Gmail IMAP Labels Issue

So I'm pretty excited I now have IMAP enabled for my gmail account. However, I don't like the way Mail (or maybe it's gmail) handles sorting my email messages. The gmail labels at the bottom of the left hand panel of Mail show whenever I get a new message AND this message also shows up in my inbox for whatever email account it is in. So if I get two new email messages the badge icon in the dock shows four new messages, which I have to click on in both locations (Inbox and in the corresponding Label folder) to mark as read. I would prefer to use Mail to sort all of various email accounts into folders I set up under "On My Mac" rather than use the labels from gmail. I can't seem to remove the gmail accounts from showing up in the left hand panel of Mail, which would be ideal.

I figured it out. The labels have to have a [Gmail]/ prefix because I've configured that as the IMAP root.

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Z10 Issues with GMail Imap / Microsoft Active Exchange

Hi,
I have seen lots of posts coming in on here and on crackberry.com about issues with emails. But I couldn't find any posts on the issues that I am having.
Just purchased a new Z10, coming from a BB 9900.
I would like to setup my gmail account on here but I am getting unexpected results. I have tried many different ways, gmail, imap, Microsoft Exchange ActiveSync and pop3.
What I find different from everyone is that I have a bunch of filters set up that auto direct some emails away from the inbox and into labels (folders). So I know things have changed from the 9900, but the way it happened on there was that a new email would show up in my unified inbox on the BB whether or not it was filtered. Then after reading it, I would have to search for it because it wouldn't actually be stored in the inbox. Which I was fine with.
We'll have my email description setup as "Personal"
Issues that I am having:
Imap set up:
- When I go from hub to my "Personal" box, it is a duplicate of my inbox. Looks the same as my inbox in mail.google.com, all nice and dandy.
- Emails that go directly to my inbox show up nice and quick and give me a notification in the hub etc.. that an email has shown up.
- Now when I receive an email that is being filtered. Gmail.com has it right away in my labels. So I know it's there. I can wait the 15/30 minutes that is setup for the sync, but I never get a notification of the email. If I go to the folder (by clicking on the drop down by the email description) then it shows up there with the yellow mail saying that it's a new mail. But there still isn't a notification saying I got a new email.
So that's IMAP.
M$ Exchange ActiveSync set up:
- Initially, going straight to my personal box from the hub makes it look somewhat like what it did on my 9900. Inbox, and filtered messages all showing up in the default view.
- If I receive a NEW (not part of a conversation) message that is/is not being filtered it shows up in this default view and I get a notification in the hub.
- Once I read that email, then go back to the default view. IF it is a msg in the inbox, it disappears and the only way I can find it is by going to the drop down then to the Inbox. But this seems to be random, sometimes it stays, sometimes it disappears. Also, if it gets moved directly to the inbox and I get a reply to that message I don't get a notification for a new email.
- If the email is a filtered email, it stays in the default view.
- Now if I get an email that is part of a conversation to a filtered email, I don't get a notification that I have a new email, but if I go to it from the hub, it's marked as a yellow mail symbol stating that it is new. Read that email, it stays in the default view.
So that's M$ EAS.
Email:
*******@gmail.com, so not a Paid Account or anything, just a regular gmail account. IMAP settings turned on and setup.
Hub Settings:
Display Style: conversation
Display order: name, subject
display message count: on
display new message indicator: on
show filed messages: on
show sent messages: off
Download images automatically: off
delete message confirmation: off.
Oh when I tried the gmail setup I believe it just used the same settings as IMAP. Pop3. just a disaster, all my messages were brought in (sent/receieved) marked as unread. Won't even bother with Pop3.
I'm not sure if I'm doing something wrong with my setups, or that this is the way it is designed. I really don't want to have to check each folder everytime to see if have a new email. And I don't want to change my gmail setup so that nothing is filtered. I thought I had solved it with the M$ EAS but with the random moving of messages to other directories, it's a no go aswell.
If anyone has any ideas or suggestions for me it would be greatly appreciated.
Thanks.
Curtis

