GATP in APO and Free Goods Pricing Records in R/3
We have set up Free Goods in SAP R/3. These free goods are granted based upon a series of access sequences in pricing.
We also have our Order Entry system using GATP on our APO box. In that APO instance, we have set up a large number of product substitutions to occur at order time.
When an item is ordered that is NOT subbed to different item by APO and that item has Free Goods associated with it, the Free Goods are granted by R/3 and placed onto the sales order.
When an item is ordered that IS subbed to different item by APO and that item has Free Goods associated with it, the Free Goods are NOT granted by R/3.
Why are the Free Goods being ignored after the substitution? We have Free Goods records in pricing for BOTH items, and neither one is granting the Free Goods.
Is this a bug, a feature, or an oversight ?
Any help in this area will be GREATLY appreciated!!!
Hi John,
GATP in APO does not supports Free Goods.
Rohit
Edited by: rohit kumar on Feb 20, 2009 1:33 AM
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Hello Folks,
My understanding is Free goods is determined basically based on quantity as in quantity ordered.
The system re-reads free goods condition record in the sales order when quantities of the main item changes or when Pricing Date changes.
Based on the above, I need to clarify :
1. If free goods is based on quantity, how does a change in the pricing date affect the determination? I assume the by pricing date change, it is referring to the pricing date setting in a free goods condition record.
So, I am not sure why pricing date change requires a re-determination of the condition record for free goods.
Or is it because free goods is determined based on $ amount of goods ordered?
Moreover, its said that when Pricing is Re-Run, free goods determination is un-affected.
Cheers.
JohnHi,
Free goods can be of two types. Inclusive and Exclusive.
Inclusive discount are always value discount. What I mean is, if you buy 10 qty of an item, say 2 qty is free, then, it means, 20% off on the original price. i.e. only 8 are billed and 2 are discounted from pricing.
In exclusive free goods, you are shipping 10 qty of an item + 2 qty of the same item in addition to 10. So, 10 are billed.
When the pricing date in the sales order is changed, how will the system know whether the item being priced on a particular day should allow the free goods or not. So, free goods determination becomes necessary. Hence, it goes thro' free goods determination when you change the pricing date on the sales order.
Hope this helps.
Regards,
Mukund S -
Scale in pricing and free goods.
Hi All,
Can anyone plz tell me ,What is the role and how to use the scale in pricing and free goods determination.
Regards,
Ashimahi,
. Create a condition by copying a a standard condition like BO03 in V/06
2. Assign this condition in the std pricing procedure with acct key as ERB and accural key as ERU - V/08
3.Create a Rebate Agreement in VBO1 (It is O = Owl and not zero). No will be generated
choose 003 - Customer rebates, enter the customer code, the validity and check for the status shld be in Open, click on the conditions enter the percentage and accrual amount. You also can have scales in this. Also you need to maintain the material for the settlement
4. Create a sales order for that customer and check the rebate agreement.
5. You can see the rebate condition in the invoice only.
6. Once you have posted the invoices, then go to rebate agrrement no. clicl on verfication and it will show the order details.
7. For settlement change the status of the rebate to B - release for the settlement.
8. Credit memo request will b generated copy the no. and go to VA02, remove the blocks if any and create an invoice (credit memo).this will show u the accrual amount.
9. In both the invoice and the credit memo check the posting - accounting document it will show u the accrual as negative.
10. Again go to rebate aggreement and check the status it will show you D - Final settlement of agreement already carried out
Regards,,
JP -
Free of charge delivery and free goods
hello,
I need clarification on the following.
There are two different things. one is free of charge delivery and the other is free goods.
1) for free of charge delivery, order type is FD , I think we have to maintain TANN(with pricing as B,100% discount). This will trigger R100 as 100% discount condition in pricing procedure. Am i right ?
