HDD Bad Sectors question...

It happened like 3 months ago I had to shut down (via force shutdown i.e. holding the power button for over 3 seconds) my Mac after the system became un responsive during an empty trash operation. Then while running apple software update Windows (running Windows via bootcamp) it also locked up (it like completely froze no mouse movement at all). I would like to know if that created a bad sector in my HDD by doing this forced shutdown procedure. I reinstalled Mac OS X just to avoid any problems down the road after the forced shutdown.
Again the question is: Does a forced shutdown can create a bad hard drive sector?
Also, is there a way to recover bad HDD sectors? Disk Utility perhaps?
Thank You for your time.

Kappy wrote:
Snow Leopard's installer is smart. If a system is already present the installer does not erase the drive but installs a fresh system, moves all your stuff into the new system then removes the old one. To erase the drive you must first run Disk Utility from the installer's Utilities menu and use it to erase the drive.
The hard drive and the fans are both starting up at the same time. You may be hearing the fans and not the drive. If you're sure it's the drive making the noise but you don't hear more noise all the time, then it may be nothing. If you are hearing a sort of chirping noise coming from the drive that could be a sign of mechanical failure.
When you open Disk Utility and select your drive's main entry in the sidebar you will get the SMART status reported in the DU status area. If it doesn't say "verified' then the drive is failing. You can also run hardware diagnostics to check:
How to run hardware diagnostics for an Intel Mac
Boot from your original OS X Installer Disc One that came with your computer. After the chime press and hold down the "D" key until the diagnostic screen appears. Run the extended tests for a minimum of two or three hours. If any error messages appear note them down as you will need to report them to the service tech when you take the computer in for repair.
Some "common" error indicators:
SNS - sensor error
MEM - memory error
HDD - hard disk drive error
MOT - fan error
Just to clear myself up. When I clicked the "erase" (in Disk Utility) button when I reinstalled OSX 3 months ago on my MacBook Pro, it said in the Disk Utility Progress bar un-mounting image, it took like two minutes. Then I went to install OSX and I had to reinstall iLife, and the rest of my third party apps, so that's why I think I did a clean reinstall.
However, this question of bad sectors came to be because one close friend of mine told me that I damaged my HDD by doing the hard shutdown method (Power button 3-second hold), which of course concerned me. I think I might go ahead and do the zero out disk option when I do reinstall OSX again in the future. As far as disk utility goes, it says that my SMART status is "veryfied" I did also used OnyX SMART status veryfication and it turned out to be ok. I think that I am best off keep using my MacBook Pro until it requires a new OS reinstall or an HDD failure.

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    Hard Disk Heads,16
    Hard Disk Sectors,63
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    Transport Version,SATA Rev 2.6
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    Host Protected Area,Supported
    Advanced Power Management,"Supported, Disabled"
    Extended Power Management,"Supported, Enabled"
    Power Up In Standby,Supported
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    Device Configuration Overlay,Supported
    IORDY Support,Supported
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    NOP Command,Supported
    Trusted Computing,Not supported
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    NV Cache Size,Not supported
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    TRIM Command,Not supported
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    Self Test Execution Status,Successfully Completed
    Total Time To Complete Off-line Data Collection,4444 seconds
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    Abort/restart Off-line By Host,Not supported
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    Error Logging Capability,Supported
    Short Self-test Estimated Time,1 minutes
    Extended Self-test Estimated Time,74 minutes
    Last Short Self-test Result,Never Started
    Last Short Self-test Date,Never Started
    Last Extended Self-test Result,Never Started
    Last Extended Self-test Date,Never Started
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    Security Enhanced Erase Time,Not supported
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    Security Locked,No
    Security Frozen,Yes
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    S-ATA I Signaling Speed (1.5 Gps),Supported
    S-ATA II Signaling Speed (3 Gps),Supported
    S-ATA Gen3 Signaling Speed (6 Gps),Supported
    Receipt Of Power Management Requests From Host,Supported
    PHY Event Counters,Supported
    Non-Zero Buffer Offsets In DMA Setup FIS,"Supported, Disabled"
    DMA Setup Auto-Activate Optimization,"Supported, Disabled"
    Device Initiating Interface Power Management,"Supported, Disabled"
    In-Order Data Delivery,"Supported, Disabled"
    Asynchronous Notification,Not supported
    Software Settings Preservation,"Supported, Enabled"
    Native Command Queuing (NCQ),Supported
    Queue Length,32
    Disk Information
    Disk Family,Deskstar 7K1000.D
    Form Factor,"3.5"" "
    Capacity,"500 GB (500 x 1,000,000,000 bytes)"
    Number Of Disks,1
    Number Of Heads,1
    Rotational Speed,7200 RPM
    Rotation Time,8.33 ms
    Average Rotational Latency,4.17 ms
    Disk Interface,Serial-ATA/600
    Buffer-Host Max. Rate,600 MB/seconds
    Buffer Size,32768 KB
    Drive Ready Time (typical),? seconds
    Average Seek Time,? ms
    Track To Track Seek Time,? ms
    Full Stroke Seek Time,? ms
    Width,101.6 mm (4.0 inch)
    Depth,147.0 mm (5.8 inch)
    Height,26.1 mm (1.0 inch)
    Weight,450 grams (1.0 pounds)
    Required power for spinup,"3,300 mA"
    Power required (seek),7.0 W
    Power required (idle),5.0 W
    Power required (standby),2.0 W
    Manufacturer,Hitachi Global Storage Technologies
    Manufacturer Website,http://www.hgst.com

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