Hi,
I'm the author of the article linked to above. I appreciate the reference, but I don't think my article solves the OP's particular issues. To date, I've not found a way to enable notifications on new content in subfolders. I think this is a limitation in the BlackBerry 10 email client.
Since the paint is still wet on this OS, we can expect to see some improvements in forthcoming service releases. CalDAV for example is known by BlackBerry to be broken with Google Calendar. No ETA to fix at present. BlackBerry will have to address that, and soon.
I don't yet know if OS 10 is going to gain the traction the BlackBerry needs to survive in the market. If it does, I suspect we will see some third party email apps appearing in BlackBerry World in the future, with enhanced IMAP functionality. There's some precedent for this and we've seen similar happen on other mobile platforms. In any case, until BlackBerry does some email client rewrting, or an enterprising developer plugs the gap, I think the OP's niggle is going to remain. At the time of writing, BlackBerry World is showing a White Screen of Death. Figures.
One thing I'd urge all Google Apps users (especially of free accounts) to bear in mind is that Google will be pulling the plug on ActiveSync in the very near future. I've blogged about this in more detail, in a followup to my previously-mentioned post: Gmail + Google Apps on the BlackBerry Z10.
I hope this clarifies the position, even though the reality is less than satisfactory.
Rob

Mail 6.2 having issues with Gmail Imap

I have issues with Gmail IMAP online on mail 6. Restarting Mail helps getting new messages but soon become offline and cannot be reset. Read may post and tried what was discussed but yet could not find any firm answer. The problem seems started new after upgrade to osX10.8.3

Hey hikari07,
If your Gmail account cannot be added to the iPhone, it might be locked, try unlocking it.
https://www.google.com/accounts/DisplayUnlockCaptcha
-Jason

Known issues MOVING local folders to GMAIL (IMAP)

does anyone know if there are any known issues (such as you cannot move a folder and its subfolders) when moving mail from a ON MY MAC Local Folder up to GMAIL which i am accessing via IMAP?
i seem to be able to do this very easy with the right click option when mail is in an INBOX on IMAP but when i try and do this to get info from my MAC PRO into GMAIL (so i have access to it on all my devices) it seems to LEAVE a copy in the Local Folder on my mac and then sometimes the information does not seem to get all the way transferred so i have to go back in and grab the remaining (?) email and move it again or i am grabbing the duplicate email that is in two places and copying it over a second time.
basically, it seems like sometimes it moves it, sometimes it copies it (?) and sometimes it crashes out?
TIA for any help

oof. you are /really/ awesome.
so - how do i know whether i am copying or moving from Local Mail to GMail IMAP?
i mean, when i have a local folder or local folder with subfolders i am literally moving (like drag and dropping) either the parent folder or the subfolder (or when things get really hairy i am dragging and dropping the mail in the subfolders) from one folder in Local Mail ("On My Mac") to the GMail folder.
is this moving? copying?
it is uber confusing (which the right click functionality for mail in a /normal/ IMAP folder is not...)
you know what i mean? i mean, when i get in and have to manually move actual email when something crashes i don't really know if i am re-moving or re-copying mail that has already been transferred or if i am just moving mail that did not get transferred due to a crash.
ALSO, it seems like it /sometimes/ will - well, er, arg - i guess in most cases it is copying the mail since when i do this i am usually having to go back in and verify the emails NOT READ (for instance it will have a red 5 on it or a red 28 or whatever) and then i am doing a delete of the folders that were supposed to have been copied because i am guessing that if the numbers are the same in this instanc then everything has been moved.
BUT sometimes these numbers are not the same which is why i had to post and why things got really hairy over here...
THANKS

Gmail IMAP issue

When I delete email messages on my iPhone, the messages are moved from the Gmail server inbox and archived. However, I want the messages to stay in my inbox on my Gmail server.
My iPhone is configured for Gmail IMAP. I have tried every option for the Deleted Mailbox behavior, but my messages are always moved out of my inbox on my Gmail server. Can anyone suggest any settings that will allow my messages to stay in my server inbox when I delete them on my iPhone?