2) The other is Free goods determination(OR order type). where free goods condition records are maintained and gets determined in sales order. for this scenario, TAN and TANN (100% disc) is maintained in item caterory determination. I think in this case NRAB is required and not R100 in pricing ? am i right ? ..
regdsHi,
Free of charge delivery -
Free of charge delivery is used mostly when you provide samples to customer
http://help.sap.com/SCENARIOS_BUS2004/helpdata/EN/31/923341431ef723e10000000a155106/content.htm
Free goods -
It is mostly used when you are providing something free when customer purchase of one Item/material
http://help.sap.com/SCENARIOS_BUS2007/helpdata/EN/b7/4a893a8729337be10000000a11402f/content.htm
Kapil -
Hi,
I need to configure the free gods functionality and I look for clarification from those who have configured it . My questions are.
1) how does the system determines while creating sales order that free goods are involved.
2) for main item, if the item category is TAN, then for exclusive free goods the item category will be TANN ? Is the following combination ok for free goods item category detemination ?
OR + NORM+TAN(higher level) +FREE(usage)=TANN......where TAN is the item cateogry of main item
3) How is the free goods pricing procedure works. ?? I mean do we have to define the basic price condition PR00 in the free goods pricing procedure so that the system applies the basic price to the main item ? for example if the main billable qty is 10, and per unit price is 100, then the basic price will be 10*100=1000 for the main billable items in the free goods pricing procedure.
now if free goods are 2 (exclusive), then the system shows in the pricing line item a basic price of 2100=200 and then a condition R100 is shown as a negative amount of 2100= -200 so that net value is zero ??
4) I think when the material is entered, then the system reads the free goods master record and then determines the main item category for billable item and then free item category is determined and then pricing is carried out
pls validate my above points ?
regdsHi
Yes, there will be only one pricing procedure for free goods and normal goods.
Free goods procedure is to determine the free goods condition records (maintained through VBN1) and now way related to pricing.
Pricing procedure is to determine the price for each line item based on the conditon records (maintained through VK11).
As an example- there is free goods conditon record for a material as 10 + 2 exclusive and hence for an order quantity of 10 you can see a second line item for a quantity of 2 as a sub item with item category as TANN.
The pricing happens the same way for both the line items and you can check that in the conditions tab of each line item.
While carrying out the pricing, system goes to the first conditon type in the pricing procedure and if it satisfies the requirement then accesses the conditon records and picks if there is any valid conditon record. Like wise, it checks all the condition types in the pricing procedure. In this process it also checks the conditon type R100 and the requirement will not be satisfied for the first line item and hence will not determine any value. In the case of the sub item with TANN item category, the condition records will be determined as happened for the first line item and also the R100 will be determined. Because, the reqirement for R100 says, the pricing details(in VOV7) for the corresponding item category(which is TANN) should be B-Pricing for free goods(100% discount). TANN satisfies this conditon and it determines the total amount here, making the net value as zero. If there are any values below the R100 condition type in the pricing procedure, then the net value will not be zero. Hence positioning of the R100 condition type has importance in designing the pricing procedure. If you change the value for TANN in VOV7 from B to X, then R100 will not be determined even though the free goods are determined in the sales order as sub items. The pricing happens the same way to both main item and sub item (free goods).
Regards,
Ravi -
Hello SD gurus,
We want to implement the following price model for our Client.
Our approach is to include Base price and Free goods with it to achieve this
Pricing Requirement:
* As per the Business process of Client - the Material equipment is Wheelchair.
* On the order of Wheelchair, First 4 wheelchairs are always free irrespective of the total ordered Quantity.
*Price per wheel chair is 20USD
*Brief Description is mentioned below in the tabular form-
Units in Item
Price (in USD)
1
0
2
0
3
0
4
0
5
0
6
20
7
40
8
60
9
80
We tried to implement free goods determination with the help of NRAB and ZA00(copy of NA00) condition types , however, it was found that till first 9 ordered quantities, the basic price is calculating the ordered quantity with respect to 20USD, however, the deviation occurs in NRAB condition type (Reqt =59, Alt condition base=29) from the 10th quantity onwards.
We already checked by maintaining Minimum quantity =4 , From=5,no. of free goods=4 in the free goods condition type.
