HCM Forms

Hi Experts,
1) Can you please explain what are the benefits of using HCM forms over Interactive adobe forms developed using ABAP
    workbench or Netweaver Developer Studio?
2) When Adobe forms can be independently desinged and developed, why do we need HCM Froms? The interactive forms
    developed using ALD can be dirtectly plugged in to the workflows. How exactly will HCM form bring benefits to the table?
    Please Explain.
2) What all changed in EHP3 and EHP4 and what is their Impact on WebDynoproJava based applications in the ESS MSS
    business package?
3) Will ESS MSS EhP4 have all the applications in web dynpro ABAP only or will still continue to have the Java stack supported
    by SAP? If java stack is supported, then what will be the kind of impact of developing/ customizing the ESS MSS applications
    using web dynpro java?
Thanks and Regards,
Mahantesh

Hi,
you can validate the Business functions according to the EHPs from the below link
See SAP Note 1052470.
For information about the business functions of SAP ERP, see SAP Service Marketplace (service.sap.com/erp-ehp) and SAP Help Portal (help.sap.com) under SAP ERP Central Component ->number of the enhancement package-> SAP Library Business Function Sets and Business Functions
these SAP help also give you more information
http://help.sap.com/erp2005_ehp_04/helpdata/EN/d9/a64d4bbd3d4856bbde2695e2fcfb4c/content.htm
http://www.cogentibs.com/pdf/cogsap08/HRForms.pdf
http://help.sap.com/saphelp_erp2005/helpdata/en/42/f273461e5132c3e10000000a1553f6/content.htm
regards
nag

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