You can use Gmail IMAP with your iphone.
Ensure that you have followed the following steps: http://mail.google.com/support/bin/answer.py?hl=en&answer=77702
Or watch the video: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uQ22euWXYog
Regards,
Noah

Apple Mail vs. Gmail IMAP disagreeing counts

A friend has two iMacs (10.6.5), iPad & iPhone (iOS 4.2) recently switched to gmail for his primary email service.
The problem is that not all the devices “see” the same Sent, Drafts and Trash mailbox.
Working with other IMAP services, I never see issues like this, so I know this is a gmail specific issue - there’s a disconnect between the way Gmail organizes it’s IMAP mailboxes vs. the way the Apple Mail does.
For instance, when you configure Apple Mail for a gmail IMAP account, it assumes your Sent mailbox will be called “Sent Messages”. And on the gmail web side, a Label always gets created called “Sent Messages”. My experience is that without any intervention, when you send email, it shows up in Apple Mail in the proper “Sent” mailbox, but in gmail it shows up in “Sent Messages”, NOT gmail’s Sent mailbox.
For some reason, with a gmail account, the old trick of Mailboxes > Use this Mailbox for doesn’t work because the options are grayed out.
So, how I’ve improved this situation is to open up PropertyListEditor and edit com.apple.mail.plist. There is a key called ‘MailAccounts’ under which is an “item” representing the Gmail account. Underneath, there’s an entry for ‘SentMessagesMailboxName’. I’ve tried changing this to both “Sent Mail” or “[Gmail]/Sent Mail” and both work in the sense that any email sent from Apple Mail ends up in gmail’s Sent mailbox, and NOT in “Sent Messages”
Here’s where the mystery deepens.
In my friend’s situation, when I do this, when path is set to [Gmail]/Sent Mail, I see two Sent mailboxes
in Apple Mail, I see 886 messages in the Sent under ‘Mailboxes’, and 823 in ‘Sent Mail’ under GMAIL section
in gmail, the ‘Sent Mail’ mailbox has 651 items and there exists a “[Imap]/Sent Mail” mailbox which has 609 items
When I edit the plist and change the path with PropertyListEditor to just “Sent Mail”, Apple Mail only shows one Sent mailbox with 823 messages items, but is missing the message sent within the past couple days.
Any ideas how to make sense of this?

No real answer to your problem, but I can confirm the problem exists...I've been chasing it forever. Another issue (that is equally as perplexing) is that no matter how you configure deleted message behavior in Apple Mail, when you delete a message it NEVER shows up in the Gmail TRASH folder. If someone would just create a definitive guide for using Gmail and Apple Mail they could probably sell it.

Z10 not showing all emails in folders (imap + gmail imap)

Hi
My Z10 is not showing all the emails in my imap email accounts (inc gmail). e.g. my inbox has 20 messages but the z10 only shows 10 of them. Same issue applies on some other folders.
Issue also applies on gmail imap account but does not seem to occur on my exchange account.
It also only appears to be affecting emails that are approx 1 or 2 weeks ago in this month.
Please help!

Hello,
Please check carefully your settings for your GMail account, especially the portion concerning "Sync Timeframe" (if visible to you, it depends on the integration method).
Check carefully also how these are labeled on GMail...Gmail technically uses labels and not folders, and the BB must interpret the labels into folders. So if a stray label is applied to these items, then that may be why they are suppressed from view.
You can also try removing and re-integrating the problem account.
You can also try ringing up your mobile service provider for formal support and potential escalation to BlackBerry for enhanced formal support.
Good luck!
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Mail won't synch with Gmail IMAP

Same problem as so many other loyal Mac users on these forums...
New Macbook Pro 2013 running Mavericks 10.9.1 and Mail 7.1 (1827).
It's been synching fine with Gmail IMAP for months. Then two days ago, was no longer to synch incoming mail. I can still send Gmail fine. just won't receive new mail.
Yes, I checked my settings. They're fine.
I've spent hours on these forums looking up and trying the various home remedies: Repair Permissions, Take All Mail Offline/Online, Uncheck SHow All Mail Imap, nothing works.
Can we just get the %&*%&$ Mail to WORK?
What else can I do?

