gl accounts which are debited when any asset is
procured. It also contains the gl accounts for depreciation calculation,
scrapping etc
Whenever you create an asset master you need to mention the asset
class for which you are creating the required asset. In this manner
whenever any asset transaction happens the gl accounts attached to the
asset class is automatically picked up and the entry passed.
You can also specify certain control parameters and default values for
depreciation calculation and other master data in each asset class.
How are depreciation keys defined?
The specifications and parameters that the system requires to calculate
depreciation amounts are entered in Calculation methods. Calculation
methods replace the internal calculation key of the depreciation key.
Depreciation keys are defaulted in Asset Master from the asset class.
Refer to the configuration for more details of how depreciation is
calculated.
A company has its books prepared based on Jan Dec calendar year
for reporting to its parent company. It is also required to report
accounts to tax authorities based on April- March. Can assets be
managed in another depreciation area based on a different fiscal
year variant?
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which has a different start date (January for book depreciation and April
for tax depreciation) and different end date (December for book
depreciation and March for tax depreciation). In this case you need to
implement the special purpose ledger.
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migration into SAP system especially when Profit center accounting
is active?
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happens in Asset accounting module.
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values through FI bookings and at the same time the asset reconciliation
is updated online realtime. Whereas In data Migration the asset master
is updated with values through a transaction code called as AS91. The
values updated on the master are Opening Gross value and the
accumulated depreciation. The reconciliation GL account is not
automatically updated at this point of time.
The reconciliation accounts (GL codes) are updated manually through
another transaction code called as OASV.
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should transfer the asset balances to profit center accounting through a
program.
Thereafter you remove the Asset GL code (reconciliation accounts) from
the 3KEH table for PCA and update the Asset reconciliation account (GL
code) through OASV.
After this step you again update the Asset reconciliation account in the
3KEH table.
The reason you remove the Asset reconciliation code from 3KEH table is
that double posting will happen to PCA when you update the Asset
reconciliation manually.
Is it possible to calculate multiple shift depreciation? Is any special
configuration required?
Yes it is possible to calculate multiple shift depreciation in SAP for all
types of depreciation except unit of production. No special configuration
is required.
How do you maintain multiple shift depreciation in asset master?
The following steps are needed to maintain multiple shift depreciation:
1. The variable depreciation portion as a percentage rate is to be
maintained in the detail screen of the depreciation area.
2. The multiple shift factor is to be maintained in the time dependent
data in the asset master record. This shift factor is multiplied by
the variable portion of ordinary depreciation.
Once you have done the above the SAP system calculates the total
depreciation amount as follows:-
Depreciation amount = Fixed depreciation + (variable depreciation * shift
factor)
Lets say you have changed the depreciation rates in one of the
depreciation keys due to changes in legal requirements. Does
system automatically calculate the planned depreciation as per the
new rate?
No. System does not automatically calculate the planned depreciation
after the change is made. You need to run a program for recalculation of
planned depreciation.
What are evaluation groups?
The evaluation groups are an option for classifying assets for reports or
user defined match code (search code). You can configure 5 different
evaluation groups. You can update these evaluation groups on to the
asset master record.
What are group assets?
The tax requirements in some countries require calculation of
depreciation at a higher group or level of assets. For this purpose you
can group assets together into so-called group assets.
What are the steps to be taken into account during a depreciation
run to ensure that the integration with the general ledger works
smoothly?
For each depreciation area and company code, specify the following:
1 The frequency of posting depreciation(monthly,quarterly etc)
2 CO account assignment (cost center)
3 For each company code you must define a document type for
automatic depreciation posting: This document type requires its
own external number range.
4 You also need to specify the accounts for posting. (Account
determination)
Finally to ensure consistency between Asset Accounting and Financial
Accounting, you must process the batch input session created by the
posting report. If you fail to process the batch input session, an error
message will appear at the next posting run.
The depreciation calculation is a month end process which is run in
batches and then once the batch input is run the system posts the
accounting entries into Finance.
How do you change fiscal year in Asset Accounting?
n Run The fiscal year change program which would open new annual
value fields for each asset. i e next year
Ÿ The earliest you can start this program is in the last posting period of
the current year.
Ÿ You have to run the fiscal year change program for your whole
company code.
Ÿ You can only process a fiscal year change in a subsequent year if the
previous year has already been closed for business.
Take care not to confuse the fiscal year change program with year-end
closing for accounting purposes. This fiscal year change is needed only in
Asset Accounting for various technical reasons.
Is it possible to have depreciation calculated to the day?
Yes it is possible. You need to switch on the indicator Dep to the day in
the depreciation key configuration.