Still it did not worked and reflected the variation in terms of the net value (Basic price - free goods price)
Finally we again created a negative condition type (Discount or surcharge) FREE with the calculation type -fixed amount, wherein the condition record , we fixed the value as 80 USD (20 USD per unit price X 4 minimum free quantities) and found that the system is calculating -80USD for the free goods with respect to the minimum quantity of 4 or more - which is so far correct.
Request you to kindly give suggestions for the scenario wherein -
If the quantity is 0-3 ie less than 4 , the system should populate the price as ZERO as part of the first four free goods concept. Unfortunately our solution is not catering to this specific requirement.
Request your inputs to implement this scenario.
Thanks and regards,
Tarun Jain
SAP SD.Hi Tarun,
This can be met by using free goods functionality itself.
It will be an inclusive free goods scenario.
The easiest way will be to have a new free goods calculation routine (in VBN1), the routine will have logic like, fixed 4 quantity free always when the free goods condition is triggerd.
Try that, discuss with abaper for the routine creation.
Regards
Jobi -
Free goods condition records - Usage in Sales Order
HI,
I have so many condition records in various KOTN9xx tables, which are for issuing free goods. If I see a sales order item, that is a free good, how do I know, on what basis (based on which condition record, in which condition table) that free good was issued?
Technically speaking: Similar to KONV table for storing transaction data on pricing, is there a table for storing transaction data on free goods?
Thanks,
JuwinFind the table number of the key combination of customer / material . & you can extract free goods condition records from this table.
Search in SE11 with the table number. -
Free Goods Condition Records Extraction.
Hi All,
Is there any standard Report or a Table from which extraction of Free-Goods condition records can be done based on Sales org and Customer.
Thanks.hi,
this is not possible to get what need in SAP.
please create a Z report with the combination you need.
keep a selection screen as requried.
this might help you.
or
go to tables to find out.
regards,
baljia -
Dear Gurus,
Need ur help to resolve the problem i'm facing in my Free Goods Pricing.
I have used r100 condition type before the tax calculation with 55 and 28. I'm able to bring the net value to 0 but the tax is still calculated and the same is posted to the customers account. As the deal is free of charge the customer is just issued the goods and is not entitled to pay a single penny.
My Pricing
PR00
Freight
BP+Frgt
Excise
BPFrgtExcise
r100
Net Price
VAT
Net Price
Awaiting your recommendations
Rgds
Sureshi'm calculating the exicse in my procedure. In the SO the net value is shown as 0 but the tax is calculated. In the accounting document following are the entries...
Posting Key Description Value
01 Customer 701.76
50 Revenue 5,000.00-
50 Freight Recovery 230.00-
50 BED recovered sales 600.00-
50 ECes recovered sales 12.00-
50 SHECerecovered sales 6.00-
40 Deduction 5,848.00
50 AR VAT Payable - And 701.76-
What i require is that the customer payables should be Zero and that amount needs to the added to the total deduction amount.
Awaiting your valuable suggestions
Rgds
Suresh -
Free Goods Condition record usingT.Code VBN1
Hi all,
We are creating a free goods condition record using T.Code VBN1.
We want to ensure that main item & free goods items are only shipped out together. How do we enable this using delivery controls in T.Code VBN1.
Regards,
Tom.We are working with free goods in the sales order and to enable this we have done exclusive free goods config.Record for the same is maintained in T.code VBN1.
Now in the sales order we have 2 line items. First line item is the main item and the second is free goods item. Sometimes, only main item stock is available and no stock of free goods. In this case the main item gets delivered which should not happen.
We want to ensure that the main item and free goods item are delivered together on a date only when both the items are available. How do we enable this.
Hope this explains the issue. Look forward to your reply.
Tom. -
Return Item and Free goods check box in purchase order
Hi Guru:
I just got the question regarding the return item and free goods check box,my question is that if I check the free good check box,then the price of the matieral will be charged to zero,however,if I want to issue the return purchase order to the vendor,does I need to check the return box first and then issue the return order to the vendor? Then go to MIGO transaction to select the movement type 122 to return the goods,what's the whole precedure for returning the goods to the vendor,can anybody tell me,very appriated!Hi,
Retun to vendor through have two types....