Mac Mail stopped synching my inbound GMail last evening. Was working fine for several months on 10.9.x. Non-GMail accounts worked okay. Connection Doctor was all green. Restarted Mail and the laptop a few times. Tried Safe Mode, repaired permissions and system disk.
There's a link to Google support at the bottom of the Mail > Preferences > Accounts window so I clicked it, poked around and found this troubleshooting suggestion on the Known Issues page a few minutes ago (link is below):
IMAP client stopped syncing mail from the server
If you are experiencing problems with your IMAP client, try changing the visibility of “All mail” and “Drafts” labels from the (GMail web) settings:
Click the gear icon in the upper-right and select Gmail settings on the top of any Gmail page.
Select the Labels tab.
Ensure that the "Show in IMAP" checkbox is selected for both "All mail" and "Drafts".
Neither of these were checked as I didn't want "All mail" sent down to my Mac. But changing these settings caused unsynced mail to be delivered. Permanent fix? Who knows? Thought I'd mention it though.
https://support.google.com/mail/known-issues/14973?hl=en&ref_topic=3394215

Gmail IMAP on Mac/Exchange on iPhone HELP!

Hi.
Hopefully someone can tell me my best option here. On my iPhone I have my Gmail account set to use the Exchange active sync...however if I try to use the settings I have in my phone for Mail.app the server just times out. Since the iPhone works fine I'm only going to talk about my Mac.
I'm running 10.8.2
When I first set it up using Preferences > Mail, Contacts, Calendars, I made sure that I cleared out any possible old keychain entries as I used to have this account set up as IMAP on my Mac. When I first set it up, it simply said that the server (m.google.com) was unavailable (I had that set as both the internal and external server). In looking at the ports, which were set to 443 and 80, I changed the 80 to 443...that at least got mail checking the server but then it just times out.
The main question is does anyone know how to set up GMail Exchange on Mail? I have a feeling the issue is getting the proper Internal and External server paths.
If you do you might be able to help....the problem is further complicated by the fact that I'm using Gmail to handle mail from my own domain...so its not [email protected] but [email protected]
Why the settings my phone uses aren't sufficient is beyond me...
Any assistance is greatly appreciated!
sparky

AceNeerav wrote:
True. And that doesn't help. It only messes things more. I guess Both Google and Apple want things their own respective ways and that's creating trouble for us.
yes, they do and yes, it does.
I don't have an iphone so don't know how things work there but here is how things work with Mail and gmail.
1. you mentioned something about suffix. it should be set to
[Gmail]
2. go to webmail gmail interface->settings->labs
and enable the "Advanced IMAP controls" lab. then go to settings->labels and remove the "ll Mail" folder from being offered from IMAP download. there is no reason to have it downloaded as all it will do is download everything the second time and eat up your hard drive space. you can also optionally do it with the Spam mailbox.
3. an important thing to understand is that gmail and mail create their own folders for several things and insist on using them by default.
Gmail default folders: Mail default Folders:
Sent Mail Sent Messages
Trash Deleted Messages
there is no way to force webmail gmail to use nondefault folders. but you can do it with Mail. i suggest you do that to keep things synchronized between webmail and Mail
select the "Sent Mail" folder in the IMAP section of gmail. then go to mailbox menu->use this mailbox for->sent
do the same with the "Trash" mailbox in the gmail section and set to use it for Trash.
after this you can delete Sent messages and Deleted messages mailboxes from the gmail IMAP section unless you want to keep looking at them for some reason.
The drafts mailbox is called the same both in Mail and gmail so you don't have to rename it but I suggest you choose the option not to keep drafts on the server. but that's up to you. same for the junk mailbox. I have the option NOT to keep junk mail on the server.
I had to do this one every mac I use to access gmail via Mail but it's all pretty sane and in sync now.
Neerav

IPod Touch + Gmail IMAP = Confusing

Hi,
So, how many people actually use Gmail IMAP with their iPod Touch's Mail.app? I've tried it out, and I've posted messages here about it, but it seems to be totally confusing and not make any sense. You can only MOVE not Copy messages on the iPod Touch, but Gmail works with a system of Labels that can apply to MULTIPLE messages. Gmail ONLY shows everything in threads, but the iPod Touch ONLY shows everything in a flat view with no option for threads.
As far as I can tell, even though the 2 can work together, they use different concepts that don't match up, ultimately ending in a totally confusing experience.