Is it possible to ensure that no capitalization be posted in the
subsequent years?
Yes it is possible. You need to set it in the depreciation key
configuration.
How are Capital Work in Progress and Assets accounted for in SAP?
Capital WIP is referred to as Assets under Construction in SAP and are
represented by a specific Asset class. Usually depreciation is not charged
on Capital WIP.
All costs incurred on building a capital asset can be booked to an
Internal Order and through the settlement procedure can be posted onto
an Asset Under Construction. Subsequently on the actual readiness of
the asset for commercial production, the Asset Under Construction gets
capitalized to an actual asset.
The company has procured 10 cars. You want to create asset
masters for each of this car. How do you create 10 asset masters at
the same time?
While creating asset master there is a field on the initial create screen
called as number of similar assets. Update this field with 10. When you
finally save this asset master you will get a pop up asking whether you
want to maintain different texts for these assets. You can update
different details for all the 10 cars.
FI-MM-SD Integration
How do you go about setting the FI MM account determination ?
FI MM settings are maintained in transaction code OBYC. Within these
there are various transaction keys to be maintained like BSX, WRX,
GBB, PRD etc. In each of these transaction keys you specify the GL
accounts which gets automatically passed at the time of entry.
Few examples could be: BSX- Stands for Inventory Posting Debit
GBB-Standsfor Goods Issue/Scrapping/delivery
of goods etc
PRD- Stands for Price Differences.
At what level is the FI-MM, FI-SD account determination settings?
They are at the chart of accounts level.
What are the additional settings required while maintaining or
creating the GL codes for Inventory accounts?
In the Inventory GL accounts (Balance sheet) you should switch on the
Post automatically only tick. It is also advisable to maintain the
aforesaid setting for all FI-MM accounts and FI-SD accounts. This helps
in preserving the sanctity of those accounts and prevents from having
any difference between FI and MM, FI and SD.
What is Valuation and Account assignment in SAP?
This is actually the link between Materials Management and Finance.
The valuation in SAP can be at the plant level or the company code level.
If you define valuation at the plant level then you can have different
prices for the same material in the various plants. If you keep it at the
company code level you can have only price across all plants.
Valuation also involves the Price Control .Each material is assigned to a
material type in Materials Management and every material is valuated
either in Moving Average Price or Standard Price in SAP. These are the
two types of price control available.
What is Valuation Class?
The Valuation Class in the Accounting 1 View in Material Master is the
main link between Material Master and Finance. This Valuation Class
along with the combination of the transaction keys (BSX,WRX,GBB,PRD )
defined above determine the GL account during posting.
We can group together different materials with similar properties by
valuation class. Eg Raw material,Finsihed Goods, Semi Finished
We can define the following assignments in customizing :
All materials with same material type are assigned to just one valuation
class.
Different materials with the same material type can be assigned to
different valuation classes.
Materials with different material types are assigned to a single valuation
class.
Can we change the valuation class in the material master once it is
assigned?
Once a material is assigned to a valuation class in the material master
record, we can change it only if the stocks for that material are nil. If the
stock exists for that material, then we cannot change the valuation class.
In such a case, if the stock exists, we have to transfer the stocks or issue
the stocks and make the stock nil for the specific valuation class. Then
only we will be able to change the valuation class.
Does the moving average price change in the material master during
issue of the stock assuming that the price control for the material is
Moving Average?
The moving average price in the case of goods issue remains unchanged.
Goods issue are always valuated at the current moving average price. It
is only in goods receipt that the moving average price might change. A
goods issue only reduces the total quantity and the total value in relation
to the price and the moving price remains unchanged. Also read the
next question to learn more about this topic.
If the answer to the above question is Yes, then list the scenario in
which the moving average price of the material in the material
master changes when the goods are issued.
The moving average price in the material master changes in the scenario
of Split Valuation which is sometimes used by many organizations. If the
material is subject to split valuation, the material is managed as Several
partial stocks and each partial stock is valuated separately.
In split valuation, the material with valuation header record will have v
moving average price. This is where the individual stocks of a material
are managed cumulatively. Here two valuation types are created, one
valuation type can have v (MAP) and the other valuation type can have
s(standard price).
In this case, whenever the goods are issued from the respective valuation
types, always the MAP for the valuation header changes.
What is the accounting entry in the Financial books of accounts
when the goods are received in unrestricted use stock? Also
mention the settings to be done in the Automatic postings in SAP
for the specific G/L accounts.
On receipt of the goods in unrestricted-use stock, the Inventory account
is debited and the GR/IR account gets credited. In customization, in the
automatic postings, the Inventory G/L account is assigned to the
Transaction event key BSX and the GR/IR account is assigned to the
Transaction event key WRX.
