Going to take a Plunge And Get 9700 Pro
As much as it hurts my wallet. I want to get it. Why bother upgrading your system if not going to get one of the best Video cards to go with it.
Read a few problems with these. But looks like things are fine now.
OH the inhumanity of it all. ;(
Yes. There is some sort of a bios issue when using and ATI 9700 Pro AGP Card with the K7N2 (MSI 6570) Motherboard. It is fine if you use bios ver 3.3. If you upgrade your bios to 3.4 that is when you will have problems. The reason that I say this is that i built 2 Computer systems exactly the same. Except the only diffrence was the bios ver. When the system would POST some times i could get the video to work. When i would reboot the computer or turn it on then some times no video would come up. (this was before downgrading to 3.3) I thought it was memory so i had tryied swaping out DDR chips and that didn't work. Both systems are using AMD XP 2600+ cpu's. 512 MB DDR 333mhz 2.5 cas (generic). and of course ATI 9700 PRO 128 MB AGP card. When MSI updated the bios from 3.3 to 3.4 they messed somthing up in the process. MAKE SURE YOU KNOW WHAT YOU ARE DOING BEFORE UPGRADING YOUR BIOS. After updating the bios i have not had any video issues since.
Enjoy
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