I find the iPod Touch Mail app a failure, especially in Gmail. I synched five Mail accounts to my Touch last month and went traveling. Invariably I had to use Safari (with a handy icon) and sign into Gmail rather than use Mail. At different times in the other accounts I could not receive mail but could send it or v.v.
And since the most recent upgrade to the Touch firmware (1.1.4) not only do I see no change or improvement but none of my SMTP email accounts work!
There has been chat about the 82.11g vs 82.11n technology on the Touch but I have no idea if that's the issue. Let's push for iPod Touch Skype!

Gmail IMAP *was* working with Apple Mail - days later it's stopped working.

Hi all,
I recently started my Gmail IMAP account over in Apple Mail and Mobile Mail in order to get it working properly across an iMac, iPhone and MBP. I followed Gmail's IMAP settings to the letter and the only thing I couldn't get working was for the Trash folder in Gmail's server to take the place of the Trash icon that Mail has. While Sent and Drafts were represented correctly once I did the "Use this Mailbox for..." thing, Trash never moved up there.
Turns out that when I've been deleting emails in Apple Mail, they haven't been deleting in the Gmail inbox. They just sit there, label free. In the meantime, the fact that the server Inbox is stuffed full of label-less emails isn't reflected in the other applications, and deleting an email in Apple Mail does not delete it from Mobile Mail. Similarly, mails I've moved in Apple Mail from the Inbox to the Gmail folders are not reflected in Mobile Mail, where they remain in the Inbox. Furthermore, on the server the mails appear to have the correct label for the folder I moved them to in Apple Mail, but on the server they are still in the Inbox.
I'm confused. The Gmail server inbox seems to be acting like All Mail now - in that I move something from the Inbox and into a Gmail folder using Apple Mail or Mobile Mail, but on the server they just stay in the Inbox and have a label added. They sit in several places at once. This is not what's supposed to happen!
Furthermore, now any emails I write in Apple Mail and Mobile Mail start saving drafts every few seconds then saving these as new emails in 'Drafts', and on the server saving them as multiple different versions of emails. If I send an email, I do not need to save every single variation every 10 seconds. Even if I don't send an email I don't need that. It wasn't doing this before, why has it started now?
I thought I'd got this all sorted but clearly I don't.
How do I achieve the following:
1) In Apple Mail and Mobile Mail, have an Inbox, Drafts, Sent and Trash box at the top, in which changes are reflected on the server and vice versa.
2) If I move an email in the above software from Inbox to a Gmail folder, the email on the server moves from Inbox to that folder, but remains in All Mail.
3) If I delete an email on the above software, it's moved from wherever it is to the Gmail Trash folder, where it's deleted after 30 days. It does NOT simply lose a label and remain in the Inbox or even in All Mail. If I delete something, I want it gone EVERYWHERE.
4) Don't save my Drafts every 10 seconds. Ever.
It can't be that hard to do this, can it?

Hmm, turns out my iMac Apple Mail has been resetting the Mailbox activity settings for some random reason which would explain the drafts problem. Wonder why?

BUG: Mail (GMAIL IMAP) no longer connects over ethernet, only wireless

I too was puzzled last night when I couldn't get my gmail account to go online. I did a lot of reading, and tried various things (to no avail), but ultimately decided it was just a configuration error, or combination of other programs running...or maybe even (as read in other posts) Google's servers. I found the server problem unlikely though, since I could also log in via the web interface.
Mysteriously, opening Mail on a separate MBP over either ethernet or wireless was 100% normal...as was the imap connection on my iPad via 3G or wireless...so what was causing my brand new MBAir to choke? Sleep on it, I said to myself.
Well here I am on day 2 of Mail refusing to connect. Connection doctor always shows 'green' next to connection status (Mail was able to connect to the internet), but red for both imap and smtp servers, with messages reading "Mail could not connect to this IMAP/SMTP server. Check your network connection and that you entered the correct information in Account preferences. Also verify the server supports SSL. If it does not, deselect the 'Use SSL' checkbox in the Advanced tab of Account preferences."
I've eliminated the server issue, because my MBP still opened Mail just fine while connected to my network here at home.
Then, just for fun, I decided to unplug my ethernet (which is attached via Apple's own USB Ethernet adapter), and turn on my wireless. Almost instantly, Mail popped to life on my MBAir, and started syncing with gmail/IMAP.
In the two months I have owned this MBAir, getting Mail to work over ethernet had never been a problem. My issues seemed to parallel the recent influx of problems reported with gmail & IMAP.
I still cannot get Mail to access gmail over the USB Ethernet Adapter. What gives, Apple? Anyone else experiencing these symptoms on these new MBAirs?
Model Name: MacBook Air
Boot ROM Version: MBA31.0061.B01
SMC Version (system): 1.66f54