If a material has no material code in SAP, can you default the G/L
account in Purchase order or it has to be manually entered?.
If a material has no material code in SAP, we can still, default the G/L
account with the help of material groups. We can assign the valuation
class to a material group and then in FI-automatic posting, we can
assign the relevant G/L account in the Transaction event key. The
assignment of a valuation class to a material group enables the system to
determine different G/L accounts for the individual material groups.
What is the procedure in SAP for Initial stock uploading? Mention
the accounting entries also.
Initial stock uploading in SAP from the legacy system is done with
inventory movement type 561( a MM transaction which is performed).
Material valuated at standard price: For a material valuated at
standard price, the initial entry of inventory data is valuated on the basis
of standard price in the material master. If you enter an alternative value
at the time of the movement type 561, then the system posts the
difference to the price difference account.
Material valuated at moving average price: The initial entry of
inventory data is valuated as follows : If you enter a value when
uploading the initial data, the quantity entered is valuated at this price.
If you do not enter a value when entering initial data, then the quantity
entered is valuated at the MAP present in the material master.
The accounting entries are: Inventory account is debited and Inventory
Historical upload account is credited.
How do you configure FI-SD account determination?
The FI-SD account determination happens through an access sequence.
The system goes about finding accounts from more specific criteria to
less specific criteria.
This is the sequence it would follow:
1) It will first access and look for the combination of Customer
accounts assignment grp/ Material account assignment grp/
Account key.
2) If it does not find the accounts for the first combination it will look
for Customer account assignment grp and account key
combination.
3) Furthermore, if it does not find accounts for the first 2 criterias
then it will look for Material account assignment grp/Account key.
4) If it does not find accounts for the all earlier criterias then finally it
will look for Account key and assign the GL code.
Thus posting of Sales Invoices into FI are effected on the basis of a
combination of Sales organization, Account type, or Customer and
Material Account assignment groups and following are the options
available.
a. Customer AAG/Material AAG/Account type
b. Material AAG/Account type
c. Customer AAG/Account type
For each of this option you can define a Gl account. Thus the system
uses this gl account to automatically pass the entries.
Logistics Invoice Verification
Can you assign multiple G/L accounts in the Purchase order for the
same line item?
Yes, we can assign multiple G/L accounts in the Purchase order for the
same line item. The costs can be allocated on a percentage or quantity
basis. If the partial goods receipt and partial invoice receipt has already
taken place, then the partial invoice amount can be distributed
proportionally, i.e. evenly among the account assigned items of a
Purchase order. Alternatively the partial invoice amount can be
distributed on a progressive fill-up basis, i.e. the invoiced amount is
allocated to the individual account assignment items one after the other.
What is Credit memo and subsequent debit in Logistics Invoice
verification?
The term credit memo refers to the credit memo from the vendor.
Therefore posting a credit memo always leads to a debit posting on the
vendor account. Credit memos are used if the quantity invoiced is higher
than the quantity received or if part of the quantity was returned.
Accounting entries are : Vendor account is debited and GR/IR account is
credited.
Subsequent debit : If a transaction has already been invoiced and
additional costs are invoiced later, then subsequent debit is necessary. In
this case you can debit the material with additional costs, i.e. GR/IR
account debit and Vendor account credit. When entering the Subsequent
debit, if there is no sufficient stock coverage, only the portion for the
available stock gets posted to the stock account and rest is posted to the
price difference account.
What do you mean by Invoice parking, Invoice saving and Invoice
confirmation?
Invoice parking : Invoice Parking is a functionality which allows you to
create incomplete documents and the system does not check whether the
entries are balanced or not. An accounting documents is also not created
when the invoice is in parked mode.
Thus you can create incomplete documents and then post it later to
accounting when you feel it is complete. You can even rectify the Parked
invoice. This feature is used by many companies as on many occasions
all data relating to the invoice might not be available.
Invoice saving : This is also called Invoice processing or Invoice posting.
The accounting document gets created when the invoice is posted in SAP.
Invoice confirmation : There is no terminology in SAP as Invoice
confirmation.
What are Planned delivery costs and Unplanned delivery costs?
Planned delivery costs: are entered at the time of Purchase order. At
goods receipt, a provision is posted to the freight or customs clearing
account.
e.g. FRE is the account key for freight condition, hence the system can
post the freight charges to the relevant freight revenue account and FR3
is the account key for Customs duty, hence the system can post the
customs duty to the relevant G/L account.
These account keys are assigned to the specific condition types in the
MM Pricing schema.
In terms of Invoice verification : If the freight vendor and the material
vendor is the same : then we can choose the option : Goods service items
+ Planned delivery costs.