One is you have Po created, vendor send the item in that few items have rejected so you need to return the item to vendor......
here in MIGo chose returrn to vendor selce the PO numbere.... system automaticaly take the movent type 122....
sencond type is Retun PO..... In Po while creting the PO tick the return indication..
If you do the GR system will pick 161mopvent type.. ( GR returns)...
REgards
anand -
Free Goods condition record nee to be maintained in decimals
Hi All,
Good morning
Here is my requirement.
We need to be maintained free goods condition record in decimals same need to be determined in the sales order.
As per the standard rounding qty taking but we requires decimals also.
If I give 0.200 Liter as free for 4.8 liters in VBN1 system not getting the free goods when I enter the order qty 4.8 liters.
If I give 0.500 liters as free for 5 liters system rounding the 0.500 liters freed godds as 1 liter but we require free goods need to be in liter with decimals.
Kindly help in this
Regards,
Murali.1) In Sales org.1 view of material master, any rounding profile is maintained
-->Not maintained
2) Whether the box "Rounding permitted" is ticked for your item category in VOV7
-->Not ticked
3) For your delivery item category in zeroVLP, the field "Rounding" should be blank
-->Blank
Regards,
Murali. -
Regarding Material Determination and free goods determination
Hi Gurus,
I understand the Material Determination to be substitution of a new material for the old one for any possible reasons such as sales Campaign,non availability etc.
Could anyone one explain the concept whether material determination and Free good determination can co-exist in a sales order ?
How to substitute by material determination procedure for a free good in a sales order?
Regards,
S.Ravi kumarHi.,
We can use material determination and free goods,as per my knowledge material determination takes first and to the swapped material free goods determiination takes place
Award points if helpful
Narayana -
Dear SAP Gurus,
I have configurde the Free Goods as Exclusive and accordingly kept the condition records. When I am creating Sales Order, I have given the first line item as 1482 and when I entered
, the second line item automaticaly vame with item category TANN. Everything is fine up to this. I have kept price in VK11 for the material 1482 and 1483 is the free material.
At the time of creating Sales Order, it giving the error as "Pricing error: Mandatory Condition ZPR1 is missing"
I could not find out any solution for this. Please help in finding the solution for this.
Thanks,
JansHi Jans
Your free goods configuration is something like buy 10 pens and get one pencil free
Free goods are picked by R100 condition type with requirement 55 and aternate base value formula 28 in the pricing procedure
Free goods are represented with item category TANN with pricing as B in VOV7 which measns 100 % discount
This means the price of the pencil is to be maintained as condition record in VK11 for the condition type ZPR1 (in your case) which will be picked by the system and nullifies it with 100 % discount
This is missing from your end (this is my guess only)
Without knowing the price of the second material 1483 how the system will give 100 % discount for it
Soln is
Maintain the condition record for the condition type ZPR1 in VK11 for the free material 1483
Hope this may help you
Regards
Raja -
In our pricing procedure we have R100 and NRAB condition types.In sales order we are giving free goods(Exclusive).Now in condition tab for the free goods line item the value is showing as followes
PR00- Rs 150
R100- Rs 150(-)
Net Value - 0
CST- 4.50
Net Value with Tax 4.50
Rounding Off 4.50(-)
Total value - 0
So for this line item Net Value is coming Rs 4.50(-) and Tax is Rs 4.50.
In header this value is adding or subtracting from the value of main line item and showing the final value.
So how can i make the net value and tax 0 for the free goods item, so that it will not affect the total value of the document.
Regards
JyotiHi Jyoti,
In this scenario you can use below pricing procedure.
Step 10- PR00.......................................................................100 Rs
Step 20 Gross Price..............................................................100 Rs
Step 30 CST (calculate on Step 20) From 20 to 20.................... 8 Rs
Step 40 Net Value( From 10 to 39)...........................................108 Rs
Step 50- R100 (From 40 to 40)..................................................-(108) Rs
Step 60 NRAB........................................................................
Step 70 DIFF..........................................................................
Total ................................................................................. 0 Rs.
I hope it will help. Please check and confirm
Thanks,
Raja
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