Turns out I was a victim of my own [tight] security. I had a SOCKS proxy enabled on my Ethernet for when I take this laptop on the road...I used it to connect securely to my server back home. Obviously at home my SOCKS proxy was not connecting from within my private network. As soon as I removed the SOCKS proxy, voilá! GMAIL IMAP works perfectly over the USB Ethernet adapter once again.
I hope this serves as a reminder to thoroughly check your network settings before driving yourself mad!
Cheers!

IPhone and iPad iOS 5.1: Gmail IMAP attachments not downloading

I'm having an issue with Gmail (IMAP) not downloading attachments from myself! (I use Gmail to archive documents, etc). Same issue on my iPhone 4 and iPad 3, both iOS 5.1, using the default mail app with default "Gmail" account (IMAP) set up.
They *were* both working fine, then I erased both devices for a clean install. Set up the email accounts again, now none of my own attachments download on either device.
When I say not downloading, I see the attachment download box (dashed box with download arrow inside), and on pressing it, the attachment downloads (0 to XX kb), but then the download box just flashes back to showing the file size, and the attachments do not show. I keep pressing the download box but it flashes and nothing happens. Same with .jpg .png .doc .xls .pdf, etc.
BEFORE THE FORMAT:
All attachments downloaded correctly (as far as I can remember) before I had erased both devices.
NOW:
Attachments sent *from* me ([email protected]), via Gmail website, to me or anyone else, BEFORE formatting my iPad 3 and iPhone 4, do NOT download. However, if I then forward the email, including attachments, the attachments appear in the outgoing message preview! (so they're not corrupt)
Attachments sent *from* me ([email protected]), via Gmail website, to me or anyone else, AFTER formatting my iPad 3 and iPhone 4, DO download and correctly appear in the email.
Attachments sent *from* me ([email protected]), via iPhone/iPad, to me or anyone else, any time BEFORE or AFTER formatting my iPad 3 and iPhone 4, appear correctly.
Attachments sent from anyone else, *to* me ([email protected]), always appear correctly.
On a friend's iPhone 3G (iOS 4.2.1), adding my gmail account using the default "Gmail" setting (IMAP) works fine - all attachments download and show!
On a friend's iPhone 4 (iOS 5.1), adding my gmail account using the default "Gmail" setting (IMAP) replicates my problem - all attachments from me (sent before the format) do not download. (So it's not specific to my own devices!)
Gmail Exchange server (m.google.com) works fine: all attachements download and show correctly. Also no problem using Thunderbird IMAP or the Gmail web interface.
So it looks like it might be a problem with iOS 5.1, however it all seemed to be working fine before I did the erase/format... and new emails sent from me always appear correctly... actually that might explain why it was working before (as I was always downloading new emails, and not looking at archives).
So the only other thing that might have changed is some IMAP server setting? Could the headers or mail flags have changed somehow for older emails??
Any thoughts? :-/

I reproduced this problem over the weekend, on friends' iPhones (all running iOS 5.1). Opening their Gmail sent folder and trying to view an attachment sent from a while back (basically one that hasn't already been cached by the Mail app) failed to display. Exactly the same problem - download arrow flashes and attachement won't show / can't be opened.
I'm in the UK, but not sure if that affects anything.
Thinking this might be a bug in the Mail app in iOS 5.1, as earlier versions work fine.

Should I give up on Gmail IMAP?