If the freight vendor is different from the material vendor: then for
crediting only the delivery costs, we can choose the option: Planned
delivery costs.
Unplanned delivery costs: are the costs which are not specified in the
Purchase order and are only entered when you enter the invoice.
What is the basis on which the apportionment is done of unplanned
delivery costs?
Unplanned delivery costs are either uniformly distributed among the
items or posted to a separate G/L account.
For a material subjected to Moving average price, the unplanned delivery
costs are posted to the stock account, provided sufficient stock coverage
exists.
For a material subjected to Standard price, the unplanned delivery costs
are posted to the Price difference account.
There are cases where Invoice verification is done first before the
Goods receipt is made for the purchase order . In these cases with
what values would the Goods receipt be posted ?
Since the invoice verification has been done first the Goods Receipts will
be valued with the Invoice value.
FI Month End Closing Activities
What are the Month End Closing Activities in Finance?
1. Recurring Documents.
a) Create Recurring documents
b) Create Batch Input for Posting Recurring Documents
c) Run the Batch Input Session
2. Posting Accruals or Provisions entries at month end
3. Managing the GR/IR Account-Run the GR/Ir Automatic Clearing
4. Foreign Currency Open Item Revaluation-Revalue Open Items in
AR.AP
5. Maintain Exchange Rates
6. Run Balance Sheets Run Financial Statement Version
7. Reclassify Payables and Receivables if necessary
8. Run the Depreciation Calculation
9. Fiscal Year Change of Asset Accounting if it is year end
10. Run the Bank Reconciliation
11. Open Next Accounting Period
Controlling Module
Explain the organizational assignment in the controlling module?
Company codes are assigned to the controlling area. A controlling area
is assigned to the operating concern.
Controlling Area is the umbrella under which all controlling activities of
Cost Center Accounting, Product costing, Profitability Analysis and Profit
Center are stored.
Operating Concern is the highest node in Profitability Analysis
What is primary Cost element and secondary cost element?
Every Profit and Loss GL account that needs to be controlled has to be
defined as a cost element in SAP. Just as in FI General Ledger Accounts
exist, in Controlling we have Cost element.
Each FI General Ledger Account that is a Profit and Loss Account is also
created as a Cost element in SAP.
Primary Cost Elements are those which are created from FI general
Ledger Accounts and impact the financial accounts eg. Travelling
expenses, consumption account infact, any Profit and Loss GL account
Secondary Cost Elements are those which are created only in
controlling and does not affect the financials of the company. It is used
for internal reporting only. The postings to these accounts do not affect
the Profit or Loss of the company.
The following categories exist for secondary cost elements:
21 Internal Settlement:
Cost elements of this category is used to settle order costs to objects in
controlling such as cost centers, pa segments etc.
31 Order/Results Analysis:
Used to calculate WIP on the order/project
41 Overhead
Used to calculate indirect costs from cost centers to orders
42. Assessment
Used to calculate costs during assessment
43 Internal Activity Allocation
Used to allocate costs during internal activity allocation such as Machine
Labour etc
What are cost objects?
A cost object means a cost or a revenue collector wherein all the costs or
revenues are collected for a particular cost object. Examples of this could
be cost center, production order, internal order, projects, sales order
So whenever you look at any controlling function the basic thing you
need to ask yourself is What is the cost element(expense) I want to
control and what is the cost object ( i.e. either the production order, sales
order, internal order) I am using to control this cost element. Sounds
confusing read it again it is very simple
Controlling is all about knowing the cost element and the cost
object. Every time pose this question to yourself what is the cost
element what is the cost object.
At the end of the period all costs or revenues in the cost object are settled
to their respective receivers which could be a gl account, a cost center,
profitability analysis or asset.
It is very important that you understand this otherwise you would
struggle to understand Controlling.
Cost Center Accounting:
How is cost center accounting related to profit center?
In the master data of the Cost Center there is a provision to enter the
profit center. This way all costs which flow to the cost center are also
captured in the profit center.
Cost centers are basically created to capture costs e.g. admin cost center,
canteen cost center etc
Profit centers are created to capture cost and revenue for a particular
plant, business unit or product line.
What is a cost element group?
Cost element group is nothing but a group of cost elements which help
one to track and control cost more effectively. You can make as many
number of cost element groups as you feel necessary by combining
various logical cost elements.
What is a cost center group?
In a similar line the cost center group is also a group of cost centers
which help one to track and control the cost of a department more
effectively. You can make as many number of cost centers as you feel
necessary by combining various logical cost centers
Infact you can use various combinations of cost center group with the
cost element group to track and control your costs per department or
across departments
What is the difference between Distribution and Assessment?
Distribution uses the original cost element for allocating cost to the
sender cost center. Thus on the receiving cost center we can see the
original cost element from the sender cost center. Distribution only
allocates primary cost.
Assessment uses assessment cost element No 43 defined above to
allocate cost. Thus various costs are summarized under a single
assessment cost element. In receiver cost center the original cost
breakup from sender is not available. Assessment allocates both primary
as well as secondary cost.
What are the other activities in Cost center?
If you have a manufacturing set up, entering of Activity prices per cost
center/activity type is an important exercise undertaken in Cost center
accounting.
What is an Activity Type?
Activity types classify the activities produced in the cost centers.
Examples of Activity Type could be Machine, Labour, Utilities
You want to calculate the activity price through system? What are
the requirements for that?
In the activity type master you need to select price indicator 1 Plan
price, automatically based on activity.
When activity price is calculated through system whether activity
price is shown as fixed or variable?
Normally when activity price is calculated through system it is shown as
fixed activity price since primary cost are planned as activity independent
costs.
What is required to be done if activity price is to be shown both
fixed and variable?
In this case you need to plan both activity independent cost which are
shown as fixed costs and activity dependent costs which are shown as
variable costs.
Is it possible to calculate the planned activity output through
system?
Yes. It is possible to calculate the planned activity output through
system by using Long term Planning process in PP module.
Explain the process of calculating the planned activity output
through Long term planning?
In Long term planning process the planned production quantities are
entered for the planning year in a particular scenario. The Long term
planning is executed for the scenario. This generates the planned activity
requirements taking the activity quantities from the routing and
multiplying with the planned production.
The activity requirements are then transferred to the controlling module
as scheduled activity quantities. Thereafter you execute a plan activity
reconciliation which will reconcile the schedule activity and the activity
you have planned manually. The reconciliation program updates the
scheduled activity quantity as the planned activity in the controlling
module.
You want to revalue the production orders using actual activity
prices. Is there any configuration setting?
Yes. There is a configuration setting to be done.
Where is the configuration setting to be done for carrying out
revaluation of planned activity prices in various cost objects?
The configuration setting is to be done in the cost center accounting
version maintenance for fiscal year. This has to be maintained for version
0. You need to select revalue option either using own business
transaction or original business transaction.
At month end you calculate actual activity prices in the system.
You want to revalue the production orders with this actual activity
prices. What are the options available in the system for revaluation?
The options available are as follows:-
You can revalue the transactions using periodic price, average price or
cumulative price.
Further you can revalue the various cost objects as follows:-
Own business transaction Differential entries are posted
Original business transaction The original business transaction is
changed.
Internal orders
What is the purpose of defining Internal orders.?
An example would help us understand this much better.
Lets say in an organization there are various events such as trade fairs,
training seminars, which occur during the year. Now lets assume for a
second that these Trade fairs are organized by the Marketing cost center
of the organization. Therefore in this case marketing cost center is
responsible for all the trade fairs costs. All these trade fairs costs are
posted to the marketing cost centers. Now if the management wants an
analysis of the cost incurred for each of the trade fair organized by
the marketing cost center how would the marketing manager get
this piece of information across to them? The cost center report
would not give this piece of info
Now this is where Internal Order steps in .If you go through all cost
center reports this information is not readily available since all the costs
are posted to the cost center.
SAP, therefore provides the facility of using internal orders which comes
in real handy in such situations. In the above scenario the controlling
department would then need to create an internal order for each of the
trade fair organized. The cost incurred for each of the trade fair will be
posted to the internal orders during the month. At the month end, these
costs which are collected in the internal order will be settled from these
orders to the marketing cost center. Thus the controlling person is now
in a position to analyze the cost for each of the trade fair separately.
Thus internal order is used to monitor costs for short term events,
activities. It helps in providing more information than that is provided on
the cost centers. It can be widely used for various purposes .
How can you default certain items while creation of internal order
master data?
You can do so by creating a model order and then update the fields
which you want to default in this model order. Finally attach this model
order in the internal order type in the field reference order.
Once the above is done whenever you create an internal order for this
order type the field entries will get copied from the model order.
What is the configuration setting for the release of the internal
order immediately after creation?
You have to check the release immediately check box in the
internal order type.
Product Costing
What are the important Terminologies in Product Costing?:
Results Analysis Key This key determines how the Work in Progress is
calculated
Cost Components - The break up of the costs which get reflected in
the product costing eg. Material Cost, Labour Cost, Overhead etc
Costing Sheets - This is used to calculate the overhead in
Controlling
Costing Variant - For All manufactured products the price control
recommended is Standard Price. To come up with this standard price for
the finished good material this material has to be costed. This is done
using Costing Variant. Further questions down below will explain this
concept better.
What are the configuration settings maintained in the costing
variant?
Costing variant forms the link between the application and Customizing,
since all cost estimates are carried out and saved with reference to a
costing variant. The costing variant contains all the control parameters
for costing.
The configuration parameters are maintained for costing type, valuation
variants, date control, and quantity structure control.
In costing type we specify which field in the material master should be
updated.
In valuation variant we specify the following
a) the sequence or order the system should go about accessing
prices for the material master (planned price, standard price,
moving average price etc).
b) It also contains which price should be considered for activity price
calculation and .
c) How the system should select BOM and routing.
How does SAP go about costing a Product having multiple Bill of
materials within it?
SAP first costs the lowest level product, arrives at the cost and then goes
and cost the next highest level and finally arrives at the cost of the final
product.
What does the concept of cost roll up mean in product costing
context?
The purpose of the cost roll up is to include the cost of goods
manufactured of all materials in a multilevel production structure at the
topmost level of the BOM(Bill of Material)
The costs are rolled up automatically using the costing levels.
1) The system first calculates the costs for the materials with the
lowest costing level and assigns them to cost components.
2) The materials in the next highest costing level (such as semifinished
materials) are then costed. The costs for the materials
costed first are rolled up and become part of the material costs of
the next highest level.
What is a settlement profile and why is it needed?
All the costs or revenues which are collected in the Production order or
Sales order for example have to be settled to a receiver at the end of the
period. This receiver could be a Gl account, a cost center, profitability
analysis or asset. Also read the question What is a cost object in the
section Controlling.
In order to settle the costs of the production order or sales order a
settlement profile is needed.
In a settlement profile you define a range of control parameters for
settlement. You must define the settlement profile before you can enter a
settlement rule for a sender.
The Settlement Profile is maintained in the Order Type and defaults
during creating of order.
Settlement profile includes:-
1) the retention period for the settlement documents.
2) Valid receivers GL account, cost center, order, WBS element, fixed
asset, material, profitability segment, sales order, cost objects, order
items, business process
3) Document type is also attached here
4) Allocation structure and PA transfer structure is also attached to the
settlement profile e.g. A1
The settlement profile created is then attached to the order type.
What is Transfer or Allocation structure?
The transfer structure is what helps in settling the cost from one cost
object to the receiver. It is maintained in the Settlement profile defined
above.
The Transfer structure has 2 parts:
a) Source of cost elements you want to settle
b) Target receiver whether it is a Profitability segment or fixed asset or
cost center
So basically for settling the costs of a cost object you need
to define the Transfer structure where you mention what
are the costs you want to settle and the target receiver for
that.
This information you fit it in the settlement profile which
contains various other parameters and this settlement
profile is defaulted in the Order type. So every time a
order is executed the relevant settlement rule is stored
and at the month end by running the transaction of the
settlement of orders all the cost is passed on to the
receiver
So to put in simple terms:
a) You define your cost object which could be a
production order a sales order for eg
b) You collect costs or revenues for it
c) You determine where you want to pass these costs or
revenues to for eg if the sales order is the cost object
all the costs or revenues of a sales order could be
passed to Profitability Analysis
What do you mean by primary cost compon -
Link between GL account and Billing Document
Dear SD Gurus,
We are involved in a BI report generation. In the sales report customer wants to bifurcate the sales into Domestic and Export. They are give a logic of taking this bifurcation from GL account. Customer is maintaning 2 different GL account 40000000 - Export and 40100000 for Domestic.
My question here is How i will relate GL account to billing document? If yes, please tell me the table where i can find both...
With Regards,
Balachander.Shello, friend.
one way of looking at this is through account determination. billing documents are posted to accounting (and therefore, accounting documents are created that are linked to the billing document) based on settings in account determination.
please check if the postings to GL accounts are based on any or all of the following:
1. sales organization
2. account key (e.g. ERL for revenue)
3. account assignment group (customer, material, etc.)
4. condition type
we use t-code VKOA to do account determination.
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Hi! My name is Derek Turner and I have been hacked through a friend's email message to me which I opened unsuspecting any danger. Initially, he sent me an 'attention' or warning email with a link which I tried to open but it could not be opened, so I left it not knowing what it was all about at the time. Later, I received another email from him (probably the hacker) and opened a 'not very pleasant' web site. It did not twig with me at the time as I am a bit new to this type of thing but when I mentioned it to my wife she immediately said that I had been 'hacked'. By this time it was too late, and it infected all my email addresses! I would be grateful if you may know if there is software that I can use to clean up my email account and if there is anything for iPad minis that can prevent this happening in future? (Malware, Firewall?). I am also getting emails back that relate to the hacker and I cannot 'delete' them from my iPad, only on my PC! Any suggestions?