Can somebody help me feedback about my Gmail IMAP problem, please?
I switched from pop to imap in November and as a first step successfully uploaded my ~2GB of old pop messages up to gmail to have everything in sync. I did this by copying the old folders across into the gmail folder and as far as I can tell this worked fine - all messages are there in gmail with correct labels.
I also set up gmail just right, I think, with the Sent, Trash and Draft folders of Mail.app mapped correctly to their gmail counterparts.
So what's my problem, you may ask? Well, I find with this set-up, Mail.app has become so slow and dangerously unreliable that I just cannot work with it. As soon as I am online or open a folder, Mail starts very lengthy caching and synching processes that seem to near freeze all action. For example, opening folders can take forever and I cannot use Mail Act-on properly as it just takes waaaaayyy to long.
But what's worse, although I have the option checked to download full messages and attachments, because I want to have copies for offline viewing, this doesn't work properly! All old messages should have still been on my mac in the first place, as I copied them from there, but they are not. Many are blank or garbled, when they appear fine in Gmail.
Finally, it seems that the data tranfer/caching/synching old folders that Mail.app attempts as soon as I go online somehow buggers up Gmail remotely, as when I have Mail running online, I often have problems receiving messages - they will arrive with lags of several hours, which is a total dealbreaker for me.
I tried switching to not downloading messages but it didn't even make a difference
My question is now, can anybody think of a way to solve my problems and still use IMAP, or should I just revert to pop and manually update what I have read and keep my sent messages in sync?
I probably use gmail's web interface for most reading and quick writing, but absolutely want to keep offline copies and use mail for the great ical and address book integration and for emailing with ease from apps like iPhoto and Journler.
Am really gutted that IMAP doesn't seem to be working out for me and would be very grateful for any tips.
Many thanks,
Nora

Hi there,
Interesting to read that you have a Rule to move Mail into 'All Mail'...
This is not necessary, 'All Mail' contains a 'copy' of every message, including Sent, and every message in your Folders, so you are moving a message into a folder that already contains a copy of that message (if I am guessing correctly).
A quick theory (as an example), if you have 500 sent messages and 250 in your Inbox and Folders, All Mail will contain 750 messages - copies of your 500 sent and 250 received Mail). Again, this is so Google can have 'Labels' instead of Folders on the Web side of Gmail.
Try stopping this Rule from moving messages to All Mail and see if that helps with your syncing...
Regarding your post before the last one, if you have 20,000 sent message alone, my best guess (in ideal situations) is it would take *at least* 3 or 4 days to successfully Sync with Gmail's servers...
Have you thought about Archiving your messages, for instance by year? I say this because syncing 20,000 messages will take an awfully long time, no matter how fast your internet connection is or how streamlined your database is. Also, do you actually need access to 20,000 messages at the click of a mouse? By archiving you can save Disk space and have a faster sync... a little link here:
http://www.it-enquirer.com/main/ite/more/archive_email/
It isn't a serious problem in OS X Mail with IMAP, because every message is a small file (you can see them in ~/Library/Mail) so there is no chance of the database becoming corrupt so badly that your messages are lost... unlike Outlook which stores EVERYTHING in one file (all your eggs in one basket, anyone?) and I have had that happen to clients. Once Outlook decides it cannot read a PST file, that is pretty much the end of the road for your messages!
I hope this helps.
Regards,
Jamie

Rules problem and sluggishness in Gmail IMAP

I just plugged in my Gmail IMAP settings into Mail, and it is not listening to rules set to move all of my sent mail into a sent folder (into either the "on my mac" or the "gray globe" folders). The mail from me just sits obstinately in the "all mail" or "Inbox" folder.
Also, every time I select an IMAP folder, it decides it gives me the little piechart time indicator symbol and I have to wait 20-30 seconds to see my messages.
Ideas?

First of all, for the issue w/ the sent/junk/trash/drafts folder - if you select any of those folders in the sidebar, then go to the 'Mailbox' menu and select 'use this mailbox for' - you can manually set those folders to be used as the default folders - so in turn no need to use the rules. -The inbox however should store all incoming messages automatically.
One issue that I need to point out is that for some reason Gmail is placing all the chat logs from Google Talk into your 'all mail' folder...
Now why Gmail IMAP is so horribly slow compared to most other IMAP services, I honestly don't have a clue, and I must add I'm having the exact same problem.

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