Thank you for your time regarding this matter,
Derek Turner,( a very new iPad mini user!)Hi,
I don't think that can be solved by any advice the regular posters could post here.
I would go back to Apple and explain the situation (again).
I would also consider closing the account (Apple rarely seem to do this as accounts are never deleted but just closed).
I understand this may cause issues for things purchased in iTunes and the App Store which my include Restoring the OS at some point.
8:20 pm Tuesday; September 16, 2014
iMac 2.5Ghz i5 2011 (Mavericks 10.9)
G4/1GhzDual MDD (Leopard 10.5.8)
MacBookPro 2Gb (Snow Leopard 10.6.8)
Mac OS X (10.6.8),
Couple of iPhones and an iPad -
Sharing an iTunes Library across multiple user account and a network.
Sharing an iTunes Music Library across multiple user accounts.
Hello Everybody!
Firstly, this was designed to be run in Mac OS X 10.4 Tiger. It will not work with earlier versions of Mac OS X! Sorry.
Here's a handy tip for keeping your hard drive neat and tidy, it also saves space, what in effect will be done is an iTunes music library will be shared amongst multiple users on the same machine. There are advantages and disadvantages to using this method.
• Firstly I think it might be worthwhile to state the advantages and disadvantages to using this approach.
The advantages include:
- Space will be saved, as no duplicate files will occur.
- The administrator will be able to have complete control over the content of the iTunes library, this may be useful for restricting the content of the Library; particularly for example if computer is being used at and education institution, business or any other sort of institution where things such as explicit content would be less favorable.
- The machine will not be slowed by the fact that every user has lots of files.
The disadvantages to this system include.
- The fact that the account storing the music will have to be logged in, and iTunes will have to be active in that account.
- If the account housing the music is not active then nobody can use the iTunes library.
- There is a certain degree of risk present when an administrator account must be continually active.
- Fast User Switching must be enabled.
Overview:
A central account controls all music on the machine/network, this is achieved by storing iTunes files in a public location as opposed to in the user's directory. In effect the system will give all users across the machine/network access to the same music/files without the possibility of files 'doubling up' because two different users like the same types of music. This approach saves valuable disk space in this regard and may therefore prove to be useful in some situations.
This is a hearty process to undertake, so only follow this tutorial if you're willing to go all the way to the end of it.
Process:
Step 1:
Firstly, we need to organize the host library, I tidied mine up, removing excess playlists, random files, things like that. this will make thing a bit easier in the later stages of this process.
Once the library is tidied up, move the entire "iTunes" folder from your Home directory to the "//localhost" directory (The Macintosh HD) and ensure that files are on the same level as the "Applications", "Users", "Library" and "System" directories; this will ensure that the files in the library are available to all users on the machine (this also works for networks)
Optionally you can set the ownership of the folder to the 'administrator' account (the user who will be hosting the library.), you may also like to set the permissions of 'you can' to "Read & Write" (assuming that you are doing this through the user who will host the library); secondly you should set the "Owner" to the administrator who will be hosting the library and set their "access" to "Read & Write" (this will ensure that the administrator has full access to the folder). The final part of this step involves setting access for the "Others" tab to "Read Only" this will ensure that the other users can view but not modify the contents on the folder.
Overview:
So far we have done the following steps:
1. Organized the host library.
2. Placed the iTunes directory into a 'public' directory so that other users may use it. (this step is essential if you plan on sharing the library across multiple accounts on the same machine. NOTE: this step is only necessary if you are wanting to share you library across multiple accounts on the same machine, if you simply want to share the music across a network, use the iTunes sharing facility.
3. set ownership and permissions for the iTunes music folder.
Step 2:
Currently the administrator is the only user who can use this library, however we will address this soon. In this step we will enable iTunes music sharing in the administrator's account, this will enable other users to access the files in the library.
If you are not logged in as the administrator, do so; secondly, open iTunes and select "Preferences" from the "iTunes" menu, now click the "Sharing" tab, if "share my library on my local network" is not checked, the radio buttons below this will now become active, you may choose to share the entire libraries contents, or share only selected content.
Sharing only selected content may be useful if their is explicit content in the library and minors use the network or machine that the library is connected to.
If you have selected "share entire library" go to Step 3, if you have selected share "share selected playlists" read on.
After clicking "share selected playlists" you must then select the playlists that you intend to share across your accounts and network. Once you have finished selecting the playlists, click "OK" to save the settings.
Overview:
In this step we:
1. Enabled iTunes sharing in the administrator's account, now, users on the local network may access the iTunes library, however, users on the same machine may not.
Step 3:
Now we will enable users on the same machine to access the library on the machine. This is achieved by logging in as each user, opening iTunes, opening iTunes preferences, and clicking "look for shared music". now all users on the machine may also access the library that the administrator controls.
This in effect will mean that the user will not need to use their user library, it will be provided to them via a pseudo network connection.
As a secondary measure, I have chosen to write a generic login script that will move any content from the user's "Music/iTunes/iTunes Music" directory to the trash and then empties the user's trash.
This is done through the use of an Automator Application: this application does the following actions.
1. Uses the "Finder" action "Get Specified Finder Items"
1a. The user's "~/Music/iTunes/iTunes Music" folder
2. Uses the "Finder" action "Get Folder Contents"
3. Uses the "Finder" action "Move to Trash"
4. Uses the "Automator" action "Run AppleScript"
4a. with the following:
on run {input, parameters}
tell application "Finder"
empty trash
end tell
return input
end run
IMPORTANT: Once the script is adapted to the user account it must be set as a login item. in order to keep the script out of the way i have placed it in the user's "Library" directory, in "Application Support" under "iTunes".
Overview:
Here we:
1. Enabled iTunes sharing in the user accounts on the host machine, in effect allowing all users of the machine to view a single iTunes library.
2. (Optional) I have created a login application that will remove any content that has been added to user iTunes libraries, this in effect stops other users of the machine from adding music and files to iTunes.
Step 4:
If it is not already enabled, open system preferences and enable Fast User Switching in Accounts Options.
Summary:
We have shared a single iTunes library across multiple user account, while still allowing for network sharing. This method is designed to save space on machines, particularly those with smaller hard drives.
I hope that this hint proves to be helpful and I hope everybody will give me feedback on my process.
regards,
Pete.
iBook G4; 60GB Hard Drive, 512MB RAM, Airport Extreme Mac OS X (10.4.6) iWork & iLife '06, Adobe CS2, Final Cut Pro. Anything and Everything!!!how to share music between different accounts on a single computer
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We have our family sharing one itunes account. we have 3 iphones, 2 macbook airs, 2 ipads and 1 mac. I am not sure how we even got started on the icloud but somehow we did and everything is a mess. The ipads are showing the text messages, the contacts are all combined, the apps that my duaghter downloads are appearing on all devices. how do we fix this so contacts are not shared, messages are not shared and apps are not automatically synced to all devises?
You have two different issues going on. You are getting each other's messages because you are sharing the Same Apple ID for iMessage. This can be corrected by going to Settings>Messages>Send & Receive on add the devices and doing one of the following:
Either uncheck the email address shown under "You can be reached by iMessage at" on all of your devices; or
If you want to continue to receive iMessages at this email address on one of your devices, on all of the other ones tap the Apple ID at the top, sign out, then sign back in using a different Apple ID (so all devices will be using a different Apple ID for iMessage). Note: you can continue to share an Apple ID for purchasing from the iTunes and App stores. It does not need to be the same as the ID you are using for iMessage, FaceTime and other services.
The second issue is that you are sharing the same iCloud account on your devices. When you do this any data you sync with the shared iCloud account such as contacts is merged and will appear on all devices connected to the account. To fix this you both need to have separate iCloud accounts (you can continue to share the same Apple ID for purchasing from the iTunes and app stores).
First decide which device(s) will be keeping the current iCloud account. On the one(s) that will be changing accounts, if you have any photos in photo stream that in your camera roll or backed up somewhere else that you want to keep on the device(s), save these to the camera roll by opening the photo stream album in the thumbnail view, tapping Edit, then tap all the photos you want to save, tap Share and tap Save to Camera Roll.
Once this is done, go to Settings>iCloud, scroll to the bottom and tap Delete Account. (This will only delete the account from this device, not from iCloud. The device(s) that will be keeping the account will not be effected by this.) When prompted about what to do with the iCloud data, be sure to select Keep On [iDevice]. Next, set up a new iCloud account using a separate Apple ID (if you don't have one, tap Get a Free Apple ID at the bottom). Then turn iCloud data syncing for contacts, etc. back to On, and when prompted about merging with iCloud, choose Merge. This will upload the data to the new account. Repeat this process for all the devices that you need to migrate to new accounts.
When finished, to un-merge the data in your accounts you will have to go to icloud.com on your computer and sign into each iCloud account separately and manually delete the data you don't want (such as deleting the other person's contacts from your account, and vice